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Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:33 pm
by BleedingPurple&Gold
I think they should both have their own....

Lets hear it

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:17 pm
by FANOSPORTS
Should they ? , the answer is yes. It'll never happen because different factions have tossed the idea around for a couple decades now but nothing will ever come of it. The basketball and baseball state tournaments had been going on for decades with mostly public schools teams winning championships and then when the football playoffs began in 1972 it opened up a whole other door. Some of us "middle aged" folks can remember when it was pretty even/steven but with the advent of more parochial schools coming into being since the 1960's until today with feeder systems (and no it's not always recruiting) at the elementary and middle school levels I feel they today they do really have a hand up on public schools. A lot of people, especially in the southern part of the state (from which I am originally from) had to move to find work, the rural towns and populations kept getting smaller with consolidations being the norm for a few years while the bigger cities suburbs were growing at a rate where in some places there are news schools popping up all over the place, especially with christian schools (i.e. Harvest Prep, Tree of Life, Worthington Christian etc. as examples around the Columbus area). The Catholic schools, even though not as big as they once were as a whole (A lot of parishes have been closing or consolidating in the last few years) will still have the kids in there certain quadrant of they cities they are located in (i.e. Northwest Columbus for Watterson, Northeast Columbus for Desales, Southeast Columbus for Hartley and Southwest Columbus for Ready) that will always attend as generations before them have and sure they have an advantage population wise by far but if only 100 boys / girls attend this school then there's nothing anyone can do in the smaller divisions other than play them and see what happens. I think the MAC conference public schools (St. Henry, Coldwater, Versailles, etc.)have it figured out in both boys / girls sports but they also have I-75 that goes north and south thru the conference along with plenty of manufacturing and business that has sprung up through the years where families can stay stable, live a decent life in the "small" town, have community support along with tax dollars to keep the schools updated and upgraded so people want to keep there kids in public schools instead of sending them to private or catholic schools. We all know that a lot of the public schools especially in the last few years have had a lot more "move ins" or "transfers"than ever happened in the past so I think the mindset has changed in some of the public districts to "equal" this thing out but the private/public playoffs will never happen here in Ohio. :(

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:45 am
by trojandave
Absolutely not........open enrollment has made a huge difference in the competitive balance in today's high school athletics........just look in the SE district right now and notice how many schools are benefitting from athletes transferring in..........Logan Elm is one school that comes to mind..........two kids who were not in their program last year and are big contributors to their success this year............

I know at my school, Portsmouth, we had a kid move in from Port Clinton this past season and averaged 14 PPG........he ended up the second leading scorer on the team.........and was the leading scorer in our tourney game vs. North Adams with 25 points.

The only problem I have with division alignments is Division I, where the smallest schools, like Dresden Tri-Valley, have barely over 400 boys, and the largest schools, for example, Mentor, have almost 1,300 boys. Even open enrollment cannot make up for that discrepancy in size..........the North College Hill situation several years ago was an aberration and definitely not the norm.

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:05 pm
by wemufans
No half the schools that get to the finals have transfers fom other schools so they are semi private anyway!

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:20 pm
by tagyourit
My opinion is no, I don't believe they should. The enrollment number sizes between private schools are about as bad as the d1 schools as trojandave mentioned.

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:05 am
by ball hound
I don't think they should have seperate tournys. However, it would be nice if private schools would have to play up a division in the tourny to make it more even.

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:52 am
by Spartan
Only if they make public schools who recruit play in the same division with the private schools.

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:39 am
by Amen Corner
NO.


They all recruit in some form or fashion.

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:45 pm
by jeep80
Texas has TAPPS. A seperate system for the private schools.
Thing is though, the best teams are the public schools. And it's not even close!
A few years back Second Baptist had a football team that was one of the better in the state in TAPPS. They played out of TAPPS against the state champion from the year before (in the same division) and got killed.
There is way more allegience to the public school system down here.

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:50 pm
by frank-n-beans
Yes they should but no they won't.

Re: Should the state have a Public and Private playoff

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm
by yabbadabbadoo
I think with the new transfer rule that you have to sit out a year after you transfer well have a huge impact on some teams.

Can someone answer me this? I'm going to use Wheelersburg and Notre Dame as examples. If a player transfers from Notre Dame to Wheelersburg, he has to sit out a year, but if he transfers from the Burg to Notre Dame, he can play that year. Is this correct or am I wrong in that.

If that is the case, how is that fair to the public school.