TVC-Ohio League Leaders

[93Bulldog]

The first 'LEAGUE LEADERBOARD' is completed for the Ohio Division ... http://trivalleyconference.com/Leaderboards.html

Feel free to fire up the 'PLAYER OF THE YEAR' discussion.

[NYBUX]

NICE;;;; WHY WOULD YOU SPLIT THE NY VOTES

CAUSE WE GOT MORE WEAPONS THAN ANYONE ELSE THATS WHY

[NYFan54]

Honestly, I think it comes down to who wills their team to victory in week 10. Will it be Mr. Sharp who runs all over the NY defense, Dustin Young who goes for the big gains and avoids a tough Rider kid wearing the green and gold, or Nathan Dean who methodically picks away at the Athens secondary? I chose the QB....

[Orange and Brown]

It is a toss up between Dean and young for me. both have played outstanding to this point but we can't over look Sharp he is the heart of the Athens offense.

[93Bulldog]

Don't forget about Bennett for Alexander either ... (As Rusty pointed out on his radio show Friday night) - If it was a case for MVP (most valuable player) then Bennett would have a great chance of winning it ... The kid does everything for the Spartans. 5 touchdowns rushing Friday, 189 yards gained on the ground, had 121 yards passing, threw 2 TD's and I believe he even had an INT versus the Vikings as well. I mean, that's a darn good game ... Bennett accounted for 310 yards of offense and was involved in 7 of the Spartans touchdowns.

In terms of the team winning the league being rewarded with P.O.Y honors: Just remember ... Athens and NY shared a league title in 2009 - but Jeremy Smith (Meigs) actually won the award and not Derek Arnold or Trey Harris.

[NYBUX]

The difference at NY is they don't care who gets the glory as long as they get the win.
This is the most unselfish group of young men that I have ever seen.
The paint on the wall is what matters most to ALL of them.

GO BUCKEYES YOU ARE ALL THE LEAGUE LEADERS

[93Bulldog]

I'm sure ALL the teams, players and coaches feel that way NYBUX ...

Now, folks on SEOPS, media personel and fans ... well, that's a different story.

[NYBUX]

I'm sure ALL the teams, players and coaches feel that way NYBUX ...

Now, folks on SEOPS, media personel and fans ... well, that's a different story.

You split the NY votes on purpose!
You left out Meigs and Vinton That is also kinda classless.

In the end we will have

MORE PAINT ON THE WALL...............PERIOD

[93Bulldog]

OMG - for real? Usually the P.O.Y award is a two-or-three player race ... I picked the 5 guys who I thought had a chance ...

"Split the NY votes on purpose" ... lol ... You can't be serious, right? And I hear I thought I was 'favoring' NY by picking two players from one team ... go figure.

Let me see if I can fix the pole ... What do you want me to do - take off Dustin Young? Yea right, Dustin just had 108 yards & 2 TD's in his first TVC-Ohio game of the season. (The P.O.Y award is given to performances during league play - not for the entire season.) ... Do you want me to take off Nathan Dean? Oh wait - he just threw for 219 yards and 3 TD's and leads the Ohio divisionj in passing after one game.

See my point NYBUX - I didn't split the vote: blame coach Boston for having a 'balanced attack' this year ... lol

[NYBUX]

OMG - for real? Usually the P.O.Y award is a two-or-three player race ... I picked the 5 guys who I thought had a chance ...

"Split the NY votes on purpose" ... lol ... You can't be serious, right? And I hear I thought I was 'favoring' NY by picking two players from one team ... go figure.

Let me see if I can fix the pole ... What do you want me to do - take off Dustin Young? Yea right, Dustin just had 108 yards & 2 TD's in his first TVC-Ohio game of the season. (The P.O.Y award is given to performances during league play - not for the entire season.) ... Do you want me to take off Nathan Dean? Oh wait - he just threw for 219 yards and 3 TD's and leads the Ohio divisionj in passing after one game.

See my point NYBUX - I didn't split the vote: blame coach Boston for having a 'balanced attack' this year ... lol

I guess after 1 league game Meigs and Vinton arent worthy.
Mr. skinner has over 800 yds under his belt but he is also not worthy in your poll??

As I said WE HAVE TOO MANY WEAPONS

and we will have
MORE PAINT ON THE WALL

[93Bulldog]

Skinner does a great job for the 'Dogs and I thought about adding him - but he only gets about 8-or-9 passing attempts a game (versus Meigs he was 5-of-9 for 60 yards) ... If we were talking about leadership and intangibles; Josh would be right there in the mix ... But unfortunatly, awards are driven by stats ... Dean (NY) had 22 pass attempts, completed 17 of them and threw 3 TD's against Wellston.

I'm not really a big fan of handing out credits to just a few players: But don't hate the messenger here - the league/media/etc...etc... comes up with these awards (no me).

And since I would actually rather 'spread out the wealth' - I don't get too worried about not adding a player from Meigs or Vinton cause I know their names will come up when we hit the hardwood. Players like SKINNER, DANIEL KLINE, JESSE SMITH (Meigs), L.B. REMY (VC) ... Will have their names being thrown around all winter.

[NY BUCKS]

nothing to get upset about.Why dose everybody come after NY.Well let me say this .NY will not back down from anybody.Thats what makes everybody mad.weeks 7 8 9 10 and so on. NY WILL BE MORE THAN READY......WEEK 10 NY WILL HAVE PAINT BRUSHES IN HAND.

[buckeye_nut]

Sure hate to see this kind of talk when you guys that say the most have nothing to do with who wins POY, kind of funny to listen to it though, just remember...THOSE WHO BRAG THE MOST>>>>LAG THE MOST......let them play it out, at the end of the season there will be no doubt. Maybe it wont even be a player from NY or Athens, but im guessing it will be.

[gridiron fan]

I dont really think people come at Nelsonville-York . . . it's more of a perception on some people on Nelsonville-York's end. I have been around high school football in this area for a lot of years and appreciate what Nelsonville-York has accomplished as much as the next guy, but winning league title after league title in an area that is quality football deprived and then falling flat on their face in the first round of the playoffs doesn't constitute the level of arrogance conveyed by a lot of Nelsonville-York faithful. I can't personally put the Buckeyes in the same class as some of the "elite public programs" in the state that have mutiple state championships and/or state championship appearances like Ironton, Amanda-Clearcreek, St. Henry and Steubenville for example (see below). People in Ironton and Amanda are humored by Nelsonville-York's notion that they are in the same class as their programs.

OHSAA All-Time State Football Tournament Participation:

Amanda-Clearcreek - 2010, 2009, 2006, 2004 (2nd), 2003 (2nd), 2002, 2001, 2000 (1st), 1999 (1st), 1997 (2nd), 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1991, 1989, 1985

Ironton - 2010, 2009, 2008, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999 (2nd), 1998, 1995, 1994, 1993 (2nd), 1992 (2nd), 1991, 1990, 1989 (1st), 1988 (2nd), 1987, 1986, 1985, 1982 (2nd), 1980, 1979 (1st), 1975, 1973 (2nd)

St. Henry - 2009, 2006 (1st), 2004 (1st), 1999 (2nd), 1998, 1997, 1996 (2nd), 1995 (1st), 1994 (1st), 1993, 1992 (1st), 1990 (1st), 1987, 1986

Steubenville - 2010, 2009, 2008 (2nd), 2007, 2006 (1st), 2005 (1st), 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 1999, 1994, 1991, 1990, 1989, 1988 (2nd), 1987 (2nd), 1986, 1985, 1984 (1st), 1983, 1982, 1981

Nelsonville-York - 2010, 2008, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2000, 1998, 1997, 1994, 1992, 1982, 1981 (1st)


To answer the original question, I think it will come down to Young and Sharp with the Nelsonville-York vs. Athens game dictating a lot votes.

93Bulldog . . . Keep up the good work supporting the TVC and generating thought about the games, teams and players.

* Edited to remove unnecessary comments about players. I didn't intend for the comments to be negative, but when I reread them this a.m., I didn't like them.

[93Bulldog]

Sure hate to see this kind of talk when you guys that say the most have nothing to do with who wins POY, kind of funny to listen to it though, just remember...THOSE WHO BRAG THE MOST>>>>LAG THE MOST......let them play it out, at the end of the season there will be no doubt. Maybe it wont even be a player from NY or Athens, but im guessing it will be.

buckeye_nut ... I hope your right about there 'being no doubt at seasons end' ... I just don't see it being that simple. Too many good players, three teams still undefeated and then you have cases where certain teams rely more on just one player than the entire team ... Which is exactly what happened in 2009 - NY and Athens had great seasons with great players - but Jeremy Smith had better stats for Meigs and actually produced against ALL the teams he played in the TVC Ohio that year. The Marauders I think finished 4th in the league - but since they leaned on Smith so much, he ended up having the best overall season (statistically) than any other player.

But seriously - I don't care who wins any post season awards - I just really enjoy watching ALL these kids play ... Its been an awesome season, especially here in Athens County ... The topic/thread is for fun only and gives everyone something to talk about - that's all.

(Thx gridiron fan for the comments)

[NYF]

I haven't been to many games in person, but thanks to Nelsonville cable I have been able to see all the Bulldogs and Buckeye games. To start with, Athens county is blessed with a lot of good players. From what I can see, Sharp would have to be the Offensive MVP. With Dean and Young next. However I have only read about Bennett. He sounds like a player. Sharp just does to much for his team and he is flat out awesome. Young and Dean feed off of each other so I can see votes being split there. Bennett from what I can tell is Alexanders, Sharp. So I can't wait to see him. Like I have said I have seen all the Athens and NY games. Saying Deans stats are inflated is not true. Are you saying he is throwing against 2nd string players? I have all the games DVR so I will show you some stats. As a matter of fact I would be willing to put a nice little buck or two on it that your wrong.
But Grid Fan. As you can tell by my name (NYF =Nelsonville-York Football) I am a NY fan. But love high school football. Yes some of the NY fans go way to far on here, no doubt about it. Most of them I'm guessing never played, or if they did road the bench. Some might be proud but uniformed parents. But there are some of us that are just proud and modest of our football team and what they have done. TVC championships are a goal, so they never take them for granted. Of course winning a playoff game is important, its not like they don't prepare or don't care.
We have been very close a few times, but there have been times it wasn't pretty. But they are kids, they do there best. There day will come. I have never put our program at the level of ACC or Ironton. However, we are proud of our kids, and they put a lot of hard work making Nelsonville-York Football what it is. There's nothing wrong with being proud of that. Go Bucks, Go Dogs, how about a 9-0 and 9-0 game wk 10.

[gridiron fan]

TVC Championships are a great goal and a stepping stone to the playoffs, which is another outstanding goal / accomplishment. I'm not trying to diminish those. And, most of the Nelsonville-York people I have associated with over the years are very proud while maintaining modesty / humility about their success. The point I was making wasn't to the modest Nelsonville-York faithful, but to the ones that get on here and pound their chest.

I apologize for the unnecessary statements about players . . . not my usual MO.

[NYBUX]

Don't forget about Bennett for Alexander either ... (As Rusty pointed out on his radio show Friday night) - If it was a case for MVP (most valuable player) then Bennett would have a great chance of winning it ... The kid does everything for the Spartans. 5 touchdowns rushing Friday, 189 yards gained on the ground, had 121 yards passing, threw 2 TD's and I believe he even had an INT versus the Vikings as well. I mean, that's a darn good game ... Bennett accounted for 310 yards of offense and was involved in 7 of the Spartans touchdowns.

In terms of the team winning the league being rewarded with P.O.Y honors: Just remember ... Athens and NY shared a league title in 2009 - but Jeremy Smith (Meigs) actually won the award and not Derek Arnold or Trey Harris.

I apologize for going about this the wrong way.
I guess what I should have said is, that after only one league game being played, I feel it is premature to be picking a POY. If this poll had been posted after the majority of the games were played the leaders would have been established thus a more accurate canidate list. MY opinions are just that MY opinions................I do not agree with seperating the two NY players as there is a lot of football to be played and they must continue to play as one. It is also OF MY OPINION that unless you have a crystal ball, it is a slap in the face to leave any teams out this early in league play.

[93Bulldog]

It may be a bit premature NYBUX - but it is week 7 of the football season so I thought it would be o.k. to throw out some stuff to ponder.

About comparing NY to other 'elite programs' - that's tough to do - but I put them right up their with most of the programs in Southeastern Ohio ... I know of another Buckeye team that I think is one of the nations elite, but Ohio State has won what? One championship in my lifetime. I mean, Nelsonville Ohio is not actually a 'boom town' ya know - I think they do an outstanding job at excelling with that they have to work with ... Same goes for Glouster and the Trimble Tomcats.

[NYBUX]

I dont really think people come at Nelsonville-York . . . it's more of a perception on some people on Nelsonville-York's end. I have been around high school football in this area for a lot of years and appreciate what Nelsonville-York has accomplished as much as the next guy, but winning league title after league title in an area that is quality football deprived and then falling flat on their face in the first round of the playoffs doesn't constitute the level of arrogance conveyed by a lot of Nelsonville-York faithful. I can't personally put the Buckeyes in the same class as some of the "elite public programs" in the state that have mutiple state championships and/or state championship appearances like Ironton, Amanda-Clearcreek, St. Henry and Steubenville for example (see below). People in Ironton and Amanda are humored by Nelsonville-York's notion that they are in the same class as their programs.

OHSAA All-Time State Football Tournament Participation:

Amanda-Clearcreek - 2010, 2009, 2006, 2004 (2nd), 2003 (2nd), 2002, 2001, 2000 (1st), 1999 (1st), 1997 (2nd), 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1991, 1989, 1985

Ironton - 2010, 2009, 2008, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999 (2nd), 1998, 1995, 1994, 1993 (2nd), 1992 (2nd), 1991, 1990, 1989 (1st), 1988 (2nd), 1987, 1986, 1985, 1982 (2nd), 1980, 1979 (1st), 1975, 1973 (2nd)

St. Henry - 2009, 2006 (1st), 2004 (1st), 1999 (2nd), 1998, 1997, 1996 (2nd), 1995 (1st), 1994 (1st), 1993, 1992 (1st), 1990 (1st), 1987, 1986

Steubenville - 2010, 2009, 2008 (2nd), 2007, 2006 (1st), 2005 (1st), 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 1999, 1994, 1991, 1990, 1989, 1988 (2nd), 1987 (2nd), 1986, 1985, 1984 (1st), 1983, 1982, 1981

Nelsonville-York - 2010, 2008, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2000, 1998, 1997, 1994, 1992, 1982, 1981 (1st)


To answer the original question, I think it will come down to Young and Sharp with the Nelsonville-York vs. Athens game dictating a lot votes.

93Bulldog . . . Keep up the good work supporting the TVC and generating thought about the games, teams and players.

* Edited to remove unnecessary comments about players. I didn't intend for the comments to be negative, but when I reread them this a.m., I didn't like them.

I would imagine that your post was made in response to my posts.
I will admit that I went about saying my thoughts in the wrong way, but I never cut on any athelete or put any school down. My point was that it was too early for this poll and I didn't want to see any seperation of the two from NY.
I also NEVER made any comparison of NY and ANY storied program.
Yes I thumped my chest with the amount of TVC titles but, that was to make it a piont that the league title is foremost on the agenda and NY needed to continue to play as ONE.
The "flat on their face" comment is nothing but a slap in the face.
Yes NY has been beaten in the first round many times.
Sometimes beaten by a large margin, and just as often in the ballgame till the end.
I think it is better to "fall flat on their face" in the playoffs than in regular season and watch the playoffs from the sidelines.
I guess as a fan I quite often become caught up in defending our boys and degress into a fanatic, for this I apologize.
These are just MY thoughts and I shall push the keyboard away and be done with it.

OHSAA All-Time State Football Tournament Participation:

Amanda-Clearcreek - 2010, 2009, 2006, 2004 (2nd), 2003 (2nd), 2002, 2001, 2000 (1st), 1999 (1st), 1997 (2nd), 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1991, 1989, 1985

Ironton - 2010, 2009, 2008, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999 (2nd), 1998, 1995, 1994, 1993 (2nd), 1992 (2nd), 1991, 1990, 1989 (1st), 1988 (2nd), 1987, 1986, 1985, 1982 (2nd), 1980, 1979 (1st), 1975, 1973 (2nd)

St. Henry - 2009, 2006 (1st), 2004 (1st), 1999 (2nd), 1998, 1997, 1996 (2nd), 1995 (1st), 1994 (1st), 1993, 1992 (1st), 1990 (1st), 1987, 1986

Steubenville - 2010, 2009, 2008 (2nd), 2007, 2006 (1st), 2005 (1st), 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 1999, 1994, 1991, 1990, 1989, 1988 (2nd), 1987 (2nd), 1986, 1985, 1984 (1st), 1983, 1982, 1981

Nelsonville-York - 2010, 2008, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2000, 1998, 1997, 1994, 1992, 1982, 1981 (1st)

Athens - 1990

Alexander - 2010, 2009

Meigs - 2008

Vinton Co. - 2004, 1993

Wellston - 2006, 2004

I guess this would complete the list of the "fall flat on your facers".............. NOT!!!!!!!
I say congrats to all of them that made it.........


Oh, and by the way, I didn't edit or remove ANY of my previous posts.........did you?