Open Coaching Jobs

[theassassin]

This seems to be a recurring theme. My son/daughter doesn't play enough so I'll complain and seek to have the coach removed. This goes hand in hand with an attitude of not caring how well them team does as long as my kid plays.

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[IronLady]

I didn't say anything about playing time. That is a coach's decision and shouldn't have to be discussed or complained about if the coach is doing his job correctly. Don't like your playing time, you can always quit. I don't have a problem with that at this point. I only expressed my own opinion that I don't feel it is a good idea for a coach to have a child on his/her team, for many different reasons. I truly don't care who or why someone disagrees with me.

[theassassin]

not happy with playing time so can always quit.... yeah, thats what i'd do to, encourage my child to quit. what about the option of working harder or accepting ones role on the team? not everyone is going to play 32 minutes a game, or 25 min. or even 10 min.

maybe that kid that plays 6-8 min. a game does something that changes the game and helps their team to a win... but because they dont get to play 25 minutes a game we'll just QUIT!!! that attitude just sickens me. i wonder where that attitude comes from? did the child develop it on their own?

according to some opinion here either doug hale shouldnt be coaching the girls at oak hill or either his daughters shouldnt be playing??????????

[IronLady]

Not sure why you are so hostile assassin. I would never encourage a child to quit. I am all for team work, team leading and everyone having a role. I don't think parents or kids should ever complain about playing time. All I meant, is if it comes to that and the kid is not happy then maybe they shouldn't be playing in the first place. I don't care if my kid plays 1 second or the whole game. If they are playing hard, giving their all and above ALL else enjoying it. Then that is all that matters to me. I think you are reading way too much into it.

[1974Viking]

This post site was about the Jackon Lady team finding a new coach. assassin I have tried to reply 2 times to your posts, but am not able to get them posted. I was not the one calling names. I had my opinion about coaching your own child. It is just my opinion. It seems like you can post whatever you want and get away with it. I guess I hit a nerve with you.It is not my intention to argue with you, but I will now stoop as low to drop to the gutter level that you seem to enjoy. Enough about that, it is what it is, no problem.

Good Luck to the Lady Jackson Basketball team in your search for a new coach. I want to apoligise to the Jackson people for getting off subject.

[KNOLLWOOD]

Obviously the opinion of theassasin is the only one that matters or holds the most weight. Why?
A. Because he/she is probably a NASA Aeronautics Engineer or
B. He/she is the Grand Poobah of his Boy or Girl Scout Troup. (No offense intended to the scouting organization, for comparison purposes only)

All opionions hold weight in some shape or form. Keep them coming!

[West Side Pride]

I have to agree with the assasin. Lets be realistic, alot (not all) of coaches kids are more ball
smart and ahead of other kids because if they play that sport that their parents coach, they
live it 24/7. Also they are taught the right way of doing things at home and not by a parent
that thinks they know, but really don't. I see alot of parents get mad, or upset, and those
are the ones that did nothing in school and live though their kids. But they can't make them
any better because they don't really know how. People want someone to coach from somewhere
else because usually their kid is lesser and a new coach that doesnt know will start everyone
the same. The cream still rises to the top.

[prepstar18]

jackson has the talent coming and i would guess they will have many qualified coach's applying

[IronLady]

West Side Pride. I am all for parents coaching their kids at home or on a non-school affiliated team. Just don't agree with the parent coaching at school, for many reasons. Just my opinion. You are right, the cream does rise to the top. Back to the original theme here. Whoever gets the job will have good team to start with and a few good ones coming in. I don't care where the coach comes from as long as they are experienced and will hopefully stick around for awhile. I said an outsider would be good because they wouldn't be warped by the small town politics. You know how it is, my kid's friends with them and they donate lot's of money and so on. Sad to say, but sometimes it does happen. Anyway, I wish the new coach him/her, wherever they come from, the best of luck. GO IRONLADIES!

[theassassin]

Not sure why you are so hostile assassin. I would never encourage a child to quit. I am all for team work, team leading and everyone having a role. I don't think parents or kids should ever complain about playing time. All I meant, is if it comes to that and the kid is not happy then maybe they shouldn't be playing in the first place. I don't care if my kid plays 1 second or the whole game. If they are playing hard, giving their all and above ALL else enjoying it. Then that is all that matters to me. I think you are reading way too much into it.

hostile????? what r u talking about?

i was taught and still believe to this day if you start something you finish it.

[theassassin]

This post site was about the Jackon Lady team finding a new coach. assassin I have tried to reply 2 times to your posts, but am not able to get them posted. I was not the one calling names. I had my opinion about coaching your own child. It is just my opinion. It seems like you can post whatever you want and get away with it. I guess I hit a nerve with you.It is not my intention to argue with you, but I will now stoop as low to drop to the gutter level that you seem to enjoy. Enough about that, it is what it is, no problem.

Good Luck to the Lady Jackson Basketball team in your search for a new coach. I want to apoligise to the Jackson people for getting off subject.

name calling???
i guess because i disagree with your opinion i am in the gutter?

and speaking of hitting a nerve.... perhaps i have hit some nerve with you

[IronLady]

Not sure why you are so hostile assassin. I would never encourage a child to quit. I am all for team work, team leading and everyone having a role. I don't think parents or kids should ever complain about playing time. All I meant, is if it comes to that and the kid is not happy then maybe they shouldn't be playing in the first place. I don't care if my kid plays 1 second or the whole game. If they are playing hard, giving their all and above ALL else enjoying it. Then that is all that matters to me. I think you are reading way too much into it.

hostile????? what r u talking about?

i was taught and still believe to this day if you start something you finish it.

I was taught that you don't tell someone they are full of it just because they have an opinion that differs from that of my own. That is what I meant by hostile.

[theassassin]

ohhhhhh, i see... maybe that was a little strong but, i believe you know what i think of your opinion. no beating around the bush.

i've asked this before and you have not replied to my question.... now that i have your attention i will ask again.... you have adamantly stated in your previous posts your strong feelings against a coach not coaching his/her child at the high school level. i take it you are vehemently against this ever happening. most school districts like for teachers/coaches to reside in their district. my question is.... if a coach resides in the jackson city school district (just using jackson as an example) does that mean his/her son/daughter should not participate in that sport???? or do you feel the coach should resign when their son/daughter reaches this level???? i guess another option would be for the son/daughter to open enroll to another district.

74vike.... feel free to jump in anytime with your reply to the question also.

[theassassin]

I have to agree with the assasin. Lets be realistic, alot (not all) of coaches kids are more ball
smart and ahead of other kids because if they play that sport that their parents coach, they
live it 24/7. Also they are taught the right way of doing things at home and not by a parent
that thinks they know, but really don't. I see alot of parents get mad, or upset, and those
are the ones that did nothing in school and live though their kids. But they can't make them
any better because they don't really know how. People want someone to coach from somewhere
else because usually their kid is lesser and a new coach that doesnt know will start everyone
the same. The cream still rises to the top.

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[theassassin]

To "H" with parents who seem to think that the schools and programs exist solely to placate them and their children. When administration shows they've "got a pair" and stand up and back up their coaches, THEN more coaches will stick around. And Im not just talking about Jackson. Take a look around the SEOAL and tell me who the "dean" of coaches is and how long they've been on their present job.

I'll save you the time. It's Pat Walsh at Logan. Marietta is on their third coach this decade. I believe Warren has had at least that many. Portsmouth changes coaches every year. Chillicothe has their third coach in recent history (Lisath, Hughes, and whoever is there now). GAHS has had four along with an assistant who had to take over one year when the head coach sat out most of the year with a knee injury. I believe Doug Graham has been at Ironton for several years, but then theyre leaving. Jackson will be hiring at least their fourth this decade (whoever was there before McKinniss, McKinness, Martin, and whoever they hire.

Does that sound like coaching girls basketball in the SEOAL promotes job security. Like I said, somebody needs to grow a pair and back up their coaches and not cave in to parental pressure; the same parents who most of them will be gone after their little darlings graduate.

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[IronLady]

ohhhhhh, i see... maybe that was a little strong but, i believe you know what i think of your opinion. no beating around the bush.

i've asked this before and you have not replied to my question.... now that i have your attention i will ask again.... you have adamantly stated in your previous posts your strong feelings against a coach not coaching his/her child at the high school level. i take it you are vehemently against this ever happening. most school districts like for teachers/coaches to reside in their district. my question is.... if a coach resides in the jackson city school district (just using jackson as an example) does that mean his/her son/daughter should not participate in that sport???? or do you feel the coach should resign when their son/daughter reaches this level???? i guess another option would be for the son/daughter to open enroll to another district.

74vike.... feel free to jump in anytime with your reply to the question also.

Gee, you have put a lot of thought into this and all of the of possible circumstances. Maybe something like this has happened to you? I guess it would have to be the coach's/parent's/child's/administration's decision. I would have no say so in any of that, since there are no rules against it, that I know of. But, again this is just MY personal opinion, as I have stated numerous times. And I might add, have a right to. So, here it is again if you haven't quite gotten it yet. I don't care who you are, where you are from, whether your kid is the best athlete or worst. I STILL don't think a parent should coach a kid at the HS level. I seriously doubt that my opinion will have an effect on the rules or anything, so not sure why it bothers you so much. But, it is what it is. I do respect your opinion even though it differs from mine. This is all I will say on this subject since the original posting was supposed to be about open coaching jobs. Sorry for getting off the subject.

[theassassin]

ohhhhhh, i see... maybe that was a little strong but, i believe you know what i think of your opinion. no beating around the bush.

i've asked this before and you have not replied to my question.... now that i have your attention i will ask again.... you have adamantly stated in your previous posts your strong feelings against a coach not coaching his/her child at the high school level. i take it you are vehemently against this ever happening. most school districts like for teachers/coaches to reside in their district. my question is.... if a coach resides in the jackson city school district (just using jackson as an example) does that mean his/her son/daughter should not participate in that sport???? or do you feel the coach should resign when their son/daughter reaches this level???? i guess another option would be for the son/daughter to open enroll to another district.

74vike.... feel free to jump in anytime with your reply to the question also.

Gee, you have put a lot of thought into this and all of the of possible circumstances. Maybe something like this has happened to you? I guess it would have to be the coach's/parent's/child's/administration's decision. I would have no say so in any of that, since there are no rules against it, that I know of. But, again this is just MY personal opinion, as I have stated numerous times. And I might add, have a right to. So, here it is again if you haven't quite gotten it yet. I don't care who you are, where you are from, whether your kid is the best athlete or worst. I STILL don't think a parent should coach a kid at the HS level. I seriously doubt that my opinion will have an effect on the rules or anything, so not sure why it bothers you so much. But, it is what it is. I do respect your opinion even though it differs from mine. This is all I will say on this subject since the original posting was supposed to be about open coaching jobs. Sorry for getting off the subject.

i havent put a lot of thought into it. just your comment/opinion is so easy to shoot down.

no, it hasnt happened to me. there, i answered your question. you still have not answered mine. if you are going to post an opinion like that i would hope you could back it up in some way. i guess you cant do that though.... that is obvious from your reply.

in your opinion..... doug hale should not have coached girls basketball at oak hill? his daughters shouldnt have been on the team?
i guess the same could be said for ted ginn sr and jr at cleveland glenville or the dieblers at upper sandusky?

i like how SOME come to these sites and post without any back up to their posts. obviously you've not put any thought into your comment.

[Chained Eagle]

I've followed this post since it was started. Just getting caught up today. Theassassin makes some good points and asks good questions. I have heard the statements before about coaches and their children. Have yet to hear anyone explain why it shouldn't happen.
My 2 cents on the discussion.

[IronLady]

ohhhhhh, i see... maybe that was a little strong but, i believe you know what i think of your opinion. no beating around the bush.

i've asked this before and you have not replied to my question.... now that i have your attention i will ask again.... you have adamantly stated in your previous posts your strong feelings against a coach not coaching his/her child at the high school level. i take it you are vehemently against this ever happening. most school districts like for teachers/coaches to reside in their district. my question is.... if a coach resides in the jackson city school district (just using jackson as an example) does that mean his/her son/daughter should not participate in that sport???? or do you feel the coach should resign when their son/daughter reaches this level???? i guess another option would be for the son/daughter to open enroll to another district.

74vike.... feel free to jump in anytime with your reply to the question also.

Gee, you have put a lot of thought into this and all of the of possible circumstances. Maybe something like this has happened to you? I guess it would have to be the coach's/parent's/child's/administration's decision. I would have no say so in any of that, since there are no rules against it, that I know of. But, again this is just MY personal opinion, as I have stated numerous times. And I might add, have a right to. So, here it is again if you haven't quite gotten it yet. I don't care who you are, where you are from, whether your kid is the best athlete or worst. I STILL don't think a parent should coach a kid at the HS level. I seriously doubt that my opinion will have an effect on the rules or anything, so not sure why it bothers you so much. But, it is what it is. I do respect your opinion even though it differs from mine. This is all I will say on this subject since the original posting was supposed to be about open coaching jobs. Sorry for getting off the subject.

i havent put a lot of thought into it. just your comment/opinion is so easy to shoot down.

no, it hasnt happened to me. there, i answered your question. you still have not answered mine. if you are going to post an opinion like that i would hope you could back it up in some way. i guess you cant do that though.... that is obvious from your reply.

in your opinion..... doug hale should not have coached girls basketball at oak hill? his daughters shouldnt have been on the team?
i guess the same could be said for ted ginn sr and jr at cleveland glenville or the dieblers at upper sandusky?

i like how SOME come to these sites and post without any back up to their posts. obviously you've not put any thought into your comment.

Actually you can't shoot down an opinion. That's all it is, an opinion. I thought I answered your question and without a doubt you know how I feel. To refresh your memory, or maybe you were too excited to respond quickly and you didn't closely read what I said. I don't care who, where, so on and so forth. That pretty much means everyone, can't make it any plainer than that .

Sure, take a winning coach and he/she shows favoritism to their kid, or on the other hand verbally/practically abuses their kid (both of which I have seen), most people won't have the guts to question it. They will more than likely just keep riding that winning train. On the other hand, take a losing coach who is guilty of the same thing and I'm sure they won't be around long. Anyway, again in MY personal opinion, I feel it is a conflict of interest.

[ironmen1987]

Back to the topic at hand, i still feel Anna would be our best choice. She knows the girls that are already in place and the girls that will make up the team for at least the next 5 years. She is familiar with the new youth program that is in place and most of the girls seem to respect her. The only way to get experience is to do the job.....