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Scoring 1000 points-Is it that hard to achieve anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:00 am
by yabbadabbadoo
If you start as a Sophomore and you play 25 games, 22 regular season and a minimum of 3 tournament games, you only have to average 13.4 points a game for those three years worth of games.
If you are a decent player I just don't think that is hard to achieve. With the 3 point shot just doesn't seem like a big deal
Now scoring 2000 points would be quite the feat. You would then have to average 26.8 points per game over that same time period.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:09 am
by Jumper45
yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:00 am
If you start as a Sophomore and you play 25 games, 22 regular season and a minimum of 3 tournament games, you only have to average 13.4 points a game for those three years worth of games.
If you are a decent player I just don't think that is hard to achieve. With the 3 point shot just doesn't seem like a big deal
Now scoring 2000 points would be quite the feat. You would then have to average 26.8 points per game over that same time period.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Back in the day before the 3 pt line and only playing 18 regular season games is much more impressive scoring over a 1000 than it is now for the reasons you stated
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:21 am
by Jumper45
Jumper45 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:09 am
yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:00 am
If you start as a Sophomore and you play 25 games, 22 regular season and a minimum of 3 tournament games, you only have to average 13.4 points a game for those three years worth of games.
If you are a decent player I just don't think that is hard to achieve. With the 3 point shot just doesn't seem like a big deal
Now scoring 2000 points would be quite the feat. You would then have to average 26.8 points per game over that same time period.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Back in the day before the 3 pt line and only playing 18 regular season games is much more impressive scoring over a 1000 than it is now for the reasons you stated. I would also add that there used to be only A and AA. Much tougher schedule and harder to advance in tournament play compared to 4 divisions now and going to 7 next year. Watered down big time but we all know thats about money for OHSAA.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:22 am
by Jason Vorhees
I still think it’s a feat that should be recognized. It’s not as big of a deal since the increased incorporation of the 3 point line in team offenses these days.
You look at Roberts from South Webster or Shoemaker from Minford getting a 1000 points before they’re Seniors, that’s huge.
Quite a few of the 2,000 point scorers in Ohio were a part of an era long gone. Some of them did it in the 1950’s-1960’s era. Here’s just a few:
Rex Leach (1951-55)
Larry Huston (1951-55)
Jerry Lucas (1955-58)
Allen Hornyak (1965-1969)
Adrian Hayes (1948-1952)
The List for SE Ohio is an even shorter list for 2,000:
Dante Jackson-Greenfield McLain-2,423
Beau Justice- Peebles-2,370
Trey Robertson- Waverly- 2,207
Adrian Hayes- Oak Hill- 2,186
Nick Aldridge- South Webster- 2,034
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:00 pm
by ohbuckeye2
I’m sure it’s a big deal for the players who hit that milestone.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:12 pm
by BallDontLie
Jason Vorhees wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:22 am
I still think it’s a feat that should be recognized. It’s not as big of a deal since the increased incorporation of the 3 point line in team offenses these days.
You look at Roberts from South Webster or Shoemaker from Minford getting a 1000 points before they’re Seniors, that’s huge.
Quite a few of the 2,000 point scorers in Ohio were a part of an era long gone. Some of them did it in the 1950’s-1960’s era. Here’s just a few:
Rex Leach (1951-55)
Larry Huston (1951-55)
Jerry Lucas (1955-58)
Allen Hornyak (1965-1969)
Adrian Hayes (1948-1952)
The List for SE Ohio is an even shorter list for 2,000:
Dante Jackson-Greenfield McLain-2,423
Beau Justice- Peebles-2,370
Trey Robertson- Waverly- 2,207
Adrian Hayes- Oak Hill- 2,186
Nick Aldridge- South Webster- 2,034
Blake Justice of Peebles and Paul Cluxton of Lynchburg-Clay both also scored over 2000 for their career. Blake’s teams never won a district title and Paul’s teams never went on a significant tournament run until his senior year in 1992-1993 when LC went to the final four. Very small list of 2000. Ironically enough, Blake passed Paul for the then all time points record in the SHAC, against LC his senior year.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:33 pm
by boss8
Still not a lot of kids doing it, so still an impressive feat. Not many kids average double figures for 3+ years. Why do we have to try and diminish kids’ accomplishments?
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:41 pm
by Sweater poorly knit
It’s still a great accomplishment. More than one way to skin a cat, you still have to be able to make the shots you’re taking.
Teams do seem to produce a 1000 point scorer every few years which certainly wasn’t the case a decade ago.
We have to be careful not to be the old guys that complain about “kids today.”
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:53 pm
by Pinwheel
yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:00 am
If you start as a Sophomore and you play 25 games, 22 regular season and a minimum of 3 tournament games, you only have to average 13.4 points a game for those three years worth of games.
If you are a decent player I just don't think that is hard to achieve. With the 3 point shot just doesn't seem like a big deal
Now scoring 2000 points would be quite the feat. You would then have to average 26.8 points per game over that same time period.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Just as big as deal as reaching your 1,00 step marching and playing the flute snoote
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:10 pm
by GoBigI
Not all players are included in this statement, but the 1,000 point milestone has caused some players to put individual accomplishments before playing winning team basketball. Great goal to set, but it shouldn’t be given the attention it is. It takes away from team accomplishments.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:48 pm
by BigBlueNation
I think some places it's a bigger deal than others. Several schools have had several kids reach the milestone. Then there's schools that haven't had but a few kids get there. Take Northwest for instance before this season they only had 3 boys reach it. Earlier this season Connor Lintz got his and Tanner Bolin will most likely get his this week. Those 2 youngmen set goals as kids to get 1000 after seeing Drew Scarberry get his. So I think it is a great accomplishment to reach 1000. It's definitely will be great to have 2 the same season.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:57 pm
by danicalifornia
If we were getting dozens getting it each week of the season, then I’d say it isn’t. But, we aren’t seeing a crazy amount of kids getting it, so I’m still impressed by it.
I’m more impressed when a kid gets it in their junior season or early in the senior year, especially with more games now, but it’s still a few more than I scored.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:55 pm
by DUNK1
No. But taking 1,000 charges is a huge milestone. And winning 600 as a coach is a whole different level. How many can say they’ve done that? Furthermore having your strategy for putting the fear of you know what into the refs given a name that everyone recognizes (the STOMP) is beyond anything else.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:02 pm
by packers80
BigBlueNation wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:48 pm
I think some places it's a bigger deal than others. Several schools have had several kids reach the milestone. Then there's schools that haven't had but a few kids get there. Take Northwest for instance before this season they only had 3 boys reach it. Earlier this season Connor Lintz got his and Tanner Bolin will most likely get his this week. Those 2 youngmen set goals as kids to get 1000 after seeing Drew Scarberry get his. So I think it is a great accomplishment to reach 1000. It's definitely will be great to have 2 the same season.
That's very cool.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:11 pm
by Ed Ott
Jason Vorhees wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:22 am
I still think it’s a feat that should be recognized. It’s not as big of a deal since the increased incorporation of the 3 point line in team offenses these days.
You look at Roberts from South Webster or Shoemaker from Minford getting a 1000 points before they’re Seniors, that’s huge.
Quite a few of the 2,000 point scorers in Ohio were a part of an era long gone. Some of them did it in the 1950’s-1960’s era. Here’s just a few:
Rex Leach (1951-55)
Larry Huston (1951-55)
Jerry Lucas (1955-58)
Allen Hornyak (1965-1969)
Adrian Hayes (1948-1952)
The List for SE Ohio is an even shorter list for 2,000:
Dante Jackson-Greenfield McLain-2,423
Beau Justice- Peebles-2,370
Trey Robertson- Waverly- 2,207
Adrian Hayes- Oak Hill- 2,186
Nick Aldridge- South Webster- 2,034
Didn’t Brett Justice surpass 2000?
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:08 am
by yabbadabbadoo
Pinwheel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:53 pm
yabbadabbadoo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:00 am
If you start as a Sophomore and you play 25 games, 22 regular season and a minimum of 3 tournament games, you only have to average 13.4 points a game for those three years worth of games.
If you are a decent player I just don't think that is hard to achieve. With the 3 point shot just doesn't seem like a big deal
Now scoring 2000 points would be quite the feat. You would then have to average 26.8 points per game over that same time period.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Just as big as deal as reaching your 1,00 step marching and playing the flute snoote
Funny how a guy with the name of pinwheel is making a band joke! I guess we know who was in the band now don't we!!
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:06 am
by mlittle
You can see it a few different ways. But it’s tough to average 22 reg season games and 3 tournament games every year. Tons of teams only playing 1 game in the post season. A lot has to go right still for a kid to reach that milestone. They have to be good enough to start varsity at the freshman or sophomore level. They also have to stay healthy. Neither of those are easy. And I don’t care what anyone says, the way games are officiated today makes it much tougher to score the basketball. Everyone always wants to argue how much more physical the game was back in the 80’s and 90’s. But people were playing with backs to the basket a lot more so lots of banging in that sense, but as far as difficulty in scoring with how much physicality is allowed in todays game I think it’s actually harder to score now. This is definitely an achievement that I personally think still needs celebrating
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:22 am
by The Ghost of Swanker
If you look at some of these schools gyms with 1000pt scorers on a banner. Most of them don’t have very many at all. And you’re talking about records going back to at least the 20’s and 30’s usually. So yes it is a big deal still.
Unless you’re a Jeep then it’s just business as usual
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:06 am
by trojandave
Portsmouth only has 12 players who have scored at least 1,000 points and who played only at Portsmouth HS. There are 2 others who attained 1,000 points and played at 2 schools. Kenny Sanderlin and Andrew Bendolph, both of whom played at Wheelersburg and Portsmouth.
In the history of Portsmouth HS basketball, getting 1,000 points is quite an achievement if one were to consider the competition that the Trojans have played down through the years. Also consider that Larry Hisle (1965), Craig Tubbs (1979), and Jeff Lisath (1978) did not have the benefit of the 3 point line.
Re: Scoring 1000 points-Is it that big of deal anymore?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:07 pm
by alabama mike
IMO, I still think it is a big deal to reach 1,000 points in your high school career. Best wishes to Tanner Bolin from NW, he should pass the mark this week, guessing Wednesday night.