Minford High School coach resigns

[art_vandelay]

I'd be surprised to see Shoemaker leave Portsmouth with the talent he has coming back next year, regardless of his Minford ties. Worth a phone call from Minford though as he would probably be a lifer there if he was interested. If not, I'd be giving Bradford a hollar.

Perdas is putting together a nice resume. At some point, somebody will give him a shot.*

[Buckeye-4-Life]

Where is this Perdas kid from?

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He graduated from South Webster. But that is a pretty long commute to Minford In all seriousness though I mean I just figured he should draw some attention. I know teaching positions and what not come into play in high school and that might be a hurdle, but when it comes to basketball he has the resume. I know he works camps at Mich St, Notre Dame, Utah, Wake and others and has been a solid recruiter and assistant for the SSU womens program. I know Hagen-Smith is the head coach and is responsible for the success but he has contributed to a great 4 years and this season, the best regular season in school history. But like I said it's just a name drop.

[son of busdriver]

You can throw out all the names you want but Minford will hire whoever they want, they surprise a lot of people with their choices. I thought Copley did a good job and was a good influence on the boys. Why anyone would want a high school coach to be part of the pee-wee program does'nt make sense to me. There is enough pressure on the kids as it is now, this is the time for the kids and parents to have fun together.I think when they reach the jr. high level then the parents need to step back and let the school take over.A lot of problems occur when parents can't give up the idea they are no longer the coach (an example is one Dad on the girls Varsity team) I think your school programs should be run like the Little League , involving the school only on the use of the facilities.

[Winchell]

I don't think anyone is saying you can't have success without ties to an area but I think it is an easier transition when people know you. I think they trust a little easier when they think you have a history with a particular program. Just my opinion.

I disagree. Many times the transition is more difficult when people know you.

[eagles73Taylor]

Then it shouldnt have been on this thread, and he should clarify things. Not close to being amusing.....then again some of us are mature, and some arent.

Yeah, just like the hook, line and sinker joke you guys were laughing at me about on the Valley, Westfall thread. Mature, you sound like my 5 year old, thinks its hilarious when they pull the joke, but get made fun of and cry and whine! He has an excuse, he is 5, whats yours?

[CoyDuke]

McGraw would be a choice if he still lives in that community.

[Eaglesnest]

Bradford or Fitch will be likely be the leading candidates.

I for one hope Fitch stays at Eastern.

[monk]

I can see what both live4sport and winchell are saying. I can understand hiring Strickland, Bradford, or somebody like that over the Perdas kid. They've proven over an extended period of time to be very good head coaches. But to me, Perdas and Shoemaker are on about the same level. Shoemaker has only been a head varsity coach for what, three years? And although he's done a nice job, I wouldn't call him a proven commodity yet. Fitch would be a step behind. Again, he's done a great job, but only one or two years as a varsity head coach so he still has more to prove. Ryan McGraw, as far as I know, has only been a head JV coach and varsity assistant. Please don't think I'm knocking Shoemaker, Fitch, or McGraw; because I'm not. Any of them would make a fine choice to lead the Minford program. I just don't see how you could say hire them over someone like Perdas who has college level experience just because they have Minford ties.

[Regulator]

I can see what both live4sport and winchell are saying. I can understand hiring Strickland, Bradford, or somebody like that over the Perdas kid. They've proven over an extended period of time to be very good head coaches. But to me, Perdas and Shoemaker are on about the same level. Shoemaker has only been a head varsity coach for what, three years? And although he's done a nice job, I wouldn't call him a proven commodity yet. Fitch would be a step behind. Again, he's done a great job, but only one or two years as a varsity head coach so he still has more to prove. Ryan McGraw, as far as I know, has only been a head JV coach and varsity assistant. Please don't think I'm knocking Shoemaker, Fitch, or McGraw; because I'm not. Any of them would make a fine choice to lead the Minford program. I just don't see how you could say hire them over someone like Perdas who has college level experience just because they have Minford ties.

College level experience is not necessarily the way to go in High School. Look at South Webster right now. Their coach has College Level Experience, but what have they done in two years? College Level Experience would only be beneficial if you were able to recruit the Junior Highs in order to bring in the talent you want. In high school, many times, you are playing with the hand you are dealt. I am not saying Perdas would not be a great coach, just saying bringing college level experience will not be that big of a difference. If you don't have the thourougbreds you won't win many races, plain and simple.

Monk, You sound like you are Perdas' agent.

[Eaglesnest]

I can see what both live4sport and winchell are saying. I can understand hiring Strickland, Bradford, or somebody like that over the Perdas kid. They've proven over an extended period of time to be very good head coaches. But to me, Perdas and Shoemaker are on about the same level. Shoemaker has only been a head varsity coach for what, three years? And although he's done a nice job, I wouldn't call him a proven commodity yet. Fitch would be a step behind. Again, he's done a great job, but only one or two years as a varsity head coach so he still has more to prove. Ryan McGraw, as far as I know, has only been a head JV coach and varsity assistant. Please don't think I'm knocking Shoemaker, Fitch, or McGraw; because I'm not. Any of them would make a fine choice to lead the Minford program. I just don't see how you could say hire them over someone like Perdas who has college level experience just because they have Minford ties.

Monk: Again , I'm not lobbying for Fitch or Bradford over anyone. But, to answer your question, if I were an AD, I would rather someone have some varisty experience over alot of college experience . High school is a different environment and requires a different set of skills to be successful 9not talking about W's).

Just my 2 cents.

[falconater]

I agree with both of the previous posts. As to involvement in pee wee, I don't think anyone wants the coach to run it. I think set a framework, a style, fundamentals to achieve by certain grades, and somtimes show up

[Regulator]

I can see what both live4sport and winchell are saying. I can understand hiring Strickland, Bradford, or somebody like that over the Perdas kid. They've proven over an extended period of time to be very good head coaches. But to me, Perdas and Shoemaker are on about the same level. Shoemaker has only been a head varsity coach for what, three years? And although he's done a nice job, I wouldn't call him a proven commodity yet. Fitch would be a step behind. Again, he's done a great job, but only one or two years as a varsity head coach so he still has more to prove. Ryan McGraw, as far as I know, has only been a head JV coach and varsity assistant. Please don't think I'm knocking Shoemaker, Fitch, or McGraw; because I'm not. Any of them would make a fine choice to lead the Minford program. I just don't see how you could say hire them over someone like Perdas who has college level experience just because they have Minford ties.

Monk: Again , I'm not lobbying for Fitch or Bradford over anyone. But, to answer your question, if I were an AD, I would rather someone have some varisty experience over alot of college experience . High school is a different environment and requires a different set of skills to be successful 9not talking about W's).

Just my 2 cents.

Varsity experience will only go so far too. Look at Kriesher at South Webster. I believe he had no varsity experience, but 3 years later became a state champion coach. I believe all coaches have to start somewhere to get experience. Even Van Meter, Persin, and Jordan had to have a "1st" year as a Varsity coach.

[Eaglesnest]

Kriesher is a bad example to use in this discussion. Not knocking him, but he did have 2 D1 players on that D4 team! Again, not saying that he wasn't a good coach, but I for one would have liked to seen him stick it out with the talent level Webster has had the last couple of years.

But, point taken. Every head coach had to get their "first gig" without prior varsity experience. I still think that if a candidate has the high school experience it would carry more weight than someone who is an assistant or recruiter or whatver for s small college. As someone else said, S. Webster and Clay have both found out that it is not an automatice ticket to success.

[-varsity-]

what was the reason 4 him stepping down??

and are there any possible replacements already on the list??

[monk]

I agree with a lot of what's being said, but you guys are making too much of my comment about college level experience. No, college experience doesn't guarantee success at the high school level. I'm not saying it does. What I was trying to ask was how can you just throw out a candidate with a solid resume just because he has no ties to Minford? I'm not Perdas' agent. As a matter of fact, I've stated in a previous post who I personally would like to see get the job (Bradford). The only reason I know of him is because I've been down to four or five SSU games this year. And the only reason I say "a solid resume" is because I think most people would agree that any coach who's spent time on Robin Hagen-Smith's staff has a solid resume.

[Incognito]

Wasn't Copley an assistant to Hagen-Smith? If Strickland puts his name I think he moves to the top of the list? But for how long will he stay at Minford before he retires? Shoemaker would be my next pick because he is from Minford. He relates to the kids here more so than he does at Portsmouth. I do not know very much about the other names being thrown around so I will not comment on them.

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Yes, he was the assistant prior to Perdas

[art_vandelay]

LOL...I guarantee after the past 2 years of Webster basketball that college experience doesn't guarantee anything. It goes to show that it boils down to the Jimmys and Joes more than the X's and O's.*

[marshallman]

Minford will probably not make a decision until after the school year is over. The paper stated they will wait to see what teachers leave or retire to open up anything for a position and if not then hire from the outside if need be.