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In to Jan so can we throw out some names for POY ? It might be too early with some Injuries but there has to be some insight.

I don't think anyone is really sticking out right now. Especially with the Injuries to some of the pre-season favorites. And others just have not lived up to expectations. TVC-OHIO just way down this year, the teams haven't done anything against non-conference opponents so far this year.

In the TVC-HOCKING I would say the clear cut favorite so far is Randy Hixson from Trimble. His numbers are insane and that team Revolves around him. If he isn't on the floor I just don't see Trimble having a chance in most of their games.

Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.

Hixson in Hocking
Wide open in Ohio. Yates, Mattox, Baer and Butcher all have a shot however it could be none of these.

my Pick right now would be speakman from VC

AliceLoyd2013 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:56 pm Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.

Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.

What exactly is looked at when you consider POY? Do you look at the total body of work of a player? I mean are you looking at Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals and the overall Total package? Or is it more of the "IT" Factor and Points per Game? There are some players who aren't "FLASHY" that are going out every night and just working hard and putting their teams in the best position to win, they just don't get the Praise and mentions of these other players who are a little more "flashy"

Speakman from VC

Naylan Yates for me. Speakman is critical with what he does for the VC team...but Yates is the go to guy MVP on that team and from what I’ve seen the league.

Speakman is an awesome player.

VC will eventually run away with the league ...
Yates will win POY
Combs COY

Same story, different year

tvc_fan wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm

AliceLoyd2013 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:56 pm Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.

Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.

What were his Stats tonight Vs Alex?

VisionQuest wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:40 am

tvc_fan wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm

AliceLoyd2013 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:56 pm Yates from VC
Mattox from Meigs
****if either stay healthy

Speakman from VC



I agree, not many sticking out up to this point.

Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.

What were his Stats tonight Vs Alex?

He had 12 tonight

tvc_fan wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:03 am

VisionQuest wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:40 am

tvc_fan wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:56 pm

Be nice if someone can come up with the stats for these players.

I will post Mattox after tonight's game. In the 4 complete games he has played he has averaged 23ppg..he has played half game versus VC and half game versus RV and only had 6 points in those quarters....so averaging 18ppg all together....and all with a blown ACL.

What were his Stats tonight Vs Alex?

He had 12 tonight

And won by 11 so there you go. Must have been a good team effort then tonight.

VisionQuest wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:15 pm What exactly is looked at when you consider POY? Do you look at the total body of work of a player? I mean are you looking at Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals and the overall Total package? Or is it more of the "IT" Factor and Points per Game? There are some players who aren't "FLASHY" that are going out every night and just working hard and putting their teams in the best position to win, they just don't get the Praise and mentions of these other players who are a little more "flashy"

Good question. Unfortunately people look at points only . Some of the players that lead their team in PPG are good shooters but add less than others . A POY should be someone that not only scores but makes his team mates better. Plays stellar defense , sticks his nose in there and takes a charge . Sets up his team with assist and does not get upset when someone else has more points or better stats . My vote goes to the overall player that knows there is no "I" in TEAM . IMO

The Miller Falcons Compston and Starlin have to enter the conservation with their win last night.
They each will be stat stuffers and have the "It" factor mentioned above.
You will find that the POY often comes from the league champ.

There is no hard and fast rule on voting except that you have to vote for one kid.
A coach split his vote one year and prompted that rule. hahahaahah
It usually is a no brainer but there are exceptions:
At one time they had the coach list the kids on their ballot from top to bottom with the top kid getting more points than the ones lower than them.
A Girl from Federal who had a full ride Athletic Scholarship to Miami of Ohio where she played----was dead last on one coach's ballot.
So...personalities and spite does come into play at times.

fortdawg wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:36 am The Miller Falcons Compston and Starlin have to enter the conservation with their win last night.
They each will be stat stuffers and have the "It" factor mentioned above.
You will find that the POY often comes from the league champ.

I was thinking the same thing. But Eveland is the best defender in the league. Hustles and guaranteed his 10+ points a game. Bartley kid is a stud also. Hixson is a stud. It’ll be a toss up. They held Hixson to 16 when he averages 30 something I beleive. Will see in the near future who wins. All great players.

Truth&fiction wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:11 am

VisionQuest wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:15 pm What exactly is looked at when you consider POY? Do you look at the total body of work of a player? I mean are you looking at Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals and the overall Total package? Or is it more of the "IT" Factor and Points per Game? There are some players who aren't "FLASHY" that are going out every night and just working hard and putting their teams in the best position to win, they just don't get the Praise and mentions of these other players who are a little more "flashy"

Good question. Unfortunately people look at points only . Some of the players that lead their team in PPG are good shooters but add less than others . A POY should be someone that not only scores but makes his team mates better. Plays stellar defense , sticks his nose in there and takes a charge . Sets up his team with assist and does not get upset when someone else has more points or better stats . My vote goes to the overall player that knows there is no "I" in TEAM . IMO

Great point - In my view SE OH basketball is a soft brand of basketball. Not enough kids wanting to rebound. Teams that rebound & play D win. Players who block out, dive for loose balls & hustle stand out to me.

My view of the top 2 players is skewed a bit by their coaches IMO.