Can Athens Region produce another State Champ

[81dendmhs74]

Not sure but I would have to say the best bet would be piketon, alot of studs there

[FANOSPORTS]

"OAK HILL, D-IV STATE BASKETBALL CHAMPIONS, 2009"

[FANOSPORTS]

..........Also, congratulations to both Logan Elm and Piketon from the Athens regional for making it to the state final four. You have both done yourselves and Southeastern Ohio proud.

[thecinderellapick]

Piketon has a nice team returning. Loads of talent. Great coaching staff. But, losing Smith and Brabson will make it tough to win the state title. Great year for Southern Ohio. Congratulations Oak Hill.

[yabbadabbadoo]

If the players that I'm hearing that might be coming to the Burg next year do come, then look out. Burg will be pretty strong. Won't put any names on here until they actually are in the system.

Burg would then have a great mix of size and speed. Would make them about 7-9 deep.

[magic man]

Im gonna say it but i really do think chilli would have been in the state championship game if they could have juist been on their A game agianst LE, thurgood wasnt a match for chilli

[eagles73Taylor]

If the players that I'm hearing that might be coming to the Burg next year do come, then look out. Burg will be pretty strong. Won't put any names on here until they actually are in the system.

Burg would then have a great mix of size and speed. Would make them about 7-9 deep.

And some on here bash privates and parochials for their ability to get players and maintain small school division! lol

Not that theres anything wrong with it! lol

[bman]

Staten and Robinson were both better than anyone Chillicothe has. Getting a good PG and defender who can score like that is special. They also led quite a bit of the game against Akron SVSM, which I didn't expect.

[seohhoops]

Im gonna say it but i really do think chilli would have been in the state championship game if they could have juist been on their A game agianst LE, thurgood wasnt a match for chilli

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Maybe if Logan Elm was on their "A" game, they would have beaten TM. Give credit where credit is due.

[sparky]

yabba,
if the burg wants to make it back to columbus they better get some transfers as that seems to be the theme for getting to the final four. all three teams this year had key transfers and chillicothe had one or two as well. south webster had one major transfer. and a few years back eastern brown had a couple of foreign exchange students.
if you can't beat em join em!

[eagles73Taylor]

^^^^^sparky, Piketon did have transfers, but they came over way back in grade school. Smith and Brabson came to Piketon from Eastern and Waverly in 6th grade, Brush from Notre Dame in 3rd grade and Vulgamore from Eastern in 4th grade. James Lewis' whole family moved up here from Kentucky last year, not for athletic reasons and Braniff lives in Piketon, he just attended Miracle City for the last 3 years. Legg, Helton, Helton and Southworth have been at Piketon since kindergarten. Now, I know transfers are transfers, but these boys have been together for at least 6 years. I know what you are talking about, kids moving in their soph, jr or sr year to win. I am not saying Piketon is above that, just showing that these boys have been in the system for quite some time.

[sparky]

where is miracle city?

[yabbadabbadoo]

If the players that I'm hearing that might be coming to the Burg next year do come, then look out. Burg will be pretty strong. Won't put any names on here until they actually are in the system.

Burg would then have a great mix of size and speed. Would make them about 7-9 deep.

And some on here bash privates and parochials for their ability to get players and maintain small school division! lol

Not that theres anything wrong with it! lol

Still a huge difference in with public schools you actually have to live in the district now, while with the private and parochial schools, you can just come on open enrollment. IMO, at least the player and his family is making a commitment to the town that they are going to, even if it is only one to two years in some instances.

[Out of Bounds]

Did anyone watch 60 Minutes last night with Lebron James? He flat out said he brought his coach and AAU team to Akron St. Vincent. Now how can it possibly be fair for public schools to compete with this??

[smurray]

Out of Bounds,
The only way you can halfway compete with it is with kids "transferring". As already mentioned, all of the state champions from these parts in the past few years have had major transfers (S.W., Chilly, Oak Hill). Two of those 3 have been in division 4 which makes it easier as well.

[eagles73Taylor]

If a student transfers after the beginning of their freshmen year, to a public or non public high school, they must sit out 1 year! See below. I am not a private school fan, but publics have tainted the water with some of their antics lately, look at North College Hill basketball. Cleveland Glenville football and even some local schools taking advantage of the transfers.

If a student transfers after the fifth day of the student’s ninth grade year or after having established eligibility prior to the start of school by playing in a contest (scrimmage, preview or regular season/tournament contest), the student will be ineligible for one year from the date of enrollment in the school to which the student transferred. A student is considered to have transferred whenever the student changes from that school in which the student was enrolled as a ninth grader to any other school regardless of whether the school from which the student transferred or to which the student transfers is public or non-public, member or non-member or whether the high schools are within the same school district. Subject to the specific provisions of this Section 7 – Transfer – the following exceptions to the general
transfer bylaw may apply:
EXCEPTION 1 — If the parents or legal guardian have made a bona-fide legal change of residence from one public school district to another public school district, the student may enroll in either the public school within the boundaries of that public school district that includes the new residence of the parents or legal guardian or any non-public school, and be immediately eligible insofar as transfer is concerned. Note: See the definition of a bona fide residence in Bylaw 4-6-1.
BYLAWS
BYLAWS
EXCEPTION 2 — If the student is the ward of a court-appointed guardian, and there is a subsequent change in that guardian, the student shall be eligible in the district of residence of the new guardian or at any non-public school provided the student lives with the guardian. Likewise, if the student is the child of parents who were never married or have had their marriage terminated and there is a court ordered change of custody, the student shall be eligible in the district of residence of the new custodial parent or at any non-public school provided the student lives with the new custodial parent. For purposes of this exception, the term “parent” means the biological or adoptive parents of the student or, as the case may be, the person to whom parenting rights and responsibilities have been allocated pursuant to court order. In the event a student has been temporarily or permanently removed
from the home, “parent” means the person or government agency with legal or permanent custody. When a change of residential parent or legal custodian results in a change of school district, the student is ineligible until ruled eligible by the Commissioner’s office.

EXCEPTION 3 — If, and only if, either one of the parents in a Shared Parenting Plan,
notwithstanding any provisions therein to the contrary, makes a bona-fide legal change of residence from one public school district into another public school district, the student shall be immediately eligible insofar as transfer is concerned in the public school located in the residential district of either parent or any nonpublic school.

EXCEPTION 4 — If the school in which the student is enrolled closes, the student may
enroll in any school and be immediately eligible insofar as transfer is concerned.

EXCEPTION 5 — If the bona fide residence of the student’s parents is annexed to a
different school district or consolidated within a school district, the student may be ruled eligible upon transfer to a school in the annexed or consolidated district subject to modification by formal action by the Boards of Education concerned. A copy of such action by Boards of Education must be on file in the Association office before the Commissioner’s office can rule the student eligible.

EXCEPTION 6 —A student shall be entitled to one transfer into a public high school located in the public school district within which the student’s parent residence is located except that such a transfer shall not be permitted if the student has previously utilized the superintendent’s agreement which was previously set forth in exception 6 to transfer from that same public high school. Note: The highlighted text will be removed from the Bylaws in 2010-2011.

EXCEPTION 7 — If a student transfers from a non-public high school to the public high school in which the student’s parents’ residence is situated pursuant to

Exception 6 above,
the student may transfer back to the same non-public high school and have her/his eligibility restored at the discretion of the Commissioner’s office provided the following conditions have been met:
1. That the transfer from the non-public high school to the public high school was not done for athletic reasons but for purely academic reasons or family circumstances beyond the control of the student and/or his/her parents; and
2. The student had been continuously enrolled in the same system of non-public education (e.g., Catholic Conference of Ohio, Ohio Association of Independent Schools, Association of Christian School International or other category as denoted by the State Department of Education) beginning in the 6th grade and continuing thereafter through and including the eighth grade as the high school in which the student enrolled as a ninth grader.
3. The student has been ruled eligible by the Commissioner’s office.
BYLAWS
BYLAWS

EXCEPTION 8—A student who does not live in the same school district as parents or legal guardian and who is financially self-supporting may be ruled eligible upon approval of the Commissioner at a school in the district where the student resides. The Commissioner is empowered to establish requirements for the student to be determined to be self-supporting. These requirements shall be established for each school year by May 15th of the preceding year. Self-support documentation must be submitted for approval every 30 days. The student is ineligible until ruled eligible by the Commissioner. Note: Living with and/or being employed by a relative does not qualify for self-support under this exception.

EXCEPTION 9 —A student transferred to the State School for the Blind or State School for the Deaf shall be eligible upon enrollment.

EXCEPTION 10 — The Commissioner shall have the discretionary power to waive the
Residence requirements in only those cases of students whose parents live outside
the school district and whose contracted domicile is not available for their habitation. The students are ineligible until ruled eligible by the Commissioner.

EXCEPTION 11 — If, and only if, a school district ceases to sponsor its interscholastic
athletic program, a student may transfer to any other school and continue his/her eligibility provided the following conditions are met:
a) The student had participated on the school sponsored team in the canceled sport during the entire previous sport season for that sport; and
b) The transfer occurs at the beginning of the new school year (defined as the first day of school or when the student participates in the first contest for the school prior to the beginning of the school year) or, at the beginning of the next grading period following the school’s decision to cancel its sponsorship of its interscholastic athletic program; and
c) For a period of one year from the date of transfer, the student may only participate in that sport(s) in which the student had participated in the previous school year; and
d) Evidence that all of the conditions for eligibility are submitted to the office of the
Commissioner, which, upon review, may rule the student eligible. No student transferring under this provision shall be eligible until declared so by the Commissioner’s office. In addition to the preceding conditions having been met, the following limitation shall
apply:
Any student transferring eligibility pursuant to this exception will not be able to take advantage of exception 6 (transfer into residential district) of this Bylaw at any time after the
transfer becomes effective.

[ohbuckeye2]

All of those exceptions does nothing but create loop holes, so all transfers can be made legal one way or another.

[eagles73Taylor]

^^^ My point, but public schools are starting to recruit, bend rules and everything else under the sun but still chastise private schools for the same thing.

I am not defending private schools, there are other things about them that give them an advantage. The recruiting thing and transfers however are not an issue any more.

[trojandave]

Public schools won 2 of the 4 state titles in 2009..........not 3 of 4 as I previously stated.........

[Sweet Pea]

td,

i think it is only 2 of 4.
D1 - northland
D2 - ASVSM (private)
D3 - Cleve Cent Cath (private)
D4 - Oak Hill

tho i wish it had been 3/4 - with LE being the 3rd!!

late
sweetpea