Week 10 West @ Burg

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siderman wrote:
N B Heat wrote:SIDERMAN: THe last two years playing West I've gained alot of respect for there program they've turned the corner.and knowing Auger personally nothing but class .
West has a fine group of kids. Alot of religious guys also. But we will forever have the rep we got in the 80's. Doesn't matter what they do.

Dont forget the 90's too! LOL.

I agree, West has definitely cleaned up their act on the field. They still play physical, but they stop at the whistle. I think that says a lot for what Triplett put into the program and is now being continued by Shaffer.


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Bleeding Red wrote:I like West in this matchup with open field tackling being the key. Both teams are sure to break some runs and the tackling I saw on a few key plays against Valley was atrocious. Sure Keller is a big boy and hard to bring down, but it is impossible to tackle someone from your knees with your head down in the open field. West's defensive backs are physical and dont shy from contact when they break down to tackle.

Its funny that everyone in the stadium knows what Burg is going to do based on their formation. Trips right and Shears scrambles to the trips, dragging every defender across the field, then turns and runs to the backside. Twins right and left and he runs up the middle. They just spread the defense out and run to the backside. But no defense has been able to contain him. That still gets the bulk of Burg's yards on the ground.

It will be interesting to see if West doesnt take a kid like Bricker or Auger and have them spy on Shears every play.
It will be interesting to see how West defends them. Valley gashed us at times out of the spread. But they had the dominate tailback to go with a great Qb and receiver. Burg has a couple nice backs that run hard, but they aren't Keller. After Valley spread us out, Keller could find the seams and cutback lanes.

We have a heck of an athlete in Austin Bricker that we can use as a nickel look. Will we stay with the 5-2 or try some nickel?


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siderman-- good to hear about those current players. They showed alot of class and self control in losing a tough conference game out to lucasville . not that my opinion matters much to anyone in west ports but they gained alot of respect in my eyes that night. They did everything right but fall a few points short on the scoreboard. MD


as far as the game goes I have a hunch that the valley game took alot out of the burg and for some reason the size/strength issue will really show this week. not an intentional kiss of death but I'm picking West this week. good luck to both


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N B Heat wrote:SIDER4LIFE: After talking to some of the players from Valley no one really knows what those kids had to play through to come out victorious. Bogus pf's and being spit on and then trying to control themselves knowing if they retaliated they would be flagged and they even told the refs which kid was doing it nothing done about it. I lost alot of respect for that program that night. And gained alot of respect for West !
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Burg will haver to bring there "A" game that is for sure. Both teams basically have to win to continue playing in week 11. It is the last home game in front of the old home bleachers. The stadium will not even look the same next year, albeit the visitors section, so that might be a little extra motivation for the Pirates, (as if winning gets you antohter week isn't enough.LOL)


Burg needs to mix in some nerw plays. Was told by a friend of mine that was at the Burg-Valley game that Burg basically runs the same 5-6 plays during the game and Valley was able to adjust to that.


I would bring out every flea flicker, triple reverse, halback pass trick play that I could. This is a must win situation so I would empty the playbook
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wobycat wrote:
N B Heat wrote:SIDER4LIFE: After talking to some of the players from Valley no one really knows what those kids had to play through to come out victorious. Bogus pf's and being spit on and then trying to control themselves knowing if they retaliated they would be flagged and they even told the refs which kid was doing it nothing done about it. I lost alot of respect for that program that night. And gained alot of respect for West !
I heard the same thing, and I also heard that the kid was being dealt with. I know for a fact the coaching staff will not tolerate that kind of behavior. I agree it tarnished Valley's win, but Burg won't let that continue. As far as the ref's, I think fans have this sense of being cheated on the home field. As a former official, athletic directors do the best they can to get the best they can on Friday night. These guys work in crews from local chapters. They are not individually hand picked. I agree they were not that good, but it's not some conspiracy of where they are trying to cheat a team.

And West is becoming a class program as well as Valley.
I heard and saw some of the same, and I'm sure Burg coaches will deal with it SWIFTLY. Good Luck to both teams as potential opponents in the playoffs.


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That's a shame. You hate to see that anywhere, but especially with the team you follow. I'm sure alot of players do it, he just happened to get caught and now should be punished for it.


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In a 5-2 it will be hard to stop a spread offense, especially when the QB is going to run 80% of the time. Main thing is to contain the d ends and not let Burg's QB scramble to the back side away from the trips wide. In a 5-2 if the ends dont contain the edge and the only 2 LB's get sucked in OR get into coverage, there is nobody home. That is Burg's bread and butter.

One thing that really stood out in the Valley/Burg game was Valley's #11. That kid played lights out in pass coverage. Shears threw a few really nice balls downfield and the kid seemed to always be there to break up the pass. I know that West has some big hitters in the secondary, but they have to make plays on the ball when they get into pass coverage and Shears throws it up in the air.


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lock the thread , the professor has spoken. :lol: :lol: :lol: JK laugh bleeder, it's what keeps you young ... MD


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ManitouDan wrote:lock the thread , the professor has spoken. :lol: :lol: :lol: JK laugh bleeder, it's what keeps you young ... MD

I agree with you but I guess the professor never thought about droping ends off or just coming after the QB.

That is right guess what defense Ironton plays 5-2.


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OSU 77 wrote:
ManitouDan wrote:lock the thread , the professor has spoken. :lol: :lol: :lol: JK laugh bleeder, it's what keeps you young ... MD

I agree with you but I guess the professor never thought about droping ends off or just coming after the QB.

That is right guess what defense Ironton plays 5-2.
true. But even Ironton plays a little 3-3-5 against spread teams; including at times, Wheelersburg.


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Definitely rooting for West here, but it's gonna be a shootout. After seeing West's D struggle early in the passing game against Northwest, it's gonna be a tough game for their secondary. The key for them is to shut the pass game down early to make Burg keep it on the ground and challenge the line. I haven't seen a QB in the area who could outrun Auger, Bricker, or Summers, but then again, I haven't seen Shears play. Unless either team can get their backs to have a breakout game, whoever can move the ball through the air will win this game. I'm gonna take West 35-27, scoring a touchdown in the final minutes to put the game away.


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You have to stay true to what got you to where you are. Unless a team comes out in 4 or 5 wide you can stay in a 5-2 and be fine. Even if you get a trips look your still fine. You need to be able to get and keep pressure on the QB. It should be a hard fought game as always. How better to close Ed Miller stadium than with a classic West vs. Wheelerburg match up.


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Wow, if true it was done, our coach will deal with them. But however me and many others was watching the game close and why did we seem to miss all of this taking place? Is NB Heat from Valley or West? just asking.Seems you are taking the word of some ball players? Seems odd that you and coop seem to be the only two that seen this...Wheelersburg is a class act and will always be, our coaches do not put up with it any other way.


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Proud_Pirate wrote:Wow, if true it was done, our coach will deal with them. But however me and many others was watching the game close and why did we seem to miss all of this taking place? Is NB Heat from Valley or West? just asking.Seems you are taking the word of some ball players? Seems odd that you and coop seem to be the only two that seen this...Wheelersburg is a class act and will always be, our coaches do not put up with it any other way.
WOW! I sure didn't see it either but of course I can't see everyone at once. I haven't heard anyone talking about it. Makes me wonder if it's just rumors. No school likes Burg. Never has and never will. I am one fan that will not believe it unless I hear it from a reliable source. If it is true then the boy should be punished.


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noles_fan wrote:You have to stay true to what got you to where you are. Unless a team comes out in 4 or 5 wide you can stay in a 5-2 and be fine. Even if you get a trips look your still fine. You need to be able to get and keep pressure on the QB. It should be a hard fought game as always. How better to close Ed Miller stadium than with a classic West vs. Wheelerburg match up.
That's true, you ride the horse that got you there. But you have to be prepared to change if it isn't working. NW came out in the shotgun-5 Wide and we struggled with it at first. You know Burg saw that. Bleeding Red was right, from watching them their gonna line up in trips and stuff to try and move our safeties so Shears can run. They pass it just to show it, but their main offense is him running. If you can play a good solid zone and prevent the big play, the 5-2 does allow you to widen your ends out and contain/pressure the QB. Hopefully this will happen.


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Proud_Pirate wrote:Wow, if true it was done, our coach will deal with them. But however me and many others was watching the game close and why did we seem to miss all of this taking place? Is NB Heat from Valley or West? just asking.Seems you are taking the word of some ball players? Seems odd that you and coop seem to be the only two that seen this...Wheelersburg is a class act and will always be, our coaches do not put up with it any other way.
Didn't see it during the game either, but that could easily be overlooked. But wobycat is from Burg and he seemed to know about it. And just because one kid loses composure, it doesn't mean the program isn't respected or a class act. Things get chippy and sometimes things happen... if it did happen the only thing wrong would be a coach not taking care of the situation.


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Bo_Diaz wrote:
Proud_Pirate wrote:Wow, if true it was done, our coach will deal with them. But however me and many others was watching the game close and why did we seem to miss all of this taking place? Is NB Heat from Valley or West? just asking.Seems you are taking the word of some ball players? Seems odd that you and coop seem to be the only two that seen this...Wheelersburg is a class act and will always be, our coaches do not put up with it any other way.
Didn't see it during the game either, but that could easily be overlooked. But wobycat is from Burg and he seemed to know about it. And just because one kid loses composure, it doesn't mean the program isn't respected or a class act. Things get chippy and sometimes things happen... if it did happen the only thing wrong would be a coach not taking care of the situation.
I saw 2 or 3 occasions of different things...twisting the anke while getting up, pushing, etc...little things like that and I heard about some of the spitting. Of course no one in the stands is going to see that.


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PIRATE_FAN wrote:
Proud_Pirate wrote:Wow, if true it was done, our coach will deal with them. But however me and many others was watching the game close and why did we seem to miss all of this taking place? Is NB Heat from Valley or West? just asking.Seems you are taking the word of some ball players? Seems odd that you and coop seem to be the only two that seen this...Wheelersburg is a class act and will always be, our coaches do not put up with it any other way.
WOW! I sure didn't see it either but of course I can't see everyone at once. I haven't heard anyone talking about it. Makes me wonder if it's just rumors. No school likes Burg. Never has and never will. I am one fan that will not believe it unless I hear it from a reliable source. If it is true then the boy should be punished.
I'm not THAT old, and I KNOW what I SAW, so if you want to take that as a rumor, so be it. Its over and done now so back to the Burg vs West game...Burg-Valley sportsmanship issues shouldnt be taking away from what is essentially a playoff game!


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chicken_coop wrote:
PIRATE_FAN wrote:
Proud_Pirate wrote:Wow, if true it was done, our coach will deal with them. But however me and many others was watching the game close and why did we seem to miss all of this taking place? Is NB Heat from Valley or West? just asking.Seems you are taking the word of some ball players? Seems odd that you and coop seem to be the only two that seen this...Wheelersburg is a class act and will always be, our coaches do not put up with it any other way.
WOW! I sure didn't see it either but of course I can't see everyone at once. I haven't heard anyone talking about it. Makes me wonder if it's just rumors. No school likes Burg. Never has and never will. I am one fan that will not believe it unless I hear it from a reliable source. If it is true then the boy should be punished.
I'm not THAT old, and I KNOW what I SAW, so if you want to take that as a rumor, so be it. Its over and done now so back to the Burg vs West game...Burg-Valley sportsmanship issues shouldnt be taking away from what is essentially a playoff game!
I was just giving my opinion. It's ok for you to get on here and talk about it but when someone says they don't know if it happened or not you try tell them to drop it?! You posted about it before me on the Burg vs West thread. As you can see I never once said it was a rumor. I just said I wonder if it is. Two totally different things. Don't put words in my mouth.


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