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Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:40 am
by Ryanexpress
Used to post a rules question every now & then to have some nice conversation for both fans & officials.

Thought maybe time to do it again & get some get conversation going:

This question was asked quite some time ago & made for some very nice post, figured it would be a good starter once again.


Team A is taking the ball out of bounds on the baseline. Player taking the ball out of bounds extends the ball out across the in bounds line [still having the ball in his/her hands]. Team B grabs the ball...Both players have a hold of the ball [tie up]...

Ruling?

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:51 am
by Preppy
Violation on defense for interference?

I really do not know, just a guess.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:52 pm
by bbjunky81
It would not be a jump ball.

The inbounder has a SPOT (with his feet) but can move his hands and ball however he wishes as long as his feet do not move. As long as the ball never came out of the inbounders hands, it's still his possession. Referee blows the whistle, probably tells the defender to take a step back, and another throw in to follow.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:56 pm
by G.W.A.
Violation on Defense for not maintaining proper distance.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:00 pm
by goodsoccer8
But the defensive player is a legal player on the court. The inbounding player is not. Would this not be the same as if a player were to hand off to his own teammate? Out of bounds on the inbounder?

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:10 pm
by eagles73Taylor
bbjunky81 wrote:It would not be a jump ball.

The inbounder has a SPOT (with his feet) but can move his hands and ball however he wishes as long as his feet do not move. As long as the ball never came out of the inbounders hands, it's still his possession. Referee blows the whistle, probably tells the defender to take a step back, and another throw in to follow.
The inbounder may move 3 feet, he can shuffle both feet if he likes, as long as he doesnt come out of that 3 foot box.

Out of bounds on Team A, since the ball moved into the legal playing area and Team B tied him up while he was out of bounds, team B's ball.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:16 pm
by clevelandbrowns#1
jump ball-alternate possession arrow

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:24 pm
by Ryanexpress
^^^^^^ Winner Winner:

Thrower A1 inadvertently holds the ball through the endline
plane during a throw-in. B1 is able to get his/her hands on the ball and A1
cannot pull it back. RULING: A held ball is called, resulting in an alternating-possession
throw-in. If the original throw-in is an alternating-possession throw-in,
Team A still has the arrow following the held ball.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:31 am
by Blackcobra
Good Post :!:

Re: Rules question

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:45 am
by goinbroke
This just happened to one of our kids. Ref called a technical on defender and awarded 2 free throws. He was adamant he was right even after he was shown the rule in the OSHAA rule book.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:48 am
by clevelandbrowns#1
GoinBroke,
If the defender reached across the boundary line (out of bounds line) and grabbed the ball then you have a technical foul.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:05 am
by Regulator
This kind of post shows us exactly how many people really don't have a clue, including some refs. So many different answers. That is probably why you always hear someone griping, because they didn't know. This weekend a boy was dribbling to halfcourt, one foot went across the line but the other foot and basketball stayed in the backcourt. It was funny to hear how many people yelled over and back!!! LOL I do know that all 3 have to cross (Both Feet and Ball) for this to be over and back!!

Re: Rules question

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:09 am
by Ryanexpress
Regulator,

Agreed.
That is one reason I enjoy posting these type of post.
Makes for good debates/conversation, plus can be very informative to both fans as well as officials.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:34 pm
by Farmer Yoder
Ryanexpress wrote:Used to post a rules question every now & then to have some nice conversation for both fans & officials.

Thought maybe time to do it again & get some get conversation going:

This question was asked quite some time ago & made for some very nice post, figured it would be a good starter once again.


Team A is taking the ball out of bounds on the baseline. Player taking the ball out of bounds extends the ball out across the in bounds line [still having the ball in his/her hands]. Team B grabs the ball...Both players have a hold of the ball [tie up]...

Ruling?
Speaking from years of experience, let me say this. If Waterford is involved in the game, they get the ball and two foul shots. Plus, if I get my usual bonus, I will throw the opposing coach out of the game.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:36 pm
by goinbroke
ClevelandBrowns#1 wrote:GoinBroke,
If the defender reached across the boundary line (out of bounds line) and grabbed the ball then you have a technical foul.
Yeah we knew you couldn't cross the in-bounds line, and the kid didn't. The ball broke the plane first before defender touched ball.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:27 am
by G.W.A.
GoinBroke wrote:
ClevelandBrowns#1 wrote:GoinBroke,
If the defender reached across the boundary line (out of bounds line) and grabbed the ball then you have a technical foul.
Yeah we knew you couldn't cross the in-bounds line, and the kid didn't. The ball broke the plane first before defender touched ball.
Whatever happen to the defender staying back 3'. Sometimes old school rules were better for the game IMO.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:56 am
by eagles73Taylor
That was for gyms where the out of bounds line was a very short distance from the wall or bleachers! New gyms have plenty of room for the inbounder to have space.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:09 am
by Ryanexpress
Lets try another one:

Point guard attempts a 15 foot jump shot after ending the dribble. The attempt is an “air ball” and touches nothing. Point guard that shot the ball is a
great hustler, runs and is able to catch the ball before it strikes the floor.

What do we have?

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:34 am
by Tri-StateYouthSports
Play on (no violation) since it was a legitimate shot attempt even if it was an air ball.

Re: Rules question

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:43 am
by Ryanexpress
Correct ^^^

When the shooter recovered his shot, he could dribble, pass, or shoot again. There is no team control
after the ball is released on a try.