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Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:52 pm
by radiodavel
Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions
https://statelinesportsnetwork.net/2024 ... -divisions

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:54 pm
by pfloyd
imo - THIS needs to have a vote of ALL 819 schools across the state ... not simply 9 board of directors making the decision ... being in the SE District, we have been "sheet on" by the OHSAA over and over again by their "Board of Director" votes ... IF this IS "as they say" in the best interest of the student athletes/students at the schools - ALLOW the voice of the schools heard ... if the majority is comfortable with it - so be it ... big difference between the majority of 9 vs the majority of 819 ...

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:40 am
by jose
pfloyd wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:54 pm imo - THIS needs to have a vote of ALL 819 schools across the state ... not simply 9 board of directors making the decision ... being in the SE District, we have been "sheet on" by the OHSAA over and over again by their "Board of Director" votes ... IF this IS "as they say" in the best interest of the student athletes/students at the schools - ALLOW the voice of the schools heard ... if the majority is comfortable with it - so be it ... big difference between the majority of 9 vs the majority of 819 ...
I think most agree there needs to be more divisions in basketball and baseball. 7 might be to many-5 would be ideal. There is no way Chillicothe and Logan can compete in D1 in Basketball and Baseball. To big of a discrepancy in numbers.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:12 am
by trojandave
Jose is right about D1. It needs to be split up. Absolutely unfair for small D1's to compete against giant D1's. Almost 1,000 boys difference is some cases in D1.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:43 pm
by pfloyd
I totally understand the D1 issue , heck I live the D1 issue as I teach at Logan High School, I coached WITH the issue of playing vs schools with numbers out distancing us by that 1000 boys for 19 yrs. ... all I am saying is that ALL 819 schools should cast a vote yes or no on the expansion of divisions ...

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:03 pm
by BigBlueNation
pfloyd wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:43 pm I totally understand the D1 issue , heck I live the D1 issue as I teach at Logan High School, I coached WITH the issue of playing vs schools with numbers out distancing us by that 1000 boys for 19 yrs. ... all I am saying is that ALL 819 schools should cast a vote yes or no on the expansion of divisions ...
It should most definitely be voted on by the 819 schools.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:23 pm
by Coach SLegg
I'd go back to 3 divisions and divide the 3 Classes evenly.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:09 am
by baseball16
OH$AA is one of the most corrupt organizations we have in Ohio and America! 7 Divisions will be handed out for one reason and one reason only..
More $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the non profit organization. smh

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:18 am
by jose
baseball16 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:09 am OH$AA is one of the most corrupt organizations we have in Ohio and America! 7 Divisions will be handed out for one reason and one reason only..
More $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the non profit organization. smh
Would agree with you on this most of the time but this issue-I don't. Like I said 5 would be best solution in my opinion.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:09 pm
by trojandave
I don't like the idea of the smaller schools voting to determine the fate of the D1 schools. They're not in a small D1's situation. Easy for them to cast a vote and not worry about what happens in D1.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:57 am
by baseball16
OH$AA should go to 5 Divisions for all PUBLIC schools and then add a separate division for Private schools (Divide it into 2 divisions if you like).

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:09 am
by trampoline
baseball16 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:09 am OH$AA is one of the most corrupt organizations we have in Ohio and America! 7 Divisions will be handed out for one reason and one reason only..
More $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the non profit organization. smh
This is also evidenced by the fact that they absolutely refuse to deal with the corrupt religious schools that ruin the tourny every single year. Too much money at stake.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:50 am
by jose
Saw a breakdown. Of schools currently in D1/D2 se district looks like there will be 5 going to D3-probably will have to combine with the East. The rest would move to D4 or D5

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:19 am
by muskiefan11
Here is the PowerPoint be used for the Regional Meetings the OHSAA has been having. Interesting read.

https://ohsaaweb.blob.core.windows.net/ ... entPPT.pdf

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:22 am
by jose
muskiefan11 wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:19 am Here is the PowerPoint be used for the Regional Meetings the OHSAA has been having. Interesting read.

https://ohsaaweb.blob.core.windows.net/ ... entPPT.pdf
Looks like the schools in D3 would be Athens, Logan, Chillicothe, Marietta and Miami Trace. Will probably have to combine with possibly the East for tournament.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:37 am
by Fatdog
Is Competitive Balance still going to be factored into schools numbers? I just glanced through the Powerpoint and didn’t notice anything.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:41 am
by muskiefan11
Fatdog wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:37 am Is Competitive Balance still going to be factored into schools numbers? I just glanced through the Powerpoint and didn’t notice anything.
Yes, division assignments will be determined by enrollment including Competitive Balance.

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:43 am
by muskiefan11
jose wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:22 am
muskiefan11 wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:19 am Here is the PowerPoint be used for the Regional Meetings the OHSAA has been having. Interesting read.

https://ohsaaweb.blob.core.windows.net/ ... entPPT.pdf
Looks like the schools in D3 would be Athens, Logan, Chillicothe, Marietta and Miami Trace. Will probably have to combine with possibly the East for tournament.
It will be interesting to see how brackets will be split. Seems like some of those district numbers per division will be difficult to maintain separate district brackets that feed into each regional.

Will be interested as to how they manipulate districts. For example looking at D4 and using the current D2 regional makeup here’s how it would look:

Athens Regional: 41 Teams (All East/SE and 1/2 of Central)

Dayton Regional: 31 Teams (All SW and 1/2 Central)

BG Regional: 31 Teams (All NW and 1/5 NE)

Canton Regional: 31 Teams (4/5 NE)

Would this division expansion lead to the creation of 4 regions per division like Football??

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:42 pm
by GoBucks1047
I don't like 7 divisions, but I'm okay the idea of 2 reduced top divisions. Something I'd like to see is have an 80 team D1 and D2, then D3-D6 with 160 teams. This allows for 10 team districts (8 districts for D1 & D2 instead of 16). If D1 is too big, I could see 64 and 96 instead as an alternative.

D1: 561-1300
D2: 401-560
(Need to look up what D3-D6 would look like when I get a chance)

Re: Ute And 9 OHSAA Board Of Directors To Decide Possible Additional Divisions

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:59 pm
by GoBucks1047
So looked into the small D1 & D2, 6 division format more as opposed to the small D1 & D2, 7 division format and currently.

Currently:
D1 346-1300 (198)
D2 193-345 (201)
D3 121-192 (201)
D4 16-120 (200)

80 x2/160 x4:
D1 561-1300 (80)
D2 401-560 (80)
D3 243-400 (158)
D4 164-242 (159)
D5 107-163 (161)
D6 16-106 (161)

72 x2/164 x4:
D1 608-1300 (72)
D2 434-607 (72)
D3 251-433 (163)
D4 166-250 (164)
D5 109-165 (165)
D6 16-108 (163)

64 x2/168 x4:
D1 638-1300 (64)
D2 457-637 (64)
D3 257-456 (167)
D4 168-256 (167)
D5 111-167 (168)
D6 16-110 (169)

64 x2/134 x5:
D1 638-1300 (64)
D2 457-637 (64)
D3 282-456 (132)
D4 194-281 (133)
D5 143-193 (135)
D6 99-142 (135)
D7 16-98 (136)