Peebles (18-3) vs. Zane Trace (12-9) 2/28

[jimmy chipwood]

So a middle of the pack SVC teams puts it to a top tier SHL team.

Sounds like Peebles might not have been as strong as everyone hyped them up to be.

They did tonight. I think Peebles (towards the end of the year) fell in love with running. It might have been their downfall (running to much) because in my opinion high school teams have to value every possession in the tournament attempting to get the best shot you can each trip down the floor. In the long run its almost impossible to run all the time when you only go 6-7 deep. I think to much emphasis was placed (for this game) on who could control tempo! I dont see it that way. I just see it as who gets the best/easiest shots usually wins the game. I think sometimes when you have the mentality of fastbreaking and creating an uptempo game you forget about valuing each possession and playing good half court defense.

[thefan]

Sounds like you have all the excuses covered for him. ZT dominated this game from start to finish. I came into this game excited to see Justice play for the 1st time this season. I'm sure he wasn't at his best but it seemed to me he forced alot of shots in the 1st half and had alot of trouble adjusting to ZT's physical play. He did knock down some shots late in the 2nd half but by then this game was already decided. Maxwell for ZT was the best player on the court in this game. The SVC might not have been such a weak league this year after all. ZT, Piketon and Westfall all won pretty easily.

[dragon88]

So a middle of the pack SVC teams puts it to a top tier SHL team.

Sounds like Peebles might not have been as strong as everyone hyped them up to be.

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Paint Valley beat ZT during the regular season? What about Southeastern? The Peebles vs. Paint Valley wasn't much of a game. Just goes to show that you can't predict the unpredicatble.

Great season for the Indians, they just happened to run into a team that was firing on all cylinders that night.

[Wffan]

I stated earlier that the tempo would be huge and I disagree with the above comment. It was 100% the reason for the ZT win. Explain how a team that likes to get up and down the court and score a lot is playing a team that likes to control tempo and you don't full court press? Not a few times, I'm talking Peebles just let ZT walk the ball up the whole game...if I knew that, I would have predicted the outcome!!

[jimmy chipwood]

I dont know of anybody who said the SVC was weak this year. They had 5 good teams this year and Paint Valley was competing better at the end of the season. Southeastern and Unioto were not competitive. Although Unioto was able to keep scores low in their games. SHL has lost 5 head to head games against SVC this year. Lyncburg lost to Piketon and Huntington (by2) and Peebles (last night), West Union lost to Westfall by 17, Whiteoak lost to Adena by 9. Eastern Brown beat Huntington by 14, Southeastern by 17, and Adena by 10-15 in tournament. Peebles beat Southeastern by 34, Paint Valley by 19. Fairfield beat Adena by 11, Paint VAlley by 11. Lynchburg beat Unioto on the road by 4.

SHL = 8 wins
SVC = 5 wins

League Comparison

#1's. North Adams/Piketon - tie
#2's. Peebles/Westfall - SVC
#3's. Manchester/Zane Trace - SVC
#4's Fairfield/Adena - SHL
#5's Eastern Brown/Huntington - SHL
#6's Whiteoak/Paint Valley - SHL
#7's West Union/Southeastern - SHL
#8's Ripley/Lynchburg vs Unioto - SHL

[thebull]

Very good breakdown Jimmy. Now i dont feel so bad. GO NA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hbk2016]

Year In - Year Out - people always post and talk about how the SVC is a "weak" league.

I think most on here have seen those comments and posts for a long time.

[peeblesportsfan1391]

Yes it was a great season for the Indians!! Maybe they overlooked Zane Trace a little, but to there defense they were not hitting shots that they typically make! And maybe this was a little karma after all the Indian fan's, which were rooting against the North Adams Green Devils last night against the Trojans of Portsmouth! And to think that Coach McFarland who done an excellent job with this group last year who took the same team to the District finals was let go after a great season! So maybe what goes around, comes around!

I love how people who have absolutely no clue about anything come on websites like this and post some ridiculous thing just to try to stir crap. For one, yes there were many Peebles' fans cheering against North Adams the other night, but that is due to a past history of tension between the two teams, I know for a fact that there will people from the Peebles team that were cheering for North Adams, just as I know there are kids off of the North Adams team that cheer for Peebles. These teams have a lot of respect for each other, and a lot of the players from both teams are friends off the court. To say that the Peebles loss was due to karma is just plain idiocy. And as for the Coach McFarland deal, I do not see it as fair, nor right to compare the two seasons. I have a lot of respect for Coach McFarland, and what he committed to the program over the course of 4 years. However, if you look back at last year's season and this year's season, I think that many Indian fans will tell you that we had a more successful season this year. Sure the Indians fell a little bit short this year of their goal of making it to the Convo, but that was due to an uncontrollable set of circumstances. (Players getting sick, having an off night, not hitting shots they would normally make)...If Peebles had not come out and played with heart and effort, than I believe people could rightfully say that the Indians had an unsuccessful season and rightfully deserved to lose, but the fact of the matter is....that they gave it everything they had, but they just had their worst game of the season at the wrong time, and Zane Trace had their best game at the right time. Congrats to Zane Trace and Good Luck in the rest of the Tourny.....

GO INDIANS...WE WILL GET 'EM NEXT YEAR

[beaverlover]

Maybe some people should actually give Zane Trace some credit!!! They are a good team,and everyone acted like Peebles would just roll...I thought it would come down to the wire...ZT just flat out was the better team....Peebles had no answer for Haynes or Maxwell all night!! Zane Trace is alot better team than what most of you think.Peebles has a very good team,and should be strong next year as will ZT. Just an outside opinion from a neutrual fan!

[Kickinurz]

I agree beaverlover they are very dangerous and that program is on the rise for the next few years.
I think their freshman team is loaded too.

[FLAGMANUSA]

Well peeblesportsfan1391 it sounds like you have all the excuses already made anyway ! And as far as this season being more successful then last year how about you tell that to the seniors who got put out in Sectionals this year compared to District's last year! And yea there season was better this year no doubt (better record). But obviously there post-season was a disaster compared to last year! It sounds like you have all excuses already made "uncontrollable set of circumstances. Players getting sick, having an off night, not hitting shots they would normally make" And as far as trying to stir crap and a ridiculous comment I just thought how terrible it was to see a lot of Peebles fan's sitting on Portsmouths front row cheering for them as if they were there home team! Good luck to the SHL teams left! In the tournament!

[stephen3108]

I saw the same thing as flagman did. A majority of the Peebles fans were cheering against NA but thats okay. I don't think the loss was karma or anything like that however. Peebles just didn't show up to play and its a shame. It would have been nice to have them at the Convo with NA. Good season Peebles.

[sparky]

peebles sports fan,
are you a cubs fan? isn't that what they say at the end of next season? winning a league championship should be goal one and the more important goal is going to the next season and making a strong tournament run. teams make their noteriety by winning consistently during the regular season and then carrying that over to a district or regional appearance and the holy grail the final four and a state champion.

[shljunkie]

Oh good grief...lets dont get started on they "they didn't clap for us" bandwagon. That's ongoing. There are many people from Peebles that cheer for NA during tournament games, heck there are quite a few that go to NA's regular season games if they think Peebles is playing too far away on a given night. There are some people from NA that cheer for Peebles but I can honestly say there aren't many that I have seen but what does it really matter...we all have our own fan bases and should really care less about it.
Some of the players from both teams like each other...some probably can't stand each other....that's how it will always be and should really be.

[rooster]

I don't think sportsfan is making excuses, just stating the facts. Zane Trace's ability to shut them down in conjuction with other things is the reason that they lost. The long and the short of it is, the Peebles boys on the floor Saturday night was not the same team from regular season play. It was obvious to anyone who has followed this team that they did not bring their "A" game. Noone on here can say that Peebles played the best game they could play and still got beat! Not taking anything away from Zane Trace we just know our team.

Although other leagues don't want to acknowledge the SHL's talent this year, North Adams is a tough ball club and a top contender and should not be underestimated as they will more than likely make a very long run, maybe to the end. In Peebles last game against NA, Peebles was ahead in the 4th quarter but fell short in the last few minutes of the game. Same thing happened to Portsmouth a very good team. NA gets the job done in the end.

You can't discredit the Peebles boys and their hard work all season long. Getting put out of the tournament is not indicative of how the season was as a whole. It is but one night of basketball, if you have a bad night, if you don't grab rebounds, make foul shots, if a few calls don't go your way it can change the course of the game and still not be the epitome of your entire basketball season. Portsmouth and Peebles are perfect examples of this. A couple of missed foul shots, a possession snafu with the refs and the ballgame goes the other way. These are just kids and they are fallible.

Let's give credit where credit is due and not tear down other leagues and what the boys have accomplished all year. If Piketon gets put out by Ironton is everyone going to say they are overrated or are you going to say "man what happened, they should've won" Of course Peebles wanted to win the sectional title and had the talent to win, it just didn't go our way. You can't discredit Zane Trace and their game play on that night. They showed up to play and emmerged the winner!

Thats the beauty and the heartbreak of tournament time anything can happen.

Congratulations to all the winners moving on to the convo. Best of luck!

[rooster]

So a middle of the pack SVC teams puts it to a top tier SHL team.

Sounds like Peebles might not have been as strong as everyone hyped them up to be.

They did tonight. I think Peebles (towards the end of the year) fell in love with running. It might have been their downfall (running to much) because in my opinion high school teams have to value every possession in the tournament attempting to get the best shot you can each trip down the floor. In the long run its almost impossible to run all the time when you only go 6-7 deep. I think to much emphasis was placed (for this game) on who could control tempo! I dont see it that way. I just see it as who gets the best/easiest shots usually wins the game. I think sometimes when you have the mentality of fastbreaking and creating an uptempo game you forget about valuing each possession and playing good half court defense.

Can't argue with that Jimmy. We missed nearly all the easy shots we attempted and ZT had plenty of blocks underneath. It definitely was a deciding factor. Our run and gun offense was nonexistent and we didn't make up for it inside. ZT planned well and it paid off.

[shljunkie]

great, great post rooster!!

[opiie94]

[quote="FLAGMANUSA"]Yes it was a great season for the Indians!! Maybe they overlooked Zane Trace a little, but to there defense they were not hitting shots that they typically make! And maybe this was a little karma after all the Indian fan's, which were rooting against the North Adams Green Devils last night against the Trojans of Portsmouth! And to think that Coach McFarland who done an excellent job with this group last year who took the same team to the District finals was let go after a great season! So maybe what goes around, comes around!

I was not at the NA Portsmouth game to witness Peebles fans rooting against NA. I was at a game this year when NA PLAYERS were sitting on the front row of the Peebles side rooting against Peebles, so maybe what goes around , has not come around yet.

[superfly]

I was at the NA and Portsmouth game I saw only a few people from Peebles cheering aganist NA. I know alot of people from both school and they get along but there always a few bad apples in every barrell. So quit bad mouthing all the Peebles fans saying they all was cheering for Portsmouth.


I was also at the NA and Minford girls game and saw a lot of people and high school boys basketball player from Peebles there cheering for NA. So there are some good people at both schools


I watched Peebles play a few games this season and they did not bring there A game but Zane Trace did so that should be only thing said about this game. So good luck to all the teams that still in the tournment.

[jchitwood]

What's the big deal about rival schools rooting against each other? In 1996 when NA went to state I rooted for them, and some other Peebelians didn't. Then in 1998 some of them rooted for our girls, some didn't.

It's a rivalry guys...I don't expect dejected Red Sox fans to throw their support behind the Yankees because both teams are in the AL East.

And hey, props to players that I've seen root for the other teams, in the sectional and at the Convo. Lots of class act players in the SHL.