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Tiger of the past
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Re: little league

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BlindWhiteHat wrote:That is my point. No league says that, but I agree some people do. If so, spend more of your time so they will spend less of theirs "helping" out.


I must jump in on this one. First off, people shouldn't be on a league board unless they expect to be at the field 4-5 nights per week during regular season. My son has played in several different leagues depending on where we lived at the time, and I must say that once he was older and I knew the board members, several (not just one or two) were present nightly. The president was almost always there. It was a given, that if they wanted the position and wanted to run the league right, they would be there. If not, they were voted out and another was voted in who would do the job the way it should be done!

As for volunteering, I believe that Russell Little League was the best that I witnessed when it came to parents giving their time. When my son played little league baseball there I can't say that I knew of a single parent who didn't serve their time at the concession stand, while several mothers spent a week or two as concession "supervisor" to assure that the scheduled workers were called and aware of their duty days that week. Things ran smoothly, umpires were paid for the 9 & up teams, and all coaches did their time and more when it came to umpiring the younger teams. Everyone didn't ALWAYS get along, but for the most part, it was a great league. I attribute much of this to the late Carl Stevens, who dedicated most of his life to helping the kids! My boys will always have a place in their hearts for this man whom they would have never known had he not given so much to little league baseball.

I haven't seen the organization being so great when my son played for other leagues, such as one in southern Ohio. The concession stand was always short handed and the parents didn't even seem to know when they were scheduled to work. In KY, many years ago, a team was assigned a week to share with another team, so that they wouldn't have to work during their own child's games. Each parent ended up working a night during that week or two "half nights". That was part of the expectation, stated when the child signed up to play. If the parent couldn't work there was a list of students who were 14 or older who they could pay to fill their slot. These kids were trained as to concession procedures, etc. Like I said, very well organized!

If a parent wanted to help their child's team, they were never turned away for "practicing too much" in the past when they had coached, or other such non-sense as I have heard of lately. As anyone who knows anything about baseball knows, when you have a team of 11 or more children, the more stations you have, the more the child is going to get out of the practice. Some of the local little league teams needs to watch the KY Mudcats practice. Parents aren't turned away, they are a welcome addition to each and every practice. They have 10 or more stations going at all times and their record is a testiment to their success. When leagues start turning parents away from even being allowed to help on the field, there is definitely a power struggle/personal issue going on as opposed to wanting what's best for the team. Unless a parent has been unfair to children or is a risk to the safety of children, banning parents from helping on the field is simply and udderly crazy. How one can ask for more volunteers yet turn some away is beyond me...Unfortunately, it's the kids that suffer. Any board or board president that allows this to occur, let alone rules on it should all be asked to step down. I recently heard of this happening locally and am amazed. Yet the same people state that they want people to "spend more of your time so they will spend less of theirs "helping" out". Make up your mind...People are able and willing, yet they are turned away. This will eventually cost Ohio many good baseball players as they will move to other leagues next year, but in the mean time, this year will be a wasted year due to personal problems and a desire to have too much control. One shouldn't let personal issues stand in the way of what's best for children. Any teacher should know this. Especially a teacher who is elected to serve children on a little league board! I would love to hear more, as I know how valuable a parent's help is on a team at such a young age! I no longer live in the area, and still have heard of all of the controversy. I'm glad my son is no longer playing there!


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Re: little league

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Excellent post Jim, //// and tiger of the past. LL is an excellent organization that takes VOLUNTEERS to make it work well. I've spent a few springs and summers involved in the local league as well as the district level. As is the case in almost every situation, the kids are fine to deal with it but its the adults who ruin the fun for everyone. If you as a parent do not like the way the league is run or its rules, by all means run for a position on the local LL board. As someone else stated, also be willing to spend 5-6 days a week at the field so other people can watch you work your rear end off. Is the league perfect? No! Can you improve the league? Only you can answer that question.


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I went to the fun day for RH today and they let a board members son enter into a home run derby for both 11 and 12 year olds. when he should have only entered into only one. This child ended up getting a trophy in the league he was not supposed to be in. I find that very unfair to the other children. He should have only been allowed to enter into one. :evil:


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homerunking wrote:I went to the fun day for RH today and they let a board members son enter into a home run derby for both 11 and 12 year olds. when he should have only entered into only one. This child ended up getting a trophy in the league he was not supposed to be in. I find that very unfair to the other children. He should have only been allowed to enter into one. :evil:

he should never have won that trophy


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Easy, you may want to ask before you assume stuff. The winner of the homerun derby in the 11 year old division was 11 years old. He did however enter with the 12 year olds as well, and did pay his entry fee for both and did not win the 12 year old as young redmen's boy won it. Just FYI.


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well im sorry i did not know you were aloud to enter both because if i did my son wouldve entered both


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pleasanttiger post something on allstar coaches


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homerunking wrote:well im sorry i did not know you were aloud to enter both because if i did my son wouldve entered both


I understand, however i believe it was an oversight where he accidentally hit with the 12s first before they realized he should have been hitting for the 11s, so they told him in order to hit with the 11s he must pay another entry fee. I belive it was just a mistake.


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this is like minford ????


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First of all your reply about a board members son participation in the 11 & 12 yr old home run derby is bull sh??. When you try to do something good for the league, people like you always have to start something you know nothing about. My son was put in the 12 yr old division by mistake & yes he did enter the 11 yr old division (which is what age he is) & yes he did WIN. (Proud PAPA) If you had a problem with that, then why didn't you say something about it why you was there, instead of going home and hiding behind a computer screen and starting sh?? you know nothing about or even better you could have contacted his proud (PAPA) yourself in person & I would have been more than happy to explain to you the misconfusion you have pondered on. The same mistake happened on the tee-ball field during the home run derby, but you didn't hear anyone complain about it. As for your comment about a board members son, That is my son you're speaking of & I don't appreciate you singling my kid out. Since it seems by your post that you just joined the SEOP maybe you should find another hobby to take up instead of commenting about other people's kids. You know who I am, I don't know who you are yet, but if you have anymore problems come to me not SEOP.


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like i said i did not know that you were aloud to enter both if so my son wouldve


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homerunking wrote:like i said i did not know that you were aloud to enter both if so my son wouldve



I'm not sure it would have been an issue because i think the winners were the only kids that hit a homerun anyway. (correct me if i'm wrong)
It was a good event though with some good shots to the outfield

P.S. There is a suggestion/complaint box on the field


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Homerunking, After reading your response I honestly don't believe you had a child that participated in the home run derby. I know all the kids that did participate. I also know there parents & the respect they have for all the kids. It was not just about winning a trophy, It was about getting all the kids & parents together, having fun & trying to raise some honest funds to put towards the fields & facilities. And guess what, IT WAS A SUCCESS. So homerunking, Don't hide behind a computer key board and pretend to be someone you're not.


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baseball fan wrote:Homerunking, After reading your response I honestly don't believe you had a child that participated in the home run derby. I know all the kids that did participate. I also know there parents & the respect they have for all the kids. It was not just about winning a trophy, It was about getting all the kids & parents together, having fun & trying to raise some honest funds to put towards the fields & facilities. And guess what, IT WAS A SUCCESS. So homerunking, Don't hide behind a computer key board and pretend to be someone you're not.
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Re: little league

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im glad my kids are not in this league at the hill :roll: :roll:

all the drama on here , i can only imagine whats its like on site.
EVERYBODY STARIN AT EVERYBODY ELSE WONDERING WHOS THAT PERSON BEHIND THAT KEYBOARD>>>>>> :aaaaa12 :aaaaa24


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Re: little league

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I would like to thank those who put the "fun day" together. All the work and the kids had fun and I hope the money raised helps rhll. Rock Hill has the same issues as everyone else, people just want to talk more about it~~ haha Let the kids just play ball and enjoy the year.


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