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Maybe there isn't enough good ones to go around.

It really is based on each and every assigner i would say. If the assigner is an active official, maybe he becomes friends with other chapter's officials and they trade off. I'll work a marquee matchup for you and you guys can work for me.

I think ALL assigners should be retired officals. You are never going to eliminate politics unless you go to a "draw" system.

I think all crews should draw a number in the blind. The schedule is made up before the draw and each game is assigned a number. Once the schedule is done, each crew draws a number out of a hat. Then all games are assigned. No politics, just luck of the draw. Maybe they are already done this way? I doubt it, but maybe.

You have to be able to drink with each assigner!!

Assigners have a tough job. In the SOC they don't want guys from the Portsmouth Chapter officiating schools they may work in or graduated from. Also spreading out the good officials is tough because there are not a lot of good officials. The assigner, I am sure, has friends from other chapters, so it makes sense to bring them in so no schools will consider the officials to be homers. I don't know of a right and wrong way of assigning games, one thing is for sure, I wouldn't want the job.

The T.V.C. will never have an assigner because then they would have to say it's about the kids and not the adults who are still living though there kids or the adults still living through there school.

What is a good official?? lol Assigners do have a tough job. The problem is that assigners tend to have favorites. The favorites get the best games. For example i gurantee you you that when oak hill and minford play they get the officials that have a loads of experience and alot of these officials only do about 12 games a year becasue this allows them to do regional and district tourny games. I do agree that this game deserves quality but so do all the other games. Although one can say they are bad refs but they are the favorite of the assignert it is politics as usual lol. If you look at the bottom of the SOC and find the last place teams they are the ones that get the shaft on quality of officials when they play each other. you can see it every night in southern ohio. this is just my opinion from willow wood

FLASH-G wrote:The T.V.C. will never have an assigner because then they would have to say it's about the kids and not the adults who are still living though there kids or the adults still living through there school.

You are correct, but your reasoning is wrong IMO. The reason is some of the schools want to have the same home town officials over and over in some sports. The same guys do all or almost all of the home games. Now tell me if you were doing more than half of your job just seconds away from your home wouln't you try to do whatever you could to keep that employment? I would, and I am sure those officials feel the same way. So to keep their close to home employment they make sure the home team coach is kept happy.

basketball wrote:What is a good official?? lol Assigners do have a tough job. The problem is that assigners tend to have favorites. The favorites get the best games. For example i gurantee you you that when oak hill and minford play they get the officials that have a loads of experience and alot of these officials only do about 12 games a year becasue this allows them to do regional and district tourny games. I do agree that this game deserves quality but so do all the other games. Although one can say they are bad refs but they are the favorite of the assignert it is politics as usual lol. If you look at the bottom of the SOC and find the last place teams they are the ones that get the shaft on quality of officials when they play each other. you can see it every night in southern ohio. this is just my opinion from willow wood

I disagree with your comment about the most experirnced getting the best games.....I was at a marquee matchup 2 weeks ago between 2 SOC schools and 2 of the officials were very inexperienced......out of the 3 man crew.....1 had over 5 years experience,the other 2 have about 3 years varsity experience between them.....and it showed.

Assigners-Call officials and give them dates for availability. If the official/individual or crew is open they take the date given. Assigners from leagues have to compete with assigners from other leagues. If an assigner waits to late then he/she will get maybe the so called not as competent officials. The more leagues an official works in the more chances of good games then bad games. Yes, some of the better officials get the so called better games. If you want better games then work harder to be a better official and call in several leagues!!!!

For those of you who want to see who is believed to be the better officials-voted on by coaches, athletic directors, assigners, Southeastern Ohio District Athletic Board, and OHSAA state reps. go to http://www.ohsaa.org Go under officiating home, click on it. Scroll down to Game assignments, click on it. Scroll to bottom of page click on boy's or girl's and it will take you to Southeast District-There is your list of the better officials in your district.

Under Officiating home I see noting that says Game assignments?

athens78 wrote:Under Officiating home I see noting that says Game assignments?

Me neither......

click on officiating home!!!

Our athletic director does a great job of assigning officials at Eastern. We get the best avaialable and never have many complaints. So I see no need for a league assigner.

Here are the top officials for boys in Southeast Ohio voted by the coaches and AD's.

STATE 108089 PAUL D DAVIS BEAVER
150139 JOHN S DERROW WELLSTON
132652 DAVID A DUGAN ABERDEEN
121308 JOHN J EVANS LONG BOTTOM
120796 BERNARD G HENSLEY IRONTON
132948 DAVID HOPKINS PORTSMOUTH
139454 CHAD JENKINS JACKSON
151596 CHUCK MCKNIGHTT COAL GROVE
136071 RODNEY NICHOLS HILLSBORO
140247 WALTER NORRIS JR WELLSTON
146289 BRIAN PHIPPS WAVERLY
125110 J KEVIN SCHWARZEL ATHENS

REGIONAL 120335 ROBERT E CROCKREL IRONTON
149255 KEITH A DETTWILLER OTWAY
161822 RYAN W DOTSON WINCHESTER
127597 IVAN R HANSHAW SOUTH POINT
161605 SETH I MICHAEL OAK HILL
144149 THOMAS J PINKERMAN FRANKLIN FURNACE
155723 STACEY M RAGLAND CHILLICOTHE
121410 LOWELL W SETTLES WELLSTON
129368 DAVID L STAMM PORTSMOUTH
163795 MATT THORNSBERRY Chillicothe
157040 BRYAN K THROCKMORTON LUCASVILLE

SECT/DIST 159082 GREGORY S ABBOTT LEESBURG
159109 RANDALL A ADAMS THE PLAINS
112166 WAYNE E ARNOLD WASHINGTON COURT HOUSE
128338 JON R BEERY JR FRANKFORT
138184 MICHELLE BLIZZARD SOMERSET
101645 RONALD BORDEN CHILLICOTHE
149366 DAVID CLASSING SOUTH POINT
136767 FRED CONLEY IRONTON
122401 JAMES E COOK NEW LEXINGTON
146954 David N Curley Portsmouth
153739 BRENT GILLILAND HILLSBORO
163772 JARED GILLOTT WAVERLY
107659 TOMMIE R HARDY WILLOW WOOD
157462 SHELBY D HITCHENS WAVERLY
160380 RANDALL s HOOPER GLOUSTER
119277 RUSSELL K HOPKINS WEST PORTSMOUTH
148287 JOHN M JACKSON WELLSTON
152192 GREG L JONES JACKSON
161634 RICK P KASLER GLOUSTER
153805 JASON R KNODERER GLOUSTER
158869 JEFFREY W LANHAM THURMAN
121311 PHILLIP N LIGHTFOOT LOGAN
126080 DANIEL T MC DAVID FRANKLIN FURNAC
139791 KEITH MCGUIRE SOUTH POINT
114226 RONALD L MILLER LUCASVILLE
147748 BRENT E MUNN MINFORD
123438 DANNY L OATES CHILLICOTHE
161903 MATTHEW J ORIN MC DERMOTT
153767 RANDY A PAINTER SOMERSET
121318 LOUIS A PEAKE HUNTINGTON
144360 JASON PERCELL WHEELERSBURG
150419 ROB PITTSER WASHINGTON COURT HOUSE
122725 LYLE F PLYMALE II HUNTINGTON
130772 ALLEN RUSSELL ASHLAND
153253 DICK M SIMMONS HUNTINGTON
125798 KEVIN E SMITH RICHMOND DALE
112422 THOMAS A WALDEN IRONTON
147245 DENNIS S WHITLATCH ATHENS

ALTERNATE 131197 KEVIN ANDERSON HUNTINGTON
163793 BRENT BILLINGS GALLIPOLIS
127530 WAYNE B BLIZZARD SOMERSET
150212 TERRY F CARROLL LONDONDERRY
116067 EDWARD A CAUDILL BIDWELL
149269 CHAD J COOK CORNING
168229 STEVEN E COX NELSONVILLE
145487 RONALD E DYKE HUNTINGTON
133251 ROGER L FOSTER GALLIPOLIS
129297 MARVIN B GREENE WEST UNION
161810 JEREMY HALFHILL BIDWELL
168199 THOMAS J HARGIS HUNTINGTON
139062 ERIC A HOLMES COAL GROVE
134713 JOHN R. JACKSON WASHINGTON CH
121706 GARY L JENKINS Ironton
135649 RONNIE KILGORE WAYNE
138160 NEALE KNIGHT POMEROY
148778 PHIL A LOUDIN HILLSBORO
119756 LOVELL L MCKEE LOGAN
146015 JACK L MCKINNEY HUNTINGTON
151597 MAURIO V MCKISSICK HUNTINGTON
152175 MARK S MICHAEL HUNTINGTON
149256 DERRICK J MOSLEY SR PORTSMOUTH
137990 SCOTT RAWLINS BUCHTEL
114902 MICHAEL D ROUSE JACKSON
102545 JERRY W SAVAGE GREENFIELD
117362 PAUL D SEAMAN CHILLICOTHE
156830 TOM E SMITH PEEBLES
143411 ROBERT L SPARKS KENOVA
136763 JON STEVENS ASHLAND
129729 PATRICK I TABLER STEWART
161819 JAMES D TACKETT WAVERLY
121422 TOBEN WALLINGFORD CHILLICOTHE
139446 RUSTY WESTCOTT HUNTINGTON

Here are the top officials for Girls Basketball in SE Ohio voted by the coaches and AD's.

STATE 138184 MICHELLE BLIZZARD SOMERSET
101645 RONALD BORDEN CHILLICOTHE
120335 ROBERT E CROCKREL IRONTON
149255 KEITH A DETTWILLER OTWAY
161822 RYAN W DOTSON WINCHESTER
132652 DAVID A DUGAN ABERDEEN
121308 JOHN J EVANS LONG BOTTOM
127597 IVAN R HANSHAW SOUTH POINT
120796 BERNARD G HENSLEY IRONTON
132948 DAVID HOPKINS PORTSMOUTH
139454 CHAD JENKINS JACKSON
155309 VICKIE L NAPIERKOWSKI PORTSMOUTH
129368 DAVID L STAMM PORTSMOUTH

RETGIONAL 128338 JON R BEERY JR FRANKFORT
116067 EDWARD A CAUDILL BIDWELL
163772 JARED GILLOTT WAVERLY
107659 TOMMIE R HARDY WILLOW WOOD
160380 RANDALL s HOOPER GLOUSTER
138160 NEALE KNIGHT POMEROY
153805 JASON R KNODERER GLOUSTER
152357 LYNN A LANDIS RICHMOND DALE
126080 DANIEL T MC DAVID FRANKLIN FURNAC
151596 CHUCK MCKNIGHTT COAL GROVE
161605 SETH I MICHAEL OAK HILL
121410 LOWELL W NORRIS JR WELLSTON
140247 WALTER NORRIS JR WELLSTON
153767 RANDY A PAINTER SOMERSET
121318 LOUIS A PEAKE HUNTINGTON
155723 STACEY M RAGLAND CHILLICOTHE
130772 ALLEN RUSSELL ASHLAND
161819 JAMES D TACKETT WAVERLY
157040 BRYAN K THROCKMORTON LUCASVILLE

SEC/DIST 131197 KEVIN ANDERSON HUNTINGTON
127530 WAYNE B BLIZZARD SOMERSET
149366 DAVID CLASSING SOUTH POINT
149269 CHAD J COOK CORNING
150139 JOHN S DERROW WELLSTON
145487 RONALD E DYKE HUNTINGTON
153739 BRENT GILLILAND HILLSBORO
157462 SHELBY D HITCHENS WAVERLY
119277 RUSSELL K HOPKINS WEST PORTSMOUTH
161634 RICK P KASLER GLOUSTER
114226 RONALD L MILLER LUCASVILLE
147748 BRENT E MUNN MINFORD
148032 STEVEN D NESTER SOUTH POINT
123438 DANNY L OATES CHILLICOTHE
144149 THOMAS J PINKERMAN FRANKLIN FURNACE
114902 MICHAEL D ROUSE JACKSON
125798 KEVIN E SMITH RICHMOND DALE

ALTERNATE 159082 GREGORY S ABBOTT LEESBURG
159109 RANDALL A ADAMS THE PLAINS
112166 WAYNE E ARNOLD WASHINGTON COURT HOUSE
122401 JAMES E COOK NEW LEXINGTON
146954 David N Curley Portsmouth
108089 PAUL D DAVIS BEAVER
102542 DANIEL J DRUMMOND CHILLICOTHE
161810 JEREMY HALFHILL BIDWELL
139062 ERIC A HOLMES COAL GROVE
158869 JEFFREY W LANHAM THURMAN
121311 PHILLIP N LIGHTFOOT LOGAN
139791 KEITH MCGUIRE SOUTH POINT
161903 MATTHEW J ORIN MC DERMOTT
155217 MARK H SAUNDERS JUNCTION CITY
153789 LOU SCOTT LUCASVILLE
153253 DICK M SIMMONS HUNTINGTON
137991 JOHN STEVENS KITTS HILL
112422 THOMAS A WALDEN IRONTON
168294 GREGORY L WOODS CHILLICOTHE

If you are talking about Eastern-Beaver then your athletic director does not assign officials. The SOC has an assigner that assigns the games. You will find that most of the SOC I games are assigned to officials that are not "buddies" of the assigner.

GongedAgain wrote:Having coaches and AD's vote is a crock. Yes there are some really good ones on that list. But some AD's and coaches will give high ratings to there homer refs just because they are homer refs.

I don't see where voting for "homer" refs would be beneficial towards a coach. 1. Coaches want the best working tournament games. 2. The "homer" refs are not going to be working teams that they normally work. 3. I think 90% of the coaches and AD's have more integrity then that!!

Most people want to blame the officials for their team's lost - but was it the officials that turned over the basketball 20 times a game or shot 6 for 24 free throws or just shot 21% from floor or was out rebounded by 14. No they were not. maybe all of you that at blaming officials and the assigners for your team's lost or bad play should try going out there working the floor.