Coaching Changes

[rxburgfan]

i think both programs would be too much. with the time he has spent developing a girls program i think if he wants a shot at the boys team he should get it. should be interesting.

[soccerguru]

So any news on Minford coach? And when is West going to get with the program and get a real soccer program? Need to get new coaches and trash the old system. Could be something there if they would work it.

[Buckeye24]

If the assistant takes over for West, they will have a decent team. He knows soccer, and if the kids listen to him, they will become good soccer players. Its just gonna take some discipline and hard work over the summer.

[3ydsnacldfdst]

Frankfort Adena has an opening for head soccer coach!

[UUsokkr12]

There doesn't seem to be program in Southern Ohio, maybe other than Wheelersburg, that has a dedicated soccer program. Coaching turnover is too high for any program to develop.

[socman]

In the SE district there are quite a few dedicated and established soccer programs.

In no particular order

Chillicothe
Warren
Marietta
Albany
Athens
Unioto
Zane Trace
Waverly
Wheelersburg
South Webster
Minford
Fairfield Union

There are also quite a few programs that are on the rise.

[UUsokkr12]

Ok, let me restate myself....I mean there seems to be no dedicated programs in the SOC. By this I mean a SCHOOL DISTRICT that is 100% behind the program. Having a good team every 4 or 5 years is not what I mean. Wheelersburg and Minford are propbably the only Districts that are putting the effort into their youth programs.

I grew up in Southern Ohio and went through the youth programs and high school and played some in college. In Souther Ohio, there are NO dedicated programs like you see in Columbus, Dayton, Cincinnati areas (everywhere else in Ohio). And it has nothing to do with the fact that they are bigger cities and more populated. It has everything to do with parents being lazy and not wanting to drive from West to South Webster on a weekday to play a youth soccer match. Parents would much rather drive to their local fields and play each other. I know there are some Districts that play another District, but it's nothing like what the rest of Ohio has to offer for their youth soccer players. You CAN'T have kids in the school district growing up playing the same kids and expect to accomplish much in high school when you get into tournament time. Now there has been some success from SOC teams in the last several seasons as far as winning District Championships, but who was the last SOC team to make it to State? I have no idea...

But back to my initial point....I just see too many coaches come and go. How do you expect a coach to accomplish anything in 3 years? IMO, it seems like SOC Districts have an idea of soccer and don't want to put anything more into that idea.

[ndc soccer]

Of course the programs in Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati are going to be better. Look at the facilities and coaching they can recieve. It's hard for school's to get behind soccer because alot of schools down here are football schools. Only a handful of schools have thier own fields to play on. There are schools that have dedicated programs. You mentioned 'Burg & Minford. I know Webster has had a good youth program in the past. Look at the talent they've produced over the years. Waverly's new coach is always at the YMCA in Waverly watching the younger kids play, talking to them, asking if they are going to play club or what not. Parents have alot to say in what happens to a coach around here in any sport, and thats pretty sad. There are coaches around that are TRYING to develop youth, it just takes a while.

[UUsokkr12]

That's why I said there's really not one SCHOOL DISTRICT supporting their soccer program. Goals aren't too expensive..if you have the land, a decent pitch is not hard to maintain..if schools have a baseball field then they can take care of a pitch. Those bigger city areas just have more people dedicated to developing high school and club soccer programs. I'm not saying that coaches aren't trying to make the effort. I'm talking about the SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

But I agree with you NDC.

[4thgoal]

Are you talking about school districts buying the goals and maintaining the fields for the youth programs? Does this happen in little league baseball or pee wee football? No. Youth leagues should be able to support themselves either through donations, sponsorships, fund raisers or just from the sign-up fees.

As far as growing up and playing the same competition from your own school, I am not sure where you are from, but I believe all of the Scioto Co. schools participate in the county league and play the other schools at a minimum of U10 through U15.

I agree that high school coaches should be more involved in the youth program to be sure the kids are being taught what they need to know at the younger ages. I know Coach Barrick and Coach Holden are involved in the pee wee basketball programs at Wheelersburg, but I don't recall seeing any of the Wheelersburg high school soccer coaches around the youth fields on a Saturday morning last year.

[UUsokkr12]

Obviously you've never seen or played club soccer. People travel all over the state to play games, even on weekdays. Not like Scioto County where they only drive 15 minutes to the next school to play on a saturday morning. Club soccer needs to be established in this area. When I played, yes, we played against other school districts. But now, not every school district plays each other. All I know is that I've Coached and Officiated for years now in the Dayton area and when you come back to see games in the Portsmouth area, soccer is a definitely not at the quality of the rest of the State.

If there's not club soccer then the high school coaches need to be proactive in developing youth programs as best as they can. I know it's time consuming and takes years to perfect.

As far as a School District purchasing goals and equipment, I mean that for high school soccer. Some teams have to raise the money themselves and the school barely contributes, if they do contribute at all.

[socvwatcher#1]

There is a club soccer team in Chillicothe that has been growing. The FCFC club. You are right that people need to put time and money in to drivng further away to play a more higher level of soccer. People in Southern Ohio have the ability to play in 3V3 tournaments on a Saturnday in the summer or visit college camps.

[UUsokkr12]

My sister plays for FCFC and I'm glad that someone is making the right steps. But if you ask anyone from area schools in Portsmouth, no one has heard of them. FCFC aslo plays has to travel a lot. Hopefully, there will be a few more club teams being started up in the Portsmouth area.

[4thgoal]

Yes, I have seen and played club soccer. In an earlier post you were talking about kids growing up only playing the kids from their school on their own field and that is what I was responding to. Club soccer is a different animal than the youth league we have in Scioto Co. and I completely agree that club soccer needs to be established in the area. Gaining enough interest from dedicated players, coaches, and parents is extremely tough. High school coaches need to be a big part of this.

There is also EKFC based out of Ashland, KY. I believe they will have a few kids from Minford and Wheelersburg on their various rosters this year.

[rxburgfan]

there is now a club base out of ashland ky. so far they seem to be gaining momentum. they have a good core of coaches and establishing relationships with ssu. club is a real commitment. money is only part of it. time is a huge factor. practicing twice per week and playing on weekends is not for the weak of wallet or availability.

[B1OHIO]

I hear last years assistant coaches will take over the Minford program. They have a tough act to follow!! Four very sucessfull seasons under coach Havens. Good luck guys!

[rxburgfan]

i suspect it will be assistant coaches filling the varsity job. havens did a great job of really getting her kids to play hard. new coach does have success to follow.

[3ydsnacldfdst]

What does everybody think of schools trying to play coed than have to play boys in the tournament. Are those schools trying to be competitive?

[4thgoal]

What does everybody think of schools trying to play coed than have to play boys in the tournament. Are those schools trying to be competitive?

I am not sure what this has to do with the topic of coaching changes? Most that play coed do so because they don't have enough girls to field a team and/or there is not enough $$$ to have both teams in the school district. It has nothing to do with being competitive. Coach Boll at Wheelersburg fields a coed team and has over 350 career victories including 12 SOC titles, 19 Sectionals and 6 Districts. That's pretty competitive if you ask me.

[3ydsnacldfdst]

4th

sorry if i touched a nerve ! do the burg's girls get to play during crunch time against the boys in the tournament. i just can't imagine that having agood outcome for the girls.