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i am going to take the pointers in this one.Last year match was not close with pointers wining by 30 or something but this is a new year and south point lost some talent but has had some people step up so far this year. Anyone know if south webster is improved

pointers win by 16

Pointers by 7,SW is much improved and look at the schedule they've played.I believe this will be a good matchup and SW will slow it down and keep it low scoring.Close throughout and I think the Pointers pull away late in 4th.

South Point has been playing some solid ball here in the early going, I look for that trend to continue in this one. Although I did read on here a couple weeks ago that SW played Norm's Oak Hill squad pretty close for 3 quarters or so, so I dont believe this will be a blow out like last season.

South Point 66
South Webster 54

How about the Jeeps will lead at half time and then blow it in the second half. At 'burg they were switing defenses and running plays in the first half,and halftime ran a zone the whole time and looked like they were just running down and jacking up shots? Eh, what do I know? Keep working hard Jeeps, just play like you do in the first half and you can pull this one out. GO JEEPS!

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You're about right on the Jeeps leading at the half. SP always plays sluggish the first half and will usually come back and win! Points by 12.

any updates on this game

South Point wins. Not sure of the score

good jobs guys on getting the victory tonight.Any have stats for the game

moves their record to 4-1 on the year

I heard 54- 39 as the final

It was a 20 point lead for the Pointers a time or two in the fourth quarter. 15 point lead at the half for the Pointers. Half way through the 3rd period Webster was down between14 and 16 points and the subs began entering the game. I dont think the Scott kid played a single minute in the fourth, if he did it was the very beginning. 6 minutes to go all the starters but 1 was out of the game. You sit up in the stands and scratch your head!!!!! The offense is absolutely horrible!! If thats the best plays they can come up with then Webster is in trouble! No guard penatration, no one left in the posts to rebound and every kid on the team acts like they are afraid to shoot when they are wide open! I am not the only one wondering but alot of parents are wondering what is going on. I have heard a couple of kids have quit already, some are not showing up to practice!! Doesnt sound like a solid basketball program to me!!! As a alum, could someone please explain what is happening to the Basketball program at Webster! I will quit gripping if someone can actually prove to me that Webster should be 0-5!!!!!!!!!

something gonna have to change, too much talent to be 0-5

Are you guys serious?

Too much talent??? Listen, this Webster team is much improved from last year and they have far exceeded my expectations. I honestly looked at our schedule before the season started and could not pinpoint one game that I could say we would be the favorite to win. After seeing the improvements, I think there will be several chances to pick up some wins but lets not get carried away. We are very young, undersized in every game, and have no true ball handlers, shooters, passers or post threats. What player do we have that could start without a doubt for Portsmouth, Oak Hill, or Wheelersburg (I didn't see Minford or SP)? Which of these teams do you guys think we should have dominated instead of getting beat by 10+ points?
I think parents need to give this team the respect they deserve for improving in the off-season and playing competitive team basketball instead of blaming the coach for the losses.
Scoutteam08, lets try this instead. Can you prove to me that Webster should have won a game so far? What team was less talented than us? How would you have beaten them?(Not a rhetorical question. I'm really wondering since I didn't see the SP or Minford games)

SP wins in a good game tonight

Kratzenberg with 17 points

Prater, and both Taylor boys with 10 a piece

Pressbreaker, By questioning these kids talent, saying they have exceeded your expectations, questioning which of these kids could start for any of the teams they have faced, saying they have no ball handlers, no shooters, no passers and no post players, my friend where is your respect? By the sounds of things you had them getting blowed out the gym by 40 every night they stepped out on the floor! Thats not respect! Thats saying that Webster has a bunch of kids on a basketball team that dont know how to play the game!

As far as which games they should have won, thats really hard to say because they were never given the chance. It was taken out of their hands! But to answer your question, I am gonna go with Minford, Burg and Oak Hill. Oak Hill up by 4 at half, yes a close game, could go either way. Come out at half and went away from everything you did in the first half and get beat more than 20. Minford go in at half by 8 come out second half same as before change everything you did in the first half beat somewhere around 10. Burg go in at half up by 6 come out change everything AGAIN opposite from the first have and get beat by 16! Now thats three games that you are leading and have the momentum at half and then get beat by more than twenty in the 2nd half. Thats because Webster has no talent! I dont think so! The game has been taken out of the kids hands! I could understand if they are down by 8 or so at half and then get beat by 16 or more! Then I will have to say that we didnt have the tallent to compete! But to be winning and competing the first half and then getting blowed out in the second half because you totally go away from what got you there in the first half, thats is not the players fault! Everyone sees it! Not just me!

I will even mention some about the JV team! They are 2-3 now. Three losses are Oak Hill by a point, Burg by a point, and South Point by 8 points! Oak Hill is big and slow! What do the coach do? Slows the game down in the second half, instead of using the speed to beat them up and down the floor to wear them down and thats a game they should have won by more than 10!! Burg same thing, in overtime you substitute with 2 minutes left and your tied. You take two of the better defensive players out and Burg gets 2 three pointers! What was the point! They werent tired, they were into the game playing well! Both kids came to the bench with their hands out as if they were asking, "why you taking me out?" I am sorry but it makes everyone in the stands that are watching and paying attention to the game wonder what is going on with Webster basketball.
So if giving respect to the kids is by saying that they are not talented, they couldnt start for any other team they play against and I should feel that these kids geating blowed out every game is exceptable, then I am sorry! They wont get that respect from me! I will continue with my respect for those kids by saying there is some talent in webster and they are out there playing their hind ends off everynight for Webster and I am very proud of them for that!!!!! Their talents are not allowed to shine!!!
Keep your heads up webster basketball, because there are alot folks up in the stands that believe in you!!!! Thats my respect!!!

Scoutteam08 wrote:As far as which games they should have won, thats really hard to say because they were never given the chance. It was taken out of their hands! But to answer your question, I am gonna go with Minford, Burg and Oak Hill. Oak Hill up by 4 at half, yes a close game, could go either way. Come out at half and went away from everything you did in the first half and get beat more than 20. Minford go in at half by 8 come out second half same as before change everything you did in the first half beat somewhere around 10. Burg go in at half up by 6 come out change everything AGAIN opposite from the first have and get beat by 16! Now thats three games that you are leading and have the momentum at half and then get beat by more than twenty in the 2nd half. Thats because Webster has no talent! I dont think so! The game has been taken out of the kids hands! I could understand if they are down by 8 or so at half and then get beat by 16 or more! Then I will have to say that we didnt have the tallent to compete! But to be winning and competing the first half and then getting blowed out in the second half because you totally go away from what got you there in the first half, thats is not the players fault! Everyone sees it! Not just me!

Finally someone else sees this. They seem to go away from what is working in the first half and try something new in the second. There wasn't an excuse last night, as they played the same in both halves. But I would think you would change the gameplan if you were down, and not when you're up...

Like I have said in another thread, I am not the coach but merely a spectator. So who am I to point out what I see?

Hey I'm just trying to add some perspective from a non-parent point of view. I give the team respect in that they have improved greatly from last season and are playing hard competitive basketball. To say that the kids are more talented than what they really are and that losing is the coach's fault is not giving the team respect. You say "everyone in the stands" is wondering what is going on, but the only people I talk to (who are not parents) understand there is a logical reason why we are 0-5. I am encouraged by our JV team and the fact that our varsity is very young. I can see some of the varsity guys becoming good players in the next couple of years, but the facts are that we are smaller and less talented than most of the teams on our schedule.
The fact that a team wins the first quarter of a ballgame doesn't make them the better team. In fact, losing in the second half is more often a sign of inexperience than of poor coaching. From watching most of the games that you are referencing, I can honestly say that turnovers, rebounding, and defensive mistakes are the reason why we have lost.
Oak Hill wore us down with their size and probably outrebounded us 4-1 in the second half. Young teams tend to lose the defensive concentration that they play with in the first half. Also, Scott went down with an injury right at the start of Oak Hill's 5 minute run in the third quarter, causing us to turn the ball over probably 7 times in 10 possessions. Guess the coach probably caused that too though right?
At Wheelersburg, basically the same thing happened with Stegman wearing our defense down and outrebounding us. Wheelersburg came out of the locker room with a different attitude and we didn't make the shots that we did in the first half(I was impressed with Richardson's shooting in the first half).
I don't mean to sound critical of the players. They have shown that they want to improve and have potential to be good in a year or two. I love that we are competing with some of the toughest teams on our schedule, I just think the talent is either absent or way too young to pull off many upsets. Again, I am not trying to defend the coach, I'm just trying to add a different perspective from the parents who you apparently sit beside at the games. Let the guy develop some of the young talent and see what he does in the next year or two and then make your judement.

Pressbreaker wrote:Hey I'm just trying to add some perspective from a non-parent point of view. I give the team respect in that they have improved greatly from last season and are playing hard competitive basketball. To say that the kids are more talented than what they really are and that losing is the coach's fault is not giving the team respect. You say "everyone in the stands" is wondering what is going on, but the only people I talk to (who are not parents) understand there is a logical reason why we are 0-5. I am encouraged by our JV team and the fact that our varsity is very young. I can see some of the varsity guys becoming good players in the next couple of years, but the facts are that we are smaller and less talented than most of the teams on our schedule.
The fact that a team wins the first quarter of a ballgame doesn't make them the better team. In fact, losing in the second half is more often a sign of inexperience than of poor coaching. From watching most of the games that you are referencing, I can honestly say that turnovers, rebounding, and defensive mistakes are the reason why we have lost.
Oak Hill wore us down with their size and probably outrebounded us 4-1 in the second half. Young teams tend to lose the defensive concentration that they play with in the first half. Also, Scott went down with an injury right at the start of Oak Hill's 5 minute run in the third quarter, causing us to turn the ball over probably 7 times in 10 possessions. Guess the coach probably caused that too though right?
At Wheelersburg, basically the same thing happened with Stegman wearing our defense down and outrebounding us. Wheelersburg came out of the locker room with a different attitude and we didn't make the shots that we did in the first half(I was impressed with Richardson's shooting in the first half).
I don't mean to sound critical of the players. They have shown that they want to improve and have potential to be good in a year or two. I love that we are competing with some of the toughest teams on our schedule, I just think the talent is either absent or way too young to pull off many upsets. Again, I am not trying to defend the coach, I'm just trying to add a different perspective from the parents who you apparently sit beside at the games. Let the guy develop some of the young talent and see what he does in the next year or two and then make your judement.

I can see where you are coming from, but I am not a parent either. The defense I am going to blame on the coach. Why run a zone the whole second half when it obviously wasn't working. I just ask why go away from what works and try something new?

Scoutteam08 wrote:Pressbreaker, By questioning these kids talent, saying they have exceeded your expectations, questioning which of these kids could start for any of the teams they have faced, saying they have no ball handlers, no shooters, no passers and no post players, my friend where is your respect? By the sounds of things you had them getting blowed out the gym by 40 every night they stepped out on the floor! Thats not respect! Thats saying that Webster has a bunch of kids on a basketball team that dont know how to play the game!

As far as which games they should have won, thats really hard to say because they were never given the chance. It was taken out of their hands! But to answer your question, I am gonna go with Minford, Burg and Oak Hill. Oak Hill up by 4 at half, yes a close game, could go either way. Come out at half and went away from everything you did in the first half and get beat more than 20. Minford go in at half by 8 come out second half same as before change everything you did in the first half beat somewhere around 10. Burg go in at half up by 6 come out change everything AGAIN opposite from the first have and get beat by 16! Now thats three games that you are leading and have the momentum at half and then get beat by more than twenty in the 2nd half. Thats because Webster has no talent! I dont think so! The game has been taken out of the kids hands! I could understand if they are down by 8 or so at half and then get beat by 16 or more! Then I will have to say that we didnt have the tallent to compete! But to be winning and competing the first half and then getting blowed out in the second half because you totally go away from what got you there in the first half, thats is not the players fault! Everyone sees it! Not just me!

I will even mention some about the JV team! They are 2-3 now. Three losses are Oak Hill by a point, Burg by a point, and South Point by 8 points! Oak Hill is big and slow! What do the coach do? Slows the game down in the second half, instead of using the speed to beat them up and down the floor to wear them down and thats a game they should have won by more than 10!! Burg same thing, in overtime you substitute with 2 minutes left and your tied. You take two of the better defensive players out and Burg gets 2 three pointers! What was the point! They werent tired, they were into the game playing well! Both kids came to the bench with their hands out as if they were asking, "why you taking me out?" I am sorry but it makes everyone in the stands that are watching and paying attention to the game wonder what is going on with Webster basketball.
So if giving respect to the kids is by saying that they are not talented, they couldnt start for any other team they play against and I should feel that these kids geating blowed out every game is exceptable, then I am sorry! They wont get that respect from me! I will continue with my respect for those kids by saying there is some talent in webster and they are out there playing their hind ends off everynight for Webster and I am very proud of them for that!!!!! Their talents are not allowed to shine!!!
Keep your heads up webster basketball, because there are alot folks up in the stands that believe in you!!!! Thats my respect!!!

Did you ever think maybe the these opposing teams made the necessary ajustments at halftime to come out and get it turned around in the 2ns half and may not be all Webster's fault.....Give these other teams some credit also.

I hope the South Point made it home with no problems. Very scarey night to be out driving kids on a bus. Keep your heads up Jeeps!!! We are with you all the way!