TVC hocking predictions?

[Spiderjon]

Size and shot selection hurt the Lancers tonight. Big win for Belpre and Coach Cunningham. It should be a fun game at Waterford when Belpre visits on 12/19. Congrats to the Golden Eagles.

[BEBETTER]

Belpre beat Federal and didn't play their best game. Once they learn to take care of the ball and value their possessions, they will be even better than they were tonight. Alloway and Bills being as versatile as they are makes it tough to be pressed. They are learning to play with each other more and more over time and this will continue to improve. They are a dynamic duo but are not alone on this team. They have a great cast of role players that are doing their jobs. The Carmichael girl was fantastic tonight even after an early injury and then returning to the game. Great job ladies and congrats to the coaching staff! GREAT WIN!!

[dboy]

Good win for Belpre. I think they are a very good team and could pose problems for teams moving forward. Belpre does have an edge on the inside but I wouldn't say they beat us with size. The Lancers just have to do a better job with rotations in the press and in the half court. Gave up a lot of points in the paint but that is typical with a pressure team due to the layups that are sacrificed to get the pace more up tempo. Coaches will get the kinks worked out and get back on track. As far as the Belpre - Waterford game, I am not sure it will be all that fun.

[dboy]

Lancers gave up a lot of point again but get a comfortable win over Southern. Waterford beat Eastern, not sure if the score I saw was right on not but it didn't seem very bad. Waterford gets Belpre this week which could be interesting. I still think something is off with the Wildcats and there may be something to this granddaughter thing but i still like Waterford to win that game. Lancers get Trimble on Thursday and then a quick turnaround for the Warren game. The big test will be next week with Harvest Prep.

[SEOsportchamp23]

Lancers gave up a lot of point again but get a comfortable win over Southern. Waterford beat Eastern, not sure if the score I saw was right on not but it didn't seem very bad. Waterford gets Belpre this week which could be interesting. I still think something is off with the Wildcats and there may be something to this granddaughter thing but i still like Waterford to win that game. Lancers get Trimble on Thursday and then a quick turnaround for the Warren game. The big test will be next week with Harvest Prep.

Agree with you on the Waterford thing. Something is off. Probably the missing assistant coach. Game prep isn’t the same. And the 3 seniors seem to play well but they don’t have a 5 player lineup that plays with ease. Those three are really good but it seems like they are just missing something.
Their two games - Trimble and eastern- looked like they were lost. Chemistry is off when certain players are on the floor. Not a typical Waterford team that can sub in off the bench and not have a change in play or tempo. The last 3-4 years they have had 2-3 players that could come in and the game plan didn’t change. This year they don’t have that. It slows down if anything. Which is not typical for Waterford.

Against Trimble- they rotated in a bunch of bench but nothing seemed to flow. At eastern - Sury was out and they were definitely off. Not sure what is happening but I think tomorrow vs belpre will be a good one.

Fed Hock vs Warren will be a good game. Lancers are moving in the right direction.

[Spiderjon]

Lancers gave up a lot of point again but get a comfortable win over Southern. Waterford beat Eastern, not sure if the score I saw was right on not but it didn't seem very bad. Waterford gets Belpre this week which could be interesting. I still think something is off with the Wildcats and there may be something to this granddaughter thing but i still like Waterford to win that game. Lancers get Trimble on Thursday and then a quick turnaround for the Warren game. The big test will be next week with Harvest Prep.

The score at Eastern could have been much much worse, even with Sr guard Sury not suiting up for the Wildcats. The cats only gave up 6 pts in the last 20minutes of the game. Coach close played 12+ players and had multiple fast break opportunities where they would pull it out and set up their offense. The younger girls are gaining some much needed experience playing against varsity competition. Same situation @ Trimble....

I think most people on this forum are reading way too much into the granddaughter situation, shes a solid player-doesn't do anything special but she also doesn't hurt them too much when she is on the floor. I say she and Hartline get as much playing time now in these blowouts and TVC games to gain the experience they will need to help this team get back to Dayton. Also, those who think Hurley or her mom are a distraction, ask this question......if Close wants his granddaughter to be All TVC and is ONLY playing her out of pure favortism (So Mommy isn't upset), Why then is a freshman transfer player starting over said granddaughter?

I think the matchup tomorrow night between Waterford and Belpre could be a very good TVC Hocking game. Both teams come in undefeated in league play. Belpre can match the Wildcats with their size and athletism inside the paint but I think this game comes down to guard play. I think Sury/Malec/Pottmeyer can speed up the Belpre guards and cause turnovers. Belpre's guards have to stay out of foul trouble and knock down big shots to keep them in it for 4 quarters. I am looking forward to the matchup between Wagner and Bills. Bills is a relentless hustler, crashes the boards hard, has quick hands, can handle the ball and shoots a true jump shot from 12 feet and in. You really don't see many true jump shots anymore, boys or girls. I can see Smithberger and Bills matching up some as well, both Smithberger and Bills are cut from the same clothe. Hard worker, does the dirty work, fun to watch. Alloway can knock down 3s and take the ball to the basket and finish with either hand.

Wildcats 54
Belpre 42

[Spiderjon]

Lancers gave up a lot of point again but get a comfortable win over Southern. Waterford beat Eastern, not sure if the score I saw was right on not but it didn't seem very bad. Waterford gets Belpre this week which could be interesting. I still think something is off with the Wildcats and there may be something to this granddaughter thing but i still like Waterford to win that game. Lancers get Trimble on Thursday and then a quick turnaround for the Warren game. The big test will be next week with Harvest Prep.

Agree with you on the Waterford thing. Something is off. Probably the missing assistant coach. Game prep isn’t the same. And the 3 seniors seem to play well but they don’t have a 5 player lineup that plays with ease. Those three are really good but it seems like they are just missing something.
Their two games - Trimble and eastern- looked like they were lost. Chemistry is off when certain players are on the floor. Not a typical Waterford team that can sub in off the bench and not have a change in play or tempo. The last 3-4 years they have had 2-3 players that could come in and the game plan didn’t change. This year they don’t have that. It slows down if anything. Which is not typical for Waterford.

Against Trimble- they rotated in a bunch of bench but nothing seemed to flow. At eastern - Sury was out and they were definitely off. Not sure what is happening but I think tomorrow vs belpre will be a good one.

Fed Hock vs Warren will be a good game. Lancers are moving in the right direction.

The Wildcats only played 7 girls in their 2016 State championship (one of those 7 only played 2 minutes), and in the 2022 State championship win, coach Close only played 6 girls in the second half and 7 total in that game. He, like most coaches, shorten up the bench in big games. Playing those he 100% trusts can get the job done. Last years team (state runner up) basically had 6 players in the rotation, injury and circumstance were the only reason the freshman played in the state championship game.

The bench is young and inexperienced, Malec is the only underclassman with true varsity experience. The Wildcats are basically putting a JV team on the floor vs Trimble and Eastern's Varsity teams. The JVs are beating these varsity teams! They only gave up 33 points in those 2 games combined. Now is the time to get them on the floor to learn--Hurley and Hartline should be on the floor as much as possible.

[dboy]

Lancers gave up a lot of point again but get a comfortable win over Southern. Waterford beat Eastern, not sure if the score I saw was right on not but it didn't seem very bad. Waterford gets Belpre this week which could be interesting. I still think something is off with the Wildcats and there may be something to this granddaughter thing but i still like Waterford to win that game. Lancers get Trimble on Thursday and then a quick turnaround for the Warren game. The big test will be next week with Harvest Prep.

The score at Eastern could have been much much worse, even with Sr guard Sury not suiting up for the Wildcats. The cats only gave up 6 pts in the last 20minutes of the game. Coach close played 12+ players and had multiple fast break opportunities where they would pull it out and set up their offense. The younger girls are gaining some much needed experience playing against varsity competition. Same situation @ Trimble....

I think most people on this forum are reading way too much into the granddaughter situation, shes a solid player-doesn't do anything special but she also doesn't hurt them too much when she is on the floor. I say she and Hartline get as much playing time now in these blowouts and TVC games to gain the experience they will need to help this team get back to Dayton. Also, those who think Hurley or her mom are a distraction, ask this question......if Close wants his granddaughter to be All TVC and is ONLY playing her out of pure favortism (So Mommy isn't upset), Why then is a freshman transfer player starting over said granddaughter?

I think the matchup tomorrow night between Waterford and Belpre could be a very good TVC Hocking game. Both teams come in undefeated in league play. Belpre can match the Wildcats with their size and athletism inside the paint but I think this game comes down to guard play. I think Sury/Malec/Pottmeyer can speed up the Belpre guards and cause turnovers. Belpre's guards have to stay out of foul trouble and knock down big shots to keep them in it for 4 quarters. I am looking forward to the matchup between Wagner and Bills. Bills is a relentless hustler, crashes the boards hard, has quick hands, can handle the ball and shoots a true jump shot from 12 feet and in. You really don't see many true jump shots anymore, boys or girls. I can see Smithberger and Bills matching up some as well, both Smithberger and Bills are cut from the same clothe. Hard worker, does the dirty work, fun to watch. Alloway can knock down 3s and take the ball to the basket and finish with either hand.

Wildcats 54
Belpre 42

Spider - You seem to be close to the situation there and i am curious about your take on Hilverding not being there. When you played in Stewart there seemed to be some discontent with parents about him not being there (regardless of why) and that Close was not going to budge on the situation. Talking to some coaches, ours included, they seemed to think Hilverding made Close better and the two made a great team. Sounded as though he could teach and game plan with anyone and that allowed Close to coach the game which he is good at. Do you think losing him has affected them? We see them a few times a year and you obviously are there more so i think you might have more insight.

[SEOsportchamp23]

Lancers gave up a lot of point again but get a comfortable win over Southern. Waterford beat Eastern, not sure if the score I saw was right on not but it didn't seem very bad. Waterford gets Belpre this week which could be interesting. I still think something is off with the Wildcats and there may be something to this granddaughter thing but i still like Waterford to win that game. Lancers get Trimble on Thursday and then a quick turnaround for the Warren game. The big test will be next week with Harvest Prep.

The score at Eastern could have been much much worse, even with Sr guard Sury not suiting up for the Wildcats. The cats only gave up 6 pts in the last 20minutes of the game. Coach close played 12+ players and had multiple fast break opportunities where they would pull it out and set up their offense. The younger girls are gaining some much needed experience playing against varsity competition. Same situation @ Trimble....

I think most people on this forum are reading way too much into the granddaughter situation, shes a solid player-doesn't do anything special but she also doesn't hurt them too much when she is on the floor. I say she and Hartline get as much playing time now in these blowouts and TVC games to gain the experience they will need to help this team get back to Dayton. Also, those who think Hurley or her mom are a distraction, ask this question......if Close wants his granddaughter to be All TVC and is ONLY playing her out of pure favortism (So Mommy isn't upset), Why then is a freshman transfer player starting over said granddaughter?

I think the matchup tomorrow night between Waterford and Belpre could be a very good TVC Hocking game. Both teams come in undefeated in league play. Belpre can match the Wildcats with their size and athletism inside the paint but I think this game comes down to guard play. I think Sury/Malec/Pottmeyer can speed up the Belpre guards and cause turnovers. Belpre's guards have to stay out of foul trouble and knock down big shots to keep them in it for 4 quarters. I am looking forward to the matchup between Wagner and Bills. Bills is a relentless hustler, crashes the boards hard, has quick hands, can handle the ball and shoots a true jump shot from 12 feet and in. You really don't see many true jump shots anymore, boys or girls. I can see Smithberger and Bills matching up some as well, both Smithberger and Bills are cut from the same clothe. Hard worker, does the dirty work, fun to watch. Alloway can knock down 3s and take the ball to the basket and finish with either hand.

Wildcats 54
Belpre 42

I think you have made a lot of good points here. Close has been able to play these younger players in these TVC matchups and get some quality minutes out of them.
Obviously he wants his starting lineup to be smoother and play better but he also is smart enough to know this season is long and he will need his bench come post season.
Freshman starter is definitely a little more refined ball handling and has the speed to keep up with the experienced starters. You can tell she hasn’t played with caliber players like the other 4. She is growing as a player. I’ve seen her play twice now and from the 1st time to now she has improved. Still makes mistakes and will as she is learning but drastic improvement. Hartline and Hurley need more time on the court. That’s the only way they will transition well. And knowing their role on the court. And these games are helping with that. The unioto game they saw limited time - I would say the starters played the most. But again- experience in big games helps post season.

All of the starting 5 can bring the ball up- most impressive is Wagner and with her size- she does a great job. Smithberger and Sury have speed and length which is even better. Add in the freshman and Malec with their darty speed - they really play with 5 guards. (3 with significant size). And when they play well- they play really well.

Waterford has been known for speed and their defense. I don’t think they are quite there when they sub the starters out. Not the same intensity as the past.
But that doesn’t mean they aren’t getting better. Just not seeing the in your face defense basketball that has been happening at Waterford

As for the matchup tonight- I’m hoping it is better than I expect. Size and speed will help the cats but Bills is pretty dominant inside. But she has been known to get in foul trouble. As well as their guards. If Waterford can play their game- this will be a good one. Limit turnovers stay out of foul trouble.
Waterford 50
Belpre 44

[dboy]

I want to try to make it to this game depending on timing. I assume there will be a JV game.

[SEOsportchamp23]

I want to try to make it to this game depending on timing. I assume there will be a JV game.

Looks like a varsity only game. Waterford AD posted. 7 pm

[dboy]

Thank you. Might knock me out unless i can leave early but good to know. Good luck for an injury free game to both teams.

[SEOsportchamp23]

Waterford wins 42-35.
Waterford held several double digit leads but Belpre fought back.
I give Belpre’s coaching staff credit- they played tough. What a coaching improvement from previous years. They are coached well and fought back and caused some great turnovers and points off turnovers.
Second matchup will be a good one.

[dboy]

I did make it to this game and wanted to digest everything before commenting. First of all, good game. I think Belpre has players and I think they are coached really well. I also thought they posed some problems for Waterford last night. But as i kept going over things, I just can't figure Waterford out. They did not look prepared and they looked as if they had no fun. Close argued with one of his players on the floor while everyone else was in a timeout and by the time it was over the timeout was done so he never got to talk to his team. On more than one occasion he tried to talk to a kid after taking them out and they seemed to walk away from him. Kids look visibly upset coming off the floor and none of them seemed happy with what I would consider a good win. I also made a point to sit in the Waterford section to try to get the vibe and it wasn't good in the stands. Not sure what it is but something is definitely off. I get it Spider doesn't want to say anything bad about the program (teacher or coach maybe) but i wonder if that means even he thinks something is off. They have a lot of talent and that will determine part of their journey but if the talent and coaching don't come together it may be a shorter journey than people want to see. I am rooting for all of the Hocking so hopefully it works out. As for Belpre, I have to admit that i underestimated them from the beginning so I will eat my crow. I also think they will get better as the season moves on and they could be a real pain in the arse come tourney time. I originally thought the Lancers could share the crown but it could be a two way share, a three way share or we could end up in third behind both of these teams. Best of luck to both the rest of the way.

[Spiderjon]

I did make it to this game and wanted to digest everything before commenting. First of all, good game. I think Belpre has players and I think they are coached really well. I also thought they posed some problems for Waterford last night. But as i kept going over things, I just can't figure Waterford out. They did not look prepared and they looked as if they had no fun. Close argued with one of his players on the floor while everyone else was in a timeout and by the time it was over the timeout was done so he never got to talk to his team. On more than one occasion he tried to talk to a kid after taking them out and they seemed to walk away from him. Kids look visibly upset coming off the floor and none of them seemed happy with what I would consider a good win. I also made a point to sit in the Waterford section to try to get the vibe and it wasn't good in the stands. Not sure what it is but something is definitely off. I get it Spider doesn't want to say anything bad about the program (teacher or coach maybe) but i wonder if that means even he thinks something is off. They have a lot of talent and that will determine part of their journey but if the talent and coaching don't come together it may be a shorter journey than people want to see. I am rooting for all of the Hocking so hopefully it works out. As for Belpre, I have to admit that i underestimated them from the beginning so I will eat my crow. I also think they will get better as the season moves on and they could be a real pain in the arse come tourney time. I originally thought the Lancers could share the crown but it could be a two way share, a three way share or we could end up in third behind both of these teams. Best of luck to both the rest of the way.

After re-watching the game on NFHS and looking for some of the things mentioned. Here are my thoughts- 1. the "arguement" between Wagner and Close, during the quarter break, wasn't shown until they were walking back to the huddle. So i didn't get a good look at it but I would assume Coach is trying to get her to take over this game. I think she can get a little complacent on the floor, ESP when she is being guarded physically (as Bills did with her) and Coach needed to light a fire at that moment. 2. There was def some bad body language that I am sure will be addressed. Was it more frustration with their own play (Malec and Pottmeyer had way too many turnovers-and bad ones that lead to easy baskets) or mad at a coach for holding them accountable for play that was not up to standard? 3. is something off---I honestly don't think so. They have 2 players playing new roles this season as Pottmeyer learns to play off the ball some and Malec takes over to try to fill the gap left by Laken Jones. The cats played well early in the season vs Monroe Central, Fed Hock and Unioto but as has been mentioned, it is hard to keep a rhythm going when you have to sit your best players for 3 straight games, due to blowout wins. They also don't play in their normal rotations during these games, which can throw them out of whack.

BUT-Lets not forget, this game was not as close as the final score indicates, the Wildcats were up 14 points against Belpre with 1:10 left in the 4th, before the Eagles scored 7 straight in the last minute of the game. As stated this was not their best game--turnovers and missed bunnies-- or this is a 20 point win for the Wildcats. Wagner, despite the argument with coach and the lackluster offensive performance (credit to Bills for her defense), Wagner STILL had 3 huge blocks and 2 assists in the final quarter to put the game out of reach. And shoutout to Hurley with 7 points, she also had one of the biggest baskets of the game with her offensive rebound and put back in the 4th Q. She showed in this game she belongs on the floor as their 6th man.

As for Belpre--they were very well coached, prepared, stuck to their gameplan. The guards played well defensively, stayed out of foul trouble and caused the waterford guards some trouble. Alloway is tough all around, posts up hard, likes to get to her left hand and can shoot the 3. But Bills was the MVP, her defense was stellar on Wagner in the 2nd half, physical, forced her away from the basket and always rebounded hard. She scores 1500 points throughout her career, hard worker, its hard not to root for a kid who plays every play as hard as Bills does. Offensively Wagners height hurt Bills but she adjusted well in the second half. The rematch will be fun in the tight gym down at Belpre.

Keep in mind we havn't even made it to Christmas yet, they will be a different Waterford team when the post season gets here. Pottmeyer and Hurley will continue to get better with more and more quality varsity minutes. They play at the Convo tomorrow vs Monroe Central again and Athens comes to Waterford on 12/23.

[dboy]

I did make it to this game and wanted to digest everything before commenting. First of all, good game. I think Belpre has players and I think they are coached really well. I also thought they posed some problems for Waterford last night. But as i kept going over things, I just can't figure Waterford out. They did not look prepared and they looked as if they had no fun. Close argued with one of his players on the floor while everyone else was in a timeout and by the time it was over the timeout was done so he never got to talk to his team. On more than one occasion he tried to talk to a kid after taking them out and they seemed to walk away from him. Kids look visibly upset coming off the floor and none of them seemed happy with what I would consider a good win. I also made a point to sit in the Waterford section to try to get the vibe and it wasn't good in the stands. Not sure what it is but something is definitely off. I get it Spider doesn't want to say anything bad about the program (teacher or coach maybe) but i wonder if that means even he thinks something is off. They have a lot of talent and that will determine part of their journey but if the talent and coaching don't come together it may be a shorter journey than people want to see. I am rooting for all of the Hocking so hopefully it works out. As for Belpre, I have to admit that i underestimated them from the beginning so I will eat my crow. I also think they will get better as the season moves on and they could be a real pain in the arse come tourney time. I originally thought the Lancers could share the crown but it could be a two way share, a three way share or we could end up in third behind both of these teams. Best of luck to both the rest of the way.

After re-watching the game on NFHS and looking for some of the things mentioned. Here are my thoughts- 1. the "arguement" between Wagner and Close, during the quarter break, wasn't shown until they were walking back to the huddle. So i didn't get a good look at it but I would assume Coach is trying to get her to take over this game. I think she can get a little complacent on the floor, ESP when she is being guarded physically (as Bills did with her) and Coach needed to light a fire at that moment. 2. There was def some bad body language that I am sure will be addressed. Was it more frustration with their own play (Malec and Pottmeyer had way too many turnovers-and bad ones that lead to easy baskets) or mad at a coach for holding them accountable for play that was not up to standard? 3. is something off---I honestly don't think so. They have 2 players playing new roles this season as Pottmeyer learns to play off the ball some and Malec takes over to try to fill the gap left by Laken Jones. The cats played well early in the season vs Monroe Central, Fed Hock and Unioto but as has been mentioned, it is hard to keep a rhythm going when you have to sit your best players for 3 straight games, due to blowout wins. They also don't play in their normal rotations during these games, which can throw them out of whack.

BUT-Lets not forget, this game was not as close as the final score indicates, the Wildcats were up 14 points against Belpre with 1:10 left in the 4th, before the Eagles scored 7 straight in the last minute of the game. As stated this was not their best game--turnovers and missed bunnies-- or this is a 20 point win for the Wildcats. Wagner, despite the argument with coach and the lackluster offensive performance (credit to Bills for her defense), Wagner STILL had 3 huge blocks and 2 assists in the final quarter to put the game out of reach. And shoutout to Hurley with 7 points, she also had one of the biggest baskets of the game with her offensive rebound and put back in the 4th Q. She showed in this game she belongs on the floor as their 6th man.

As for Belpre--they were very well coached, prepared, stuck to their gameplan. The guards played well defensively, stayed out of foul trouble and caused the waterford guards some trouble. Alloway is tough all around, posts up hard, likes to get to her left hand and can shoot the 3. But Bills was the MVP, her defense was stellar on Wagner in the 2nd half, physical, forced her away from the basket and always rebounded hard. She scores 1500 points throughout her career, hard worker, its hard not to root for a kid who plays every play as hard as Bills does. Offensively Wagners height hurt Bills but she adjusted well in the second half. The rematch will be fun in the tight gym down at Belpre.

Keep in mind we havn't even made it to Christmas yet, they will be a different Waterford team when the post season gets here. Pottmeyer and Hurley will continue to get better with more and more quality varsity minutes. They play at the Convo tomorrow vs Monroe Central again and Athens comes to Waterford on 12/23.

Agreed. In another thread Trampoline mentioned that he spoke with Close and all is good so this could be more growing pains than anything else. As it has been discussed before and I still forget, they really don't have a lot of varsity experience when you really dig down into it. I still think they have the talent to make it back to state. I think DV is a lock for SEO and I thought (still leaning that way) that Waterford is a lock in DVII (they still have to go through Hiland). I am rooting for the Lancers in DVI and also Unioto in DIII. And I still think the Belpre game was a good win, better than some may think. I admit again that i underestimated that team and they will only get better. Good luck the rest of the way.

[Spiderjon]

I also made a point to sit in the Waterford section to try to get the vibe and it wasn't good in the stands. Not sure what it is but something is definitely off.

This is 100% true. The vibe in the bleachers is off. There is no buzz, no energy in the gym. There were less than 20 kids in the Waterford student section and they sat down most of the game. I don't know know if the fans are too spoiled by the recent success or what but something def needs to change.

[dboy]

Good insight and interesting and I hear what you are saying. Wagner is unique in that she can play in the post or on the perimeter giving the Wildcats a leg up. But Sury and Smithberger are able to do the same so I can see that working. Spiderjon could speak more to this but I know our girls sometimes get a little distracted this time of year. Finals, family in town, gatherings, parties, and so on maybe get their minds off the game. I think this can bleed into the crowd as well as people have other things going on outside of the game. Again, I will defer to Spiderjon and Trampoline as they seem to be closer to the team and Trampoline spoke with Jerry so that is my guess. Also, we are talking about a team that is 9-0 with some good wins.

I was happy with the Lancer versus Harvest Prep. Don't let the record fool you. HP plays bigger school that are really good so they are better than their record. This was a good test to see where we are and what we have to do to get to the next level. Although I worry that Waterford always figures it out, I still think the Lancers can give them a scare the second time around. As far as the league goes, I don't see them losing two so I think they have at least a share wrapped up.

[dboy]

I also made a point to sit in the Waterford section to try to get the vibe and it wasn't good in the stands. Not sure what it is but something is definitely off.

This is 100% true. The vibe in the bleachers is off. There is no buzz, no energy in the gym. There were less than 20 kids in the Waterford student section and they sat down most of the game. I don't know know if the fans are too spoiled by the recent success or what but something def needs to change.

Spiderjon - is tonight's game a regular start vs. Sheridan? Lancers have Nelsonville York so I might try to get live eyes on Sheridan. Curious how they will compare to Unioto. Also heard the Cats have some illness. Any truth to that?

[SEOsportchamp23]

Waterford takes their first loss to Sheridan. And hilverding was back on the sideline tonight.