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Went to school with Coach Lightle, and I respect him, but it is time for a change. There doesn't seem to be no discipline from top to bottom. There is talent on this team but they have lost focus. Too much fooling around in practice, and not enough time spent on basics. If change is not made soon we wil lose the talented group of young ladies that are coming up in the next two years to the same bad habits that we see on the floor now. Don't know if this present team can be salvaged, and I feel for them. I know for a fact that several of these young ladies have put alot of time in, and are getting nothing for it. Western Girls deserve more than this, and I hope for their sake that we wake up soon, and work on getting them back to contending in the league.

Hmmmmmmmm..... Looks like they're at it again. Look out coach Lightle, what the parents want out at Western, the parents seem to get. Certain people want one coach out, they get their wish. They want teachers to stay, they get their wish. Seems like a repeating factor here.....

thatguy2014 wrote:Hmmmmmmmm..... Looks like they're at it again. Look out coach Lightle, what the parents want out at Western, the parents seem to get. Certain people want one coach out, they get their wish. They want teachers to stay, they get their wish. Seems like a repeating factor here.....

Hey thatguy check out the record for our Lady Indians in the league for the past 5 years, and then let me know if you think we are making any progress. It isn't about what the parents want, it's about what the kids at Western deserve. Believe it or not we used to have a heritage of winning in both our boys, and girls programs here. Now whatever teacher decides they want the position they get it. If your referring to Kite, and if you know anything about our program from last year til now you would notice the change. Easy to sit on your pc and make comments like that, but go to all the games, and watch the kids struggle because they are not prepared is heartbreaking. I think that our kids deserve to be prepared to compete, enough said.

IMO , In the LIMITED time I've seen them, the guy in charge isn't too much of the problem. There is just very little talent and not many above average athletes . You cant turn a chevy into a ferrari . Players make coach's alot of the time. Maybe they could compete a little better against the lower 1/2 of the SOC but expecting the guy to beat Clay,ND or Eastern the past 2 years is just asking way too much. thats an outsider's view. I dont even know the guy's name that coach's them. MD

It all starts in biddy ball and the coaches they have along the way who work with them on the fundamentals and keep the sport fresh and interesting for the kids. If they don't like a coach for whatever reason, they tend not to want to come out for the sport. Teachers doubling as coaches doesn't work a lot of the time these days, not because they don't know the sport, but the kids get sick of seeing them all day! I don't know the coach or the situation at Western either, but I think you have the athletes to compete, but the talent is raw and undeveloped. You've got the makings of a good guard (#20?) who is really fast and can dribble well with her right hand, but hasn't developed her left hand. I think she can become a good player if she puts the time in. Good luck.

Good points from both previous posts. I agree with Arch Nemesis that it needs to start in BiddyBall, and our program is suffering in that aspect. Thanks to all for the comments.

Check out the Boys record this year. Looks like good 'ole Larry Jordan can't save the team. He's playing the wrong people. Brewster is as weak as a fly. Ross, IMO the smartest, strongest on the floor, is riding the pine. Russel, as strong as a bull, riding the pine. Just a bad year for both the boys and girls again, but no one is ready to run Jordan out are they??? Just let the coaches ride the course. Talent comes in spurts at Western, just look at the past teams.. Haven't had a great team since the OUTSTANDING tourney run in '07.. So let Lightle stay. He'll have your junior high angels ready to play next year. Heck, look at Chrissy Woods, a blocking and rebounding machine!!! Just let him stay and ride the bad year.

First of all if anyone expected Larry to fix this team in one year, well I guess u weren't around the past few. Lot of young talent and he is looking at the future, Brewster will get stronger in the offseason. U don't run off a legend after one year. Let me guess your on the Kite bandwagon. That's a train that wasn't going anywhere. As for Lightle, install some tough discipline an mayb he gets it done, seen too much laughing, an joking in practice, that's if he gets to practice. And yeah their is some talent like the Woods girl, and Parker on defense, but is it him that develops them or just their hard work? U kno everyone takes it so personal when someone wld like to see a change in the program, change is good sometimes. It's nothing personal, just an observation. I just think a change might do the program some good. Good Luck Indians...

There's not a coach in the state that would have much more success with this team than Mr. Lightle is having. To win you have to have the horses. It really rather simple.

There is real talent at the Jr. High. Western will be just fine in a few years.

All I can say is that I am sure there are atleast 50% of the schools in the state that think they are in the same position as you. Deal with it, it sucks but it is the way it is. They are the coach, you run this one off and then what if the next coach isnt any better. The grass aint always greener. You do have to have some players too. Good Luck. I feel ya.

I'm not real sure where Western Pike is but, ssbball has a point---compare programs that change coaches every couple of years to the ones that have coaching stability--I bet I know what you'll find.

toast wrote:There's not a coach in the state that would have much more success with this team than Mr. Lightle is having. To win you have to have the horses. It really rather simple.

There is real talent at the Jr. High. Western will be just fine in a few years.

First I have to say that they do need a new coach for several reasons. The biggest is the lack of discipline. We need someone the players can respect and listen to. And we do have a couple of people in our own community who CAN get the job done. There is some great talent coming up from the Jr. High and we need someone in there that can cultivate that talent. I do believe we need someone who will show up to practice and coach. We dont have that now.

Wow ! I really wish we didn't air out this stuff on a platform like this and handled it in our own community . Our kids went threw enough of it last year !!

I agree with ya lightle04, but that's what cowards do!!! If you have interest in a team, then grow a set and ask to talk to the coach in a grown-up manner. Don't back stab or rant about something........Just ask.

lightle04 wrote:Wow ! I really wish we didn't air out this stuff on a platform like this and handled it in our own community . Our kids went threw enough of it last year !!

I agree with you for the most part Lightle04. Western has been through too much this last year, and as someone who did not want to see the last boys coach go I dont want to see it happen to the girls if its not for the best, but the person I quoted in my post "seemed" to be implying that the current girls we have now have no talent. Talent only gets you so far without a good coach. And "seemed" to imply that noone in the state but the current coach is capable of coaching these girls, and I dont believe that to be true. We have alot of good girls from Jr. High to HS and alot of people capable of being good coaches in our own community. No one should imply anything about kids, that is all I want to get accross.

I understand what you are saying but By us takeing part in this thread we just add fuel to the original posters fire I would have hoped that after last years crazy witch hunt and out right assault on a coaches professional and personal life that went on out here on any and every open Internet forum and watching our school and community get tore apart ( people still fighting in public over the fall out) and seeing our kids cry over a mess like that we would learn to handle this type of matters in house.

lightle04 wrote:I understand what you are saying but By us takeing part in this thread we just add fuel to the original posters fire I would have hoped that after last years crazy witch hunt and out right assault on a coaches professional and personal life that went on out here on any and every open Internet forum and watching our school and community get tore apart ( people still fighting in public over the fall out) and seeing our kids cry over a mess like that we would learn to handle this type of matters in house.

Your right..

First of all lightle04, I did not attack his personal life, or an all out assault, and its just an opinion of our current program. I dont understand why a change always has to be a bad thing. If u would read what was said, you would know that I only feel that sometimes you need to shake things up a little, and we have been stagnant for a while now. We may not have the talent, but I believe the attitude from these young ladies is there, and just needs a different avenue. I also did not like the things that were said last year, and I was not part of the personal attacks on Kite. I didn't see any need of the comments that were made. I also hated for our program, but we needed a change, and I am glad that we were able to get Larry. I could understand if I was trashing Darren, but I did not, and I still stand by my original comments that he has become complacent. I hope he can do the right thing for this program, and give someone else a shot. Again, our young ladies deserve someone committed to this program 100%. Im out.