D VI R23 Qtrs: Trimble (7-3) at Symmes Valley (9-1)

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Great game. Just got home valley symmes. Trimble had their chances. The last TD pass was inches from going 90 Yards for an interception by #4 for the Cats. They say football is a game of inches.
The key stat was 4 turnovers for the cats and 0 for the vikings. 21 of Symmes Valley points were after tomcat turnovers.
Good job by the Tomcat Seniors tonight they fought back and made G-Town proud.
Now for the good news. Trimble had 2 Freshman and 6 Sophomores play most of the game tonight and got very valuable playoff experience against a good and very big Valley team.
Good luck to the Vikings next week you were really great host and your team is well coached and plays extremely hard.
Cats good luck in basketball and wrestling and lets start lifting for next year.


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Congrats SV!


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Well football is over week 11, AGAIN for Trimble. Things need to be evaluated with the football program. The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Great job to the Trimble KIDS on a great season!!! :razz:


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any stats from this game?


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I know expectations are always high in Tomcat land but you gave SV fits and had a very good year while playing lots of underclassmen!!! Your future looks very bright!!!


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I don't understand the coaching calls on this game.

You put a kid in the wildcat formation and drives the cats down the field 2 drives in a row and SV had no answer for it. Trimble gets the ball back with 2:30 left with all 3 time outs left then you put the regular qb back in there and throws a pick first play. If something is work why do you change it? The starting qb was only able to put up 6 points thru 3 quarter but the wildcat formation put 12 points on the board in the matter of 6 minutes.

Also, Trimble scores there last td making it 21-18. Why don't you go for 2 then only be down 21-20, incase you do give up another SV td and then its only 28-20 still a one position game. The extra point did nothing for you.

I know the refs wasn't the best but, Trimble had there chances to win the game.

If anyone has an answer to that then please post.


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Trimble does have some nice underclassman talent coming back. Would have liked to have seen what they could have done in the TVC OHIO, but the Trimble admin decided to stay in the boring Hocking.

You never know, some of those Tomcat players may want to come play for NY. NY does play the more exciting schedule!
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NYBuckeye96 wrote:Trimble does have some nice underclassman talent coming back. Would have liked to have seen what they could have done in the TVC OHIO, but the Trimble admin decided to stay in the boring Hocking.

You never know, some of those Tomcat players may want to come play for NY. NY does play the more exciting schedule!
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Agreed, NY does play a more exciting schedule, and they have a better football program than Trimble. Most people that send their kids to Trimble, have pride and respect for our school for what it used to be. Over the years there has been a steady decline in community involvement and support for our program. There are always conversations being voiced throughout football season when people aren't happy, about why does Trimble not strive to be the best, why are life lessons not being implemented into the kids through hard work and discipline? There are questions that need to be asked, and answers that need to be given. There are people that are not backing the football program because their kids are not getting what they want them to get from the current program. So maybe you NYBuckeye(^ can be quoted in the future as being the one that made the call that maybe some of those Tomcat Players may want to come and play for NY, or even Athens!! :122246


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^^ Yes let's all head over the hill and continue to lose to any quality opponents we might face. If you are going to move to a better program at least go to one that can win at the next level. Don't jump out to the pan and into the fire.


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I guess Newark Catholic and Bishop Ready aren't quality non-league wins?


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Heavy D wrote:^^ Yes let's all head over the hill and continue to lose to any quality opponents we might face. If you are going to move to a better program at least go to one that can win at the next level. Don't jump out to the pan and into the fire.
It will be a moot point after consolidation!


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Just to clear up a few things. The Tomcats scored the 2nd TD of the game going down the field in Wildcat formation putting the cats down 21-12. The 3rd formation they went right down the field passing the ball with the first team QB making the score 21-19. Then they threw the int. on the first play.
To kick the extra point or go for two? 21-18 with the extra point you make the score 21-19 and now you have the card tells you to kick the x-point so you can win with a field goal. The tomcat defense got the stop they needed but unfortunately they turned it right back over.

Also the Weight room for the cats was open 3 times a day for 4 days a week. it was also open at 6am in the winter and after school also. Unfortunately some of the players didn't seem to find the place like they should have so who's fault is that??? Not to many division 6 schools have the weight room open that much.
The cats have youth returning it will depend upon the players to unite together and make sure they get their teammates in the weight room and throw the football around in the offseason to have a special season next year.


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:I guess Newark Catholic and Bishop Ready aren't quality non-league wins?

newark catholic went 5-5 and bishop ready went 4-6.
These arent the Newark Catholic and Bishop ready of old.


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Yet, I'm sure Newark Catholic and Bishop Ready would have went undefeated playing Trimble's schedule, if you have them playing Trimble instead of NY, they go 10-0.

Even Ready beat Coal Grove.


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:Yet, I'm sure Newark Catholic and Bishop Ready would have went undefeated playing Trimble's schedule, if you have them playing Trimble instead of NY, they go 10-0.

Even Ready beat Coal Grove.
Maybe, maybe not. But playing who they did they had losing records. Nelsonville beat 3 teams with winning records and all are in the TVC. The two in the Ohio division didn't beat anyone with a winning record except when they played each other. So no, this past season Nelsonville's schedule was not all that great except for the two teams they lost to. Go beat some teams with winning records who have also beaten quality teams and then start pounding your chest. In the past several years your wins have been against teams during down years for the most part.


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Heavy D wrote: Go beat some teams with winning records who have also beaten quality teams and then start pounding your chest. In the past several years your wins have been against teams during down years for the most part.

It's laughable that someone from Trimble would call NY's schedule weak! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

When was the last time Trimble played Athens, Logan, Newark Catholic or Bishop Ready????

When was the last time Trimble played Meigs or Wellston for that matter?

Keep playing the Miller's of the world and keep wondering why people don't go to Trimble games as often as they did in years past.


After NY beats Trimble in Week 1, weeks 2-10 kinda of suck don't they? I guess Wahama in week 2 might be a semi-interesting game. Not much to look forward to after that though.


I just wonder which happens first --- consolidation or the state condemning the football field in Glouster?



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NYBuckeye96 wrote:
Heavy D wrote: Go beat some teams with winning records who have also beaten quality teams and then start pounding your chest. In the past several years your wins have been against teams during down years for the most part.

It's laughable that someone from Trimble would call NY's schedule weak! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

When was the last time Trimble played Athens, Logan, Newark Catholic or Bishop Ready????

When was the last time Trimble played Meigs or Wellston for that matter?

Keep playing the Miller's of the world and keep wondering why people don't go to Trimble games as often as they did in years past.


After NY beats Trimble in Week 1, weeks 2-10 kinda of suck don't they? I guess Wahama in week 2 might be a semi-interesting game. Not much to look forward to after that though.


I just wonder which happens first --- consolidation or the state condemning the football field in Glouster?

Hey I agree with you wholeheartedly. Trimble's schedule sucks, and I have said that many times. Hopefully that will change sometime soon, but I doubt that will happen until those in charge change. The difference b/t the two of us is that I admit our weaknesses, and you justify yours. Please tell me you don't really think Nelsonville had a tough schedule this year. If so, you are living in fantasy land. Consolidation may come if the Gov has his way. Maybe then, when Phil is the HC, a first round game can be won. But I doubt anything past that. Until then, keep playing those tough Ohio division teams that can't win a decent non league game and pound your chest about those second place finishes. Recruit a few more players from surrounding schools and you might win another TVC title in a few years if Athens has a down year. BTW when is the last time an Ohio Division team won a playoff game?

Also, in the past few years Trimble played Shadyside, Fort Loramie, Oak Hill and Crooksville to name a few. You remember Crooksville don't you? That is the team you dropped cause you couldn't beat them. So Trimble has had some better schedules than what they have now. They need to go back to that.


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Heavy D wrote: Hey I agree with you wholeheartedly. Trimble's schedule sucks, and I have said that many times. Hopefully that will change sometime soon, but I doubt that will happen until those in charge change. The difference b/t the two of us is that I admit our weaknesses, and you justify yours. Please tell me you don't really think Nelsonville had a tough schedule this year. If so, you are living in fantasy land. Consolidation may come if the Gov has his way. Maybe then, when Phil is the HC, a first round game can be won. But I doubt anything past that. Until then, keep playing those tough Ohio division teams that can't win a decent non league game and pound your chest about those second place finishes. Recruit a few more players from surrounding schools and you might win another TVC title in a few years if Athens has a down year. BTW when is the last time an Ohio Division team won a playoff game?

Also, in the past few years Trimble played Shadyside, Fort Loramie, Oak Hill and Crooksville to name a few. You remember Crooksville don't you? That is the team you dropped cause you couldn't beat them. So Trimble has had some better schedules than what they have now. They need to go back to that.

NY has played Crooksville 13 times and is 6-7 in the all-time series. NY and Crooksville played 3 times in the last decade and Crooksville won two of those three.

Granted, the teams NY beat might not have made the playoffs, when those games were scheduled, for all we knew Logan, Newark Catholic and Bishop Ready would have been 10-0 teams. As recently as 2007, Newark Catholic was state champions. NY scheduled teams that usually dominate versus scheduling teams that rarely win. That is the key difference.

You make it sound like Athens just dominates NY. NY won 18 of the previous 20 games against Athens prior to this year and this years game went to OT when both were undefeated. Not bad for playing a school that has over twice the enrollment as NY.

I have already said on other threads that I think the TVC OHIO has been down since the year 2000. However, if you compare the Ohio to the Hocking, the Ohio looks like the OCC. So while the Ohio might not have dominated in the past decade, it at least has fared much better than the Hocking. Trimble had the chance to upgrade to the Ohio, but chose not to.

I have also said on other threads that I don't think any NY team this decade has been as good as the teams from the early 80s and most of the 90s. Those teams could knock off a Logan in years Logan won the SEOAL. I'm going to post a thread later this week comparing the 2011 team to the teams of NY past. Of 45 teams in Buckeye history, in my opinion from researching Buckeye history, the '11 team cracks the top 10 which is certainly saying something, but there are several NY teams that were better, which I will discuss in the thread.

NY has played winning football and has played teams that fans want to see NY play. Even in 2011, other than Berne Union, how could you argue that NY should not have played any team on the schedule? NY has packed Boston Field numerous times. NY plays Trimble week 1, and win or lose, there are a lot of fun matchups ahead. The younger Buckeyes have had good seasons as well. I think the 5th/6th grade Buckeyes have been especially dominate this year. As usual, NY should be in the title picture most years. A 6-4 season at NY is considered bad. I think NY will carry on its tradition nicely in the coming years whether the state consolidates someone with us or not.


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I wanted Trimble in the Ohio division. But apparently our coach does not. As far as the Hocking division, we are victims of whoever the league votes in at this point.


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Heavy D wrote:I wanted Trimble in the Ohio division. But apparently our coach does not. As far as the Hocking division, we are victims of whoever the league votes in at this point.

I thought Trimble should have been in the Ohio too. There are no indications that Trimble could not compete in the Ohio, and it would have drew additional interest in fans to attend games for the Tomcats. League championships would be more difficult to come by, but I think overall it would have made Trimble stronger come playoff time in most sports.


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