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Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:24 am
by Falconfan14
Something i have never seen before in a High School level basketball game. 1st half Minford player gets fouled while shooting and ball goes in. Officials call 2 shots. Player makes 1st foul shot. Everyone in the gym thinks he is only shooting 1. Several players even transition to other end for defense. Officials huddle. Decide to keep it 2 shots, I guess because none of them saw the ball go in like everyone else in the gym.
2nd half Minford player drives gets fouled while shooting a layup. Ball does not go in but officials call bucket good but no one realizes they called it good. Score keeper does not put bucket on board. Player makes 1st foul shot. Players waiting for foul shot #2. Officials say it is Alexander ball before player shoots second foul shot because they think he made the initial shot. Officials huddle. I guess this time they all think the initial shot went in. they go to the scorekeeper. 2 points added to Minford score. The ALEXANDER COACH GOES OFF. WOULD HAVE PROBABLY KILLED THE REF HAD HIS ASSISTANT NOT BASICALLY TACKLED HIM AND PULLED HIM TO THE END OF THE BENCH. ALEXANDER COACH THEN TRHOWS WHATEVER WAS IN HIS HAND TOWARD THE END OF THE COURT. LUCKILY HE DIDNT HIT ANYONE BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE DIRECTION OF WHATEVER HE THREW. NO TECHNICAL GIVEN.
HOW CAN 3 OFFICIALS AT THE VARSITY LEVEL MISS THIS CALL 2X IN ONE GAME!!!! HOPE THESE 3 WOULD NEVER BE CONSIDERED FOR TOURNEY PLAY.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:30 am
by Chieftain2009
High school officials are not typically the best. But I've never heard of something like this.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:00 am
by pfloyd
I was surprised that the Alexander coach didn't get AT LEAST 1 technical for his behavior - however he WAS CORRECT the shot didn't go in by the Minford player ... no technical there BUT the official called a technical on a Minford player who got hammered under the basket on a drive ... interesting night officiating wise in the Alley tonight LOL ...

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Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:32 am
by spartans_fan
There were some missed calls in Albany for sure. I don't think it changed the outcome of the game, but seeing whether the ball went in the basket or not seems pretty important. Seems like on this night it all balanced out as one basket was not counted that should have been and one was counted that never went in the basket.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:33 pm
by formerfcfan
If either team records the game for film purposes, I would have someone chop video clips of the incidents in question and send them to the evaluators or reffing association. The point shouldn't be to impugn officials, rather, convey to them to be mindful of this (again). Some things are obvious to the lay people / fans, but in the heat of the game and if you're in the stripes its easy to overlook the obvious thing. I'm sure none of you have ever made a mistake before.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:33 pm
by Raider6309
My favorite was Ryan Luehrman got fouled and the player got a T for cussing at the ref. Burrow shot all four foul shots. This was in a tied overtime game against Lucasville Valley.

But sounds like these refs were bad both ways

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:26 pm
by mhs95_06
Isn't that the epitome of a "make-up" call? After a delay, but yet "tit for tat"!

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:29 pm
by formerfcfan
There is zero place in the game for "make-up calls". That just damages the integrity of the game and those who do genuinely give 100% wearing the stripes.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:25 pm
by minford17
I am still amazed that Albany 's coach didn't get a technical foul for his foul language, object throwing, verbal threatening tirade. He should have been given a double technical and shown the door to listen to 93bulldog the rest of the game.

It totally amazed me that the coach received no technical, but Rowe received a very quick technical after no foul was called when he got hammered on a layup attempt.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:32 pm
by Farmer86
Who were the refs?

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:33 pm
by spartans_fan
minford17 wrote:I am still amazed that Albany 's coach didn't get a technical foul for his foul language, object throwing, verbal threatening tirade. He should have been given a double technical and shown the door to listen to 93bulldog the rest of the game.

It totally amazed me that the coach received no technical, but Rowe received a very quick technical after no foul was called when he got hammered on a layup attempt.
I am not sure how close you were to the bench, but from where I was sitting, there was not any foul language used at all. I agree a technical foul was warranted for the tirade.

Besides the two questionable baskets made or missed, I thought the game was officiated well.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:03 pm
by 93Bulldog
The refs did a pretty good job for the most part, it was a physical game & they let the kids play. Those make for the best games as a fan. Did a mishap occur before Kearns got upset? I think so, my scorebook did not match up with the scoreboard. But, those things happen from time to time.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:49 am
by Flock_92
The game was weird from top to bottom. It was an obvious make up call when they missed counting the basket and then counted the basket that didn't go in. It was my understanding that the Alexander coach never used foul language, although it was insane that he didn't get at least one technical for his tirade. The weird part of the game started when the varsity game and most of the jv game was going on, a lot of Alexander fans were sitting on the visitors side and the cheerleaders for Alexander never cheered to the home stands. It was confusing as to whether I was sitting on the correct side of the gym or not. Not a big deal just weird. The officials mishaps didn't affect the outcome of the game IMO.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:59 am
by thebarlowbandit
Well, he wasn't nearly as upset when he was the benefit of the points NOT going on the board.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:29 pm
by Falconfan14
Alexander did outplay Minford and Im not suggesting that Minford would have won but it looks bad when the more physical team- Alexander shoots 30 foul shots and Minford shoots 13 then they don't give the Alexander coach a T for the way he acted.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:30 pm
by Valenth
The OHSAA needs to look into this..

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:28 pm
by spartans_fan
Falconfan14 wrote:Alexander did outplay Minford and Im not suggesting that Minford would have won but it looks bad when the more physical team- Alexander shoots 30 foul shots and Minford shoots 13 then they don't give the Alexander coach a T for the way he acted.
Minford was fouling to stop the clock for the last four minutes of the game. Alexander was hitting their free throws and then getting stops.
Flock_92 wrote:The game was weird from top to bottom. It was an obvious make up call when they missed counting the basket and then counted the basket that didn't go in. It was my understanding that the Alexander coach never used foul language, although it was insane that he didn't get at least one technical for his tirade. The weird part of the game started when the varsity game and most of the jv game was going on, a lot of Alexander fans were sitting on the visitors side and the cheerleaders for Alexander never cheered to the home stands. It was confusing as to whether I was sitting on the correct side of the gym or not. Not a big deal just weird. The officials mishaps didn't affect the outcome of the game IMO.
There really is not a home side and a visitors side in the Alley. That is just part of what makes games there so exciting. You mix in the band, the students, the open end and it is a fun night of entertainment.

Good luck to Minford the rest of the season.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:15 pm
by Flock_92
spartans_fan wrote:
Falconfan14 wrote:Alexander did outplay Minford and Im not suggesting that Minford would have won but it looks bad when the more physical team- Alexander shoots 30 foul shots and Minford shoots 13 then they don't give the Alexander coach a T for the way he acted.
Minford was fouling to stop the clock for the last four minutes of the game. Alexander was hitting their free throws and then getting stops.
Flock_92 wrote:The game was weird from top to bottom. It was an obvious make up call when they missed counting the basket and then counted the basket that didn't go in. It was my understanding that the Alexander coach never used foul language, although it was insane that he didn't get at least one technical for his tirade. The weird part of the game started when the varsity game and most of the jv game was going on, a lot of Alexander fans were sitting on the visitors side and the cheerleaders for Alexander never cheered to the home stands. It was confusing as to whether I was sitting on the correct side of the gym or not. Not a big deal just weird. The officials mishaps didn't affect the outcome of the game IMO.
There really is not a home side and a visitors side in the Alley. That is just part of what makes games there so exciting. You mix in the band, the students, the open end and it is a fun night of entertainment.

Good luck to Minford the rest of the season.

Spartans_fan Thanks for the clarification on the seating arrangements and good luck to Alexander the rest of the season.

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:39 pm
by Binary
Was it those danged "Glouster refs?"

Re: Officials at Albany Alexander 12/12

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:29 pm
by Vc123
Here a lot about the refs at Alexander and the student section if they were so many complaints wouldn't the athletic director or someone try to fix them or at least address them if they were a problem? I am not saying they are problems just here alot of negative things. I personally have a lot of respect for the boys basketball team they are a well coached team that play hard and with a lot of discipline.