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Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:45 am
by 4thgoal
The text below came from this link
http://www.ohsaa.org/news/201516Basketb ... elease.pdf

Last year, the rules committee added Article 12 to Rule 10-6 in an effort to eliminate excessive contact on ball-handlers and dribblers outside of the lane area. Beginning next season, excessive contact on any ball-handler will be a violation of the rules.
The new language states that “a player becomes a ball-handler when he/she receives the ball. This would include a player in a post position.”
The acts that constitute a foul when committed against a ball-handler are a) placing two hands on the player, b) placing an extended arm bar on the player, c) placing and keeping a hand on the player and d) contacting the player more than once with the same hand or alternating hands.
“The current rule covers the ball-handler/dribbler situations but ignores the action that
goes on in the post area with the hands, arm bars, etc.,” said Theresia Wynns, NFHS director of
sports and officials. “The additional language will clarify that the illegal acts should be ruled for
every position on the floor.”

Re: Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 10:19 am
by NewEra
People are going to arm ball until they call it consistently which IMO will not happen. I mean my goodness, how are you suppose to guard?? Lets just play a transition shooting game and timed layup drill to determine who wins. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:44 pm
by efarns
You have to move your feet and not rely on grabbing and pushing people.

In theory, I appreciate that they're trying to allow movement in the post area. Let's see how all the extra foul calls affect the game.

Re: Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:02 pm
by NewEra
efarns wrote:You have to move your feet and not rely on grabbing and pushing people.

In theory, I appreciate that they're trying to allow movement in the post area. Let's see how all the extra foul calls affect the game.
A arm bar isn't grabbing or pushing it's been fundamental defense for years. IMO this is just going to increase contact away from the ball, as smaller teams will have to bump and be more aggressive physically to keep guys off the block or high on the block.

Re: Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:55 pm
by trojandave
Like any rule, it has to be enforced for it to have a significant effect on the game.

Re: Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:01 pm
by pembrook burrows III
Marshall Coach Danny D'Antoni agrees with you, Dave. Similar rule changes are being made in the college game, and he is excited about how these changes will enhance any team's ability to emulate what he and his brother Mike ran with the Phoenix Suns, where spacing and ball movement were the emphasis. D'Antoni had these comments about the rule changes in today's Charleston Daily Mail:
He does agree with others who say the rule changes will work only if the officials calling games allow them to work. They must define freedom of movement, allow it and be consistent in their calls. Basketball programs not used to the new rules might have some difficulties getting used to them, but D’Antoni figures it won’t take long for them to adapt.
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And he’s quite happy to see the rules change to enhance freedom of movement. “It allows skill players to win and fundamentally sound players to be better,” D’Antoni said. “When you don’t allow physical play and allow freedom of movement, people who are efficient in their movement and efficient in their footwork now have a really good chance of being successful. It allows ball movement, player movement and is good for the game.” Allowing that in the NBA is what has allowed players like Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson of the Golden State Warriors to jump from good to great. Curry may not be the quickest player in the NBA, but he’s a quick shot and an efficient player who was voted the league’s Most Valuable Player this season.

“You can look at the NBA right now,” D’Antoni said, “and the top four teams all play the style of game we played in Phoenix.”
See more at: http://www.charlestondailymail.com/arti ... YRFsJ.dpuf

D'Antoni is in the midst of revamping his roster at Marshall to include many more skilled basketball players, and fewer athletes who happen to play basketball. One major benefactor during his initial 2014-2015 campaign was South Webster grad Austin Loop, a Herd walk-on who blossomed into Conference USA's second best three point shooter.

Because these similar high school rule changes emphasize skill over brute force, this bodes well for southeastern Ohio squads who choose to adapt to the way the game is being played more and more today at all levels.

Re: Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:27 pm
by Blackcobra
Lol weakness over strength.= "skill" over strength, he we go making special rules for special players. You know, for those players that just aren't fast, sorry quick enough to get around someone. Last years rule wasn't good enough?

Re: Rule Change for Contact in Post Play

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:14 pm
by smurray
WOW, this is ridiculous, especially trying to enforce it.