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Folks get a clue on all these kids being hyped at throwing in the high 80's and low 90's in SE Ohio!
There is not but maybe one or two in SE Ohio that throws mid 80's consistently!!

The average fastball in the Majors right now is 87 m.p.h. Look how many make a living throwing a baseball and the average is 87 m.p.h.

If they are throwing that hard, is the distance 45'??? It surely is not 60'6"

How many of you have even seen a 90 m.p.h. fastball? If you have not, then let me make a suggestion take a day and drive to Lousiville, Ky. and go to the bat factory and see a 90 m.p.h. fastball. I will most likely say you will come back and say these kids are no where close to 80.

That's true, everyone thinks that all of these pitchers throw upper 80's/low 90's. No chance. I thought I threw hard until I got out into the real world and realized what 88-94 really is, and its definatley not whats in Southern Ohio.

at the pike county fair I threw 37mph. I was feeling good that day

Was that with the wind behind you?? lol

deweese3 wrote:at the pike county fair I threw 37mph. I was feeling good that day

Your sure it was 37 not 137???

Eagle12 wrote:Was that with the wind behind you?? lol

deweese3 wrote:at the pike county fair I threw 37mph. I was feeling good that day

im pretty sure it was 37 cause i was mad that i didnt reach my goal. my goal was 40

I must say I am sure glad that you have well surpassed your goal of 40 these days!!!

we will have to wait till the fair next year to see lol

Was that clocked from 400' or 45'? lol

deweese3 wrote:we will have to wait till the fair next year to see lol

I've seen 2 high school kids hit 90's. Jake Hale from Alexander now throwing for Ohio State topped 93-94 according the Juggs I was watching. Also - can't think of his first name - but Hill from Fairland a few years ago hit 91 a couple of times, during the same tournament.

Legion Ball last summer, The Wamsley boy from Wheelersburg was hitting in the High 80's Low 90's possibly.

guys 90 explodes not pops. Everyone in the ballpark knows it is 90+

No doubt most est are over rated, however distance has no play in discussion. 90 mph is 90 mph no matter what the distance.I also think that more HS players may throw in the 80's then most think.What seperates HS 80's from MLB 80's is controll and location,location,location.

umm....you forgot a big part, movement.

This is mtiger24's dad. I question the reliability and accuracy of Juggs and other guns. In college we frequently had our team's Juggs and the opponents both clocking pitches. Usually a few MPH off, but sometimes consistently 8-10 mph different. Ours tended to be slower. 20 some years ago, Andy Benes pitched for Evansville and consistently hit 100 on Evansville's gun, but about 95 on ours. Didn't matter what the exact speed was - he was fast and we only got a few hits and one run off him. Talking with some college coaches in the last few years, they say they generally don't believe a reading unless it is on their gun but do say that guns are somewhat better today. And as other posters have said, movement, change of speeds and location are even more important for most pitchers.

mtiger24 wrote:This is mtiger24's dad. I question the reliability and accuracy of Juggs and other guns. In college we frequently had our team's Juggs and the opponents both clocking pitches. Usually a few MPH off, but sometimes consistently 8-10 mph different. Ours tended to be slower. 20 some years ago, Andy Benes pitched for Evansville and consistently hit 100 on Evansville's gun, but about 95 on ours. Didn't matter what the exact speed was - he was fast and we only got a few hits and one run off him. Talking with some college coaches in the last few years, they say they generally don't believe a reading unless it is on their gun but do say that guns are somewhat better today. And as other posters have said, movement, change of speeds and location are even more important for most pitchers.

I would agree with the gun reliability comment. Any gun can be "tweeked" to be fast or slow. There are a multitude of tuning forks that are used to calibrate the machines. I too think that you would be hard pressed to find many kids from the area that throw in the upper 80's. On a side note, if you guys know any lefties that throw that hard, send em my way. We can both make some money.

Will that "tweaking" argument get me out of my traffic violation

Juggs uses a tuning fork of sorts and claims to be only +/- 1mph. I dunno?? What I do know is that if I can't see it, I can't hit it. If anyone in Southern Ohio hits the 90's, cool, they'll be getting a full ride somewhere.

Justin Myers from Symmes Valley was hitting 91-92 at Green back in 2002. He went on to Ohio State. I talked to the scout from Pittsburgh who was clocking him. Green had there stud on the mound and the scout didn't even look at him. I ask him to clock him just for fun, 79-81. Not many around here pushing 90.

BuckeyeFan66 wrote:Justin Myers from Symmes Valley was hitting 91-92 at Green back in 2002. He went on to Ohio State. I talked to the scout from Pittsburgh who was clocking him. Green had there stud on the mound and the scout didn't even look at him. I ask him to clock him just for fun, 79-81. Not many around here pushing 90.

not to be down playing what you said, but im sure Green's ace back then was just as bad as the one they have today. Thats probably why he wasnt getting looked at.