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Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:27 pm
by TigersGameDayFan
Things are straightened out now.....alot of misunderstandings and things are good.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:42 pm
by The Riepo Man
Depending on how heated the argument was, then yes I believe the coach made the right decision. The coach has every right to do what he did and if they argument violated team rules then he obviously has a reason to do so. However kicking the kid off the team seems too much of a punishment in my opinion. If the parents have a problem, which most would, then they should go to the AD.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:45 pm
by biggdowgg
was the 21 year old, a coach?



my gues is, you play by the coaches rules...right or wrong, he has the last say.


sad to se a kid get booted from his senior year,,,,,and you say he was the best player in the gym?...WOW!

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:49 pm
by The Riepo Man
I can see this being used by fans if the Tigers perform poorly throughout the season

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:51 pm
by biggdowgg
Ironton will be a handfull, I don't see one player changing that.

I wil also be surprised if the kid is kept of the team.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:03 pm
by qualified101
two things.

1. why was there a 21 year old at a high school open gym?

2. if it truly was an open gym then how can a coach say anything? was this a day the coach could have contact with said player or were those used up? if those days were used up, then could this be a ohsaa rules violation?

lots of ways this could go.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:17 pm
by purpleblood1
Coaches can be at open gym, this isn't college. If it's like Chesapeake was, open gym is just that open gym and old players come in and play with current players.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:24 pm
by Peake
LOL, this is not going to get heated. Coach Lafon is a great coach and a great person. No doubt in my mind that whomever the player was, was in the wrong.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:29 pm
by theassassin
my guess is there is probably more to the story than just this one time incident.

older guys come to open gyms most places.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:58 pm
by IHSTiger81
If it's who I think it is, this for sure has not been the first time. Just the last. And if it's who I think it is, he's been given more than one chance the last couple of years.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:52 pm
by qualified101
PurpleBlood1 wrote:Coaches can be at open gym, this isn't college.

dont think so, otherwise it could be considered an organized event.
not if the contact days are used up.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:13 am
by WitnessProtection
As I understand the rules, there is no difference between a coach being a weight room supervisor or "running" open gym. Most districts give coaches supplemental contracts to run open gym anyway. It's not considered a contact day as long as the coach is not providing any instruction.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:47 am
by TAR HEEL FAN44
From my understaning of the rules, As long as the coach did not kick me out of open gym...and cut after November 10th...then the coach is Ok...but if he kick me out of open gym and told him not to come back, he just broke the rules by OHSAA. By the rules any kid can play in open gym and the coach can not coach in OPEN GYM. That is from my understanding of the rules by the OHSAA.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:26 am
by IHSTiger81
From the story I hear, the student in question was NOT told he would not be playing this year. He did try out and did get cut. He got into arguments with coaches at open gym, even wanting to fight them..from what I hear. There's obviously more to the story than the first post presents.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:48 am
by play ball
(Speaking in general) Kids needs to be held accountable for their actions. Period. It is b/c of the obscene lack of accountability that kids continue to act out and to "push the envelope".

I do not know the specifics of the situation which caused the kid to be cut from the team. But...I would bet my next paycheck that the offense had to be pretty bad or this kid would be a member of Fighting Tiger basketball team. I have also heard of other athletically good kids being cut from their high school team b/c of attitute. I, for one, hope the trend continues.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:25 am
by alabama mike
qualified101 wrote:two things.

1. why was there a 21 year old at a high school open gym?

2. if it truly was an open gym then how can a coach say anything? was this a day the coach could have contact with said player or were those used up? if those days were used up, then could this be a ohsaa rules violation?

lots of ways this could go.


I was wondering the same things?

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:29 am
by Winchell
You cannot restrict, regardless of age, anyone from playing in open gym. If a 35 year old showed up and wanted to play, they would have to be allowed to do so. Secondly, if I am a Head Coach, I can be present at open gym. However, no "coaching" can go on. The rule is open as such to give the coach present the ability to break up scuffles etc... This, in my interpretation, is not considered "contact".

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:35 am
by Raiderball
Good explanation Winchell.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:52 pm
by osu 77
It sounds like the Ironton Basketball Coaches are going to have discipline on their teams.

Re: Is it right to kick a player off a team for this reason..

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:12 pm
by allsport12
The way I see it a coach that is supervising open gym can restrict anyone from coming to the event if that person has exhibited poor behavior. Example, (15 or 50 years of age) Cant keep the language in check or is violent or malicious towards anyone then the coach may ask them not to return.