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... Pfloyd's Elite 8 of Southern/SouthEast Ohio Week #4 ...

1. Logan Elm (2-0)
2. Fairland (4-1)
3. Warren (5-1)
4. Waverly (3-0)
5. Wheelersburg (4-0)
6. Eastern Brown (5-0)
7. New Boston (5-0)
8. Adena (7-1))

... TreeHugger Wannabees ...

Jackson (4-0)
Unioto (5-2)
Fairfield Union (2-0)
Sheridan (3-1)
Hillsboro (2-1)
Trimble (3-0)
Chesapeake (2-2)
15
Peebles (1-1)
Chillicothe
Federal Hocking (1-1)
Piketon (3-3)
Lucasville Valley (3-3)
20
Greenfield McClain (3-2)
Zane Trace (4-3)
Ironton St. Joseph (1-0)
South Point
Fairfield Leesburg (3-1)
25
Athens (3-4)
Miami Trace (1-4)
Vinton County (3-2)
Logan
Ironton (2-1)
30
Alexander 2-1)
South Webster (3-3)
Minford (3-2)
North Adams (3-2)
Marietta (2-4)
35
South Gallia (3-1)
Meigs (1-4)
Western Pike (4-3)
Portsmouth
Circleville (2-3)
40
New Lexington (2-4)
Gallia Academy (1-1)
Coal Grove (1-2)
Wellston (3-1)
Belpre (2-3)
45
Paint Valley (3-3)
Nelsonville York (3-4)
Oak Hill (1-3)
Waterford (2-1)
River Valley (3-2)
50
Southeastern (1-2)
Whiteoak (3-3)
Northwest (2-1)
Eastern Pike (2-4)
West Union (1-5)
55
Portsmouth Notre Dame (1-1)
Symmes Valley (1-3)
Portsmouth West (1-2)
Green (1-3)
Rock Hill (1-2)
60

... Teams on the End Table ...

Crooksville (0-3)
Westfall (0-3)
Huntington (0-3)
Lynchburg Clay (0-5)
Southern (0-5)
Reedville Eastern (0-4)
Portsmouth Clay (0-6)
Washington CH (0-1)
Manchester (0-2)
Miller (0-4)
Portsmouth East (0-1)

Other than a handful of teams we are pretty much in agreement and it’s still so early. We are like 25 spots off on Chesapeake...probably a happy medium between us.

You are more stubborn than I am but that probably a good thing.

I’m taking Manchester over Clay by 15+

Fort Frye beats Fairland.
Warren beats Fort Frye less than a week later!

Don't be intimidated by those accusing you of being a Maddox Homer ... Warren is still #1 on my big board, Floyd.

I'd definitively have Gallia above Meigs as well. They are about 15 pts better than the Marauders and proved it in the season opener.

You have Southern at (1-5)

What am I missing?

Southern Tornadoes

12/4 Nelsonville-York 65-60 L
12/8 River Valley 51-35 L
12/15 @ Waterford 53-47 L
12/18 @ Trimble 69-41 L
12/19 @ Green 76-56 L

They are (0-5)

To help you with TVC teams .... http://www.wxtq.com/schedules-results/

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:24 pm You have Southern at (1-5)

What am I missing?

Southern Tornadoes

12/4 Nelsonville-York 65-60 L
12/8 River Valley 51-35 L
12/15 @ Waterford 53-47 L
12/18 @ Trimble 69-41 L
12/19 @ Green 76-56 L

They are (0-5)

To help you with TVC teams .... http://www.wxtq.com/schedules-results/

That’s what I had when I put them down.

Agree Gallia over Meigs, buy several spots

93bulldog.....what are your thoughts on Athens/VC/Alex/Fed Hock? What order would you have them?

Such a great question I92 and we will find out real quick.

Athens Bulldogs
12/22 @ Meigs
1/5 Vinton County
1/8 River Valley
1/12 Marietta
1/15 @ Alexander
1/16 Trimble
1/23 @ Federal Hocking

If we are playing a pick up game at Grover Center i'd maybe hedge my bet on Fed Hock, just based off their size and athleticism and raw ability. But there is so much more to the high school game than that. How do you place a value on a team like Trimble? So gritty, so well coached, incredibility fundamentally sound. I would not be surprised if the 'Cats swept the Lancers this year - but I also would not be surprised if it went the other way. Vinton County is somewhat similar to Trimble, Matt is such a great game manager and he always has a team of BASKETBALL players who know and understand the game. I'd take Athens horses over the Vikes and definitely have the Dogs as favorites to win the Ohio, but you know how things go when you play in McArthur.

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:24 pm You have Southern at (1-5)

What am I missing?

Southern Tornadoes

12/4 Nelsonville-York 65-60 L
12/8 River Valley 51-35 L
12/15 @ Waterford 53-47 L
12/18 @ Trimble 69-41 L
12/19 @ Green 76-56 L

They are (0-5)

To help you with TVC teams .... http://www.wxtq.com/schedules-results/

I had a question mark beside a score for Southern right after the RV game, Scorestream had them winning 57-46 vs the United ??? Peoples Front of Judea ? or maybe that was from Monty Python's Life of Brian - I get confused sometimes ... an easy fix

Sometimes scorestream will have the wrong gender, Floyd. Say it's boys basketball score and really be a girls game.

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:45 pm Such a great question I92 and we will find out real quick.

Athens Bulldogs
12/22 @ Meigs
1/5 Vinton County
1/8 River Valley
1/12 Marietta
1/15 @ Alexander
1/16 Trimble
1/23 @ Federal Hocking

If we are playing a pick up game at Grover Center i'd maybe hedge my bet on Fed Hock, just based off their size and athleticism and raw ability. But there is so much more to the high school game than that. How do you place a value on a team like Trimble? So gritty, so well coached, incredibility fundamentally sound. I would not be surprised if the 'Cats swept the Lancers this year - but I also would not be surprised if it went the other way. Vinton County is somewhat similar to Trimble, Matt is such a great game manager and he always has a team of BASKETBALL players who know and understand the game. I'd take Athens horses over the Vikes and definitely have the Dogs as favorites to win the Ohio, but you know how things go when you play in McArthur.

I didn’t see Alexander being very good at all...off to a good start

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:50 pm Sometimes scorestream will have the wrong gender, Floyd. Say it's boys basketball score and really be a girls game.

... yep, oh I know ... even some of the radio stations that I search for scores have incorrect scores and/or genders as well ...

With Miller, Southern, Eastern being so down Fed Hock and Trimble going to have a lot of uncompetitive games. Waterford and Belpre aren’t strong this year either correct?

Is South Gallia in the Hocking now?

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:51 pm

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:45 pm Such a great question I92 and we will find out real quick.

Athens Bulldogs
12/22 @ Meigs
1/5 Vinton County
1/8 River Valley
1/12 Marietta
1/15 @ Alexander
1/16 Trimble
1/23 @ Federal Hocking

If we are playing a pick up game at Grover Center i'd maybe hedge my bet on Fed Hock, just based off their size and athleticism and raw ability. But there is so much more to the high school game than that. How do you place a value on a team like Trimble? So gritty, so well coached, incredibility fundamentally sound. I would not be surprised if the 'Cats swept the Lancers this year - but I also would not be surprised if it went the other way. Vinton County is somewhat similar to Trimble, Matt is such a great game manager and he always has a team of BASKETBALL players who know and understand the game. I'd take Athens horses over the Vikes and definitely have the Dogs as favorites to win the Ohio, but you know how things go when you play in McArthur.

I didn’t see Alexander being very good at all...off to a good start

You'll find out a lot about Alexander and Wellston for that matter Tuesday night.

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:54 pm With Miller, Southern, Eastern being so down Fed Hock and Trimble going to have a lot of uncompetitive games. Waterford and Belpre aren’t strong this year either correct?

Is South Gallia in the Hocking now?

Miller out
South Gallia has been in the Hocking for years. lol

Trimble (3-0),(3-0)
Waterford (2-1),(1-0)
Belpre (3-3),(1-0)
Federal Hocking (1-1),(0-0)
South Gallia (3-1),(0-1)
Southern (0-5),(0-2)
Eastern (0-5),(0-2)

Howie was counting on Athens, Beasts of the Southeast, Coal Grove, Fed Hock x 2 and even Alexander as being his competitive games.

Gotta go to Waterford (traditionally tough)
* Only beat South Gallia by 10 at home. Going to CROWN CITY is always a Challenge.

Be interesting to see if he tries to pick up a solid opponent to replace the Beasts

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:54 pm

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:51 pm

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:45 pm Such a great question I92 and we will find out real quick.

Athens Bulldogs
12/22 @ Meigs
1/5 Vinton County
1/8 River Valley
1/12 Marietta
1/15 @ Alexander
1/16 Trimble
1/23 @ Federal Hocking

If we are playing a pick up game at Grover Center i'd maybe hedge my bet on Fed Hock, just based off their size and athleticism and raw ability. But there is so much more to the high school game than that. How do you place a value on a team like Trimble? So gritty, so well coached, incredibility fundamentally sound. I would not be surprised if the 'Cats swept the Lancers this year - but I also would not be surprised if it went the other way. Vinton County is somewhat similar to Trimble, Matt is such a great game manager and he always has a team of BASKETBALL players who know and understand the game. I'd take Athens horses over the Vikes and definitely have the Dogs as favorites to win the Ohio, but you know how things go when you play in McArthur.

I didn’t see Alexander being very good at all...off to a good start

You'll find out a lot about Alexander and Wellston for that matter Tuesday night.

I have a decent grasp on Wellston

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:55 pm

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:54 pm With Miller, Southern, Eastern being so down Fed Hock and Trimble going to have a lot of uncompetitive games. Waterford and Belpre aren’t strong this year either correct?

Is South Gallia in the Hocking now?

Miller out
South Gallia has been in the Hocking for years. lol

Trimble (3-0),(3-0)
Waterford (2-1),(1-0)
Belpre (3-3),(1-0)
Federal Hocking (1-1),(0-0)
South Gallia (3-1),(0-1)
Southern (0-5),(0-2)
Eastern (0-5),(0-2)

South Gallia will compete ...played Trimble pretty well

Warren napkin stat line from last night's 88-63 win @Caldwell last night:

Pfloyd's official "UN-official" Napkin Stats - Warren

Scoring ... Brayden Sallee 25, Seth Dennis 23, Joel Chevalier 14, Gavin Ott 6, Jake Baumgard 4, Josh Welsch 4, Caleb Davis 3, Hunter Hanes 3, Kurt Taylor 2, Trent Taylor 2, Trenton Dowler 1, Dennis Pettey 1

... the BBB went deep into the bench ... this was a close game as I watched it play out ... Warren trailed 15-19 after 1, Warren up 40-36 at the half, pulled away when Seth Dennis hit back to back to back triples in the 3rd quarter ... Warren 61 Caldwell 52 after 3 qtrs ...

3 Pointers ... 6/15 ... Seth Dennis 3, Caleb Davis 1, Joel Chevalier 1,Hunter Hanes 1
FTs ... 12/25
TOs ... 13
PnP ... 28 fgs /56 points in the paint
PnT ... 5 fgs/10 points in transition
Pbck ... 3 fgs/6 points on putback buckets

... the Warrior D turned the Redskins over 26 times ... Caldwell stayed close going 16/17 from the FT line for the game... Jett Lori led CHS with 23 points including 5 triples ... Bede Lori and Matthew Kowalsky each with 12 points ... Caldwell was 8/17 from beyond the arc ...

pfloyd wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:12 pm Warren napkin stat line from last night's 88-63 win @Caldwell last night:

Pfloyd's official "UN-official" Napkin Stats - Warren

Scoring ... Brayden Sallee 25, Seth Dennis 23, Joel Chevalier 14, Gavin Ott 6, Jake Baumgard 4, Josh Welsch 4, Caleb Davis 3, Hunter Hanes 3, Kurt Taylor 2, Trent Taylor 2, Trenton Dowler 1, Dennis Pettey 1

... the BBB went deep into the bench ... this was a close game as I watched it play out ... Warren trailed 15-19 after 1, Warren up 40-36 at the half, pulled away when Seth Dennis hit back to back to back triples in the 3rd quarter ... Warren 61 Caldwell 52 after 3 qtrs ...

3 Pointers ... 6/15 ... Seth Dennis 3, Caleb Davis 1, Joel Chevalier 1,Hunter Hanes 1
FTs ... 12/25
TOs ... 13
PnP ... 28 fgs /56 points in the paint
PnT ... 5 fgs/10 points in transition
Pbck ... 3 fgs/6 points on putback buckets

... the Warrior D turned the Redskins over 26 times ... Caldwell stayed close going 16/17 from the FT line for the game... Jett Lori led CHS with 23 points including 5 triples ... Bede Lori and Matthew Kowalsky each with 12 points ... Caldwell was 8/17 from beyond the arc ...

Brennen Perdue playing for Warren?

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:51 pm

93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:45 pm Such a great question I92 and we will find out real quick.

Athens Bulldogs
12/22 @ Meigs
1/5 Vinton County
1/8 River Valley
1/12 Marietta
1/15 @ Alexander
1/16 Trimble
1/23 @ Federal Hocking

If we are playing a pick up game at Grover Center i'd maybe hedge my bet on Fed Hock, just based off their size and athleticism and raw ability. But there is so much more to the high school game than that. How do you place a value on a team like Trimble? So gritty, so well coached, incredibility fundamentally sound. I would not be surprised if the 'Cats swept the Lancers this year - but I also would not be surprised if it went the other way. Vinton County is somewhat similar to Trimble, Matt is such a great game manager and he always has a team of BASKETBALL players who know and understand the game. I'd take Athens horses over the Vikes and definitely have the Dogs as favorites to win the Ohio, but you know how things go when you play in McArthur.

I didn’t see Alexander being very good at all...off to a good start

Meigs is below Alex a good bit, even though they beat Alex by double digits?