Rules Question????????

[Boo-Duh]

If a team takes a timeout with possession of the ball in their front court, after the timeout and the throw in taking place at the free throw line extended in their front court, can they in bounds the ball directly to a teammate standing in his back court?

Thanks in advance

[osumufan]

I think so, but I don't make the big bucks as a ref so am not 100%.

[BOO YAH]

On an in-bounds play, yes.

[5HDbOy]

yes u can i never seen anyone call over and back on that

[Boo-Duh]

yes u can i never seen anyone call over and back on that

Was keeping the book for a grade school game Sat, and one of the Officials (not OHSAA licensed) called over and back on the throw in. I told him that I thought that was a Pro Rule and I hadn't heard of any change in HS. I haven't had my license to officiate BK for 10 years and wanted to make sure. He said he thought it was a recent rule change. One of the Coaches agreed with him, but you know how that goes..LOL...Thanks

[biggdowgg]

yes u can i never seen anyone call over and back on that

Was keeping the book for a grade school game Sat, and one of the Officials (not OHSAA licensed) called over and back on the throw in. I told him that I thought that was a Pro Rule and I hadn't heard of any change in HS. I haven't had my license to officiate BK for 10 years and wanted to make sure. He said he thought it was a recent rule change. One of the Coaches agreed with him, but you know how that goes..LOL...Thanks

im sure,at least one side of the stands agreed with it to...


one thing aboput being a REF,,,you are ALWAYS RIGHT....






















AND WRONG,at the same time

[Frank Reagan]

Any idea why they were using non-OHSAA officials? I know it isn't manditory at that level, but to keep down mistakes like this, I wonder why they weren't or aren't being used.

[on a mission]

I was told recently by a very good varsity official that there isn't any divisional lines while inbounding the ball.

[BlindWhiteHat]

I checked with an OHSAA official and it is not a violation. He said possession is not established until someone has the ball inbounds.

[tossithigh]

Rule 9-9-3.......A player from the team not in control (defensive player or during a jump ball or throw-in) may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the back court. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt.

Now for the other shoe......

Keep in mind that the throw-in ends when the passed ball touches or is legally touched by another player inbounds. Meaning the if a ball is deflected (by A1 or B1) during the throw-in, then caught by A2 who leaves his/her feet in the frontcourt, catches the ball then lands in the back court -- a backcourt violation has occurred. But if A2 establishes backcourt status first he/she can gain possession of the deflected ball in the backcourt because there was no team possession in the frontcourt.

[bigboss]

I believe any ref from Jr. high up should have to be OHSAA licensed.

[classof86]

I agree, and to answer the question, it is legal to cross half court and catch an inbounds pass. Even if you catch it on the same side, if your momentum carries you across the halfcourt line, it still isnt over and back

[Boo-Duh]

Any idea why they were using non-OHSAA officials? I know it isn't mandatory at that level, but to keep down mistakes like this, I wonder why they weren't or aren't being used.

I was told that someone called off late and they could not find someone licenced... I was happy I wasn't the one to fill in!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!

I didn't think the rule had changed, but not doing basketball for 10 years and the fact there was no State rules meeting this year I wasn't 100% sure.... The bad part was the other LICENSED official didn't know for sure....

[tossithigh]

OHSAA regulations do not cover grade school sports.

Freshman/7th/8th grade - One Class 1,2, or 3 official required. All other officials required to be Class 1, 2 or 3 OHSAA basketball official or official in training. Reference: Handbook For Officials 2009, Section XII, 2.13.

[Frank Reagan]

OHSAA regulations do not cover grade school sports.

Freshman/7th/8th grade - One Class 1,2, or 3 official required. All other officials required to be Class 1, 2 or 3 OHSAA basketball official or official in training. Reference: Handbook For Officials 2009, Section XII, 2.13.

I know the OHSAA doesn't regulate below 7th grade. In football, the local leagues use the NFHS rules with their own minor rule tweeks and use OHSAA officials since they are (or should be) fluent with the rules. I was just curious whether the league used licensed officials or not.

[drrabbit]

I agree, and to answer the question, it is legal to cross half court and catch an inbounds pass. Even if you catch it on the same side, if your momentum carries you across the halfcourt line, it still isnt over and back

Your first sentence is correct but the second is not. When possession is not decided, you can catch the ball on any side of the floor.

But if you catch the ball in the front court and your momentum carries you to the back court, then you have committed over and back. You have to first establish presence in the backcourt to catch it there legally. If you are entirely in the frontcourt and leap into the air and land in the back court, it is over and back unless you are a defensive player stealing the ball. In these cases the player had established themselves in the front court and was 'front court' when they caught the ball then moved into the backcourt for the violation. The NCAA changed this rule a couple of years ago but as far as I know, high school has not--and neither has pros or international.

As one referee once told me "you are where you were until you get where you are going."

It is the same if Player A1 is inbounding the ball to player A2. If A2 passes the ball back to A1 and he touches the ball while he is leaping inbounds but before he touches the floor inbounds, the ball is out of bounds to team B.