(But I say, it sure do help.)

The argument will be settled the next two weeks....I'll be here to deal with the results...will you? I have Valley in the top 2 because they are good...and they deserve to be there. Wins over 7-1 West (Who beat Minford 40-0) and 6-2 Chesapeake. Valley is playing VERY well, and beating the teams they are supposed to, handily. Now, I didnt wanna do this because its stupid (AND ITS A POLL THAT HAS NO BEARING ON ANYTHING except to make guys like you piss and moan) but here is WHY I have WEST AND VALLEY in the poll and NOT Burg.wink wrote:There's a big difference in being the champion and being the favorite..Is What It IS wrote:I agree with Fido. BURG is still defending SOC Champs
To be the champion, you've got to beat the champion
Why does chicken coop have Valley ranked #2 in his top 8 and Wheelersburg isn't even mentioned. I think that pretty well settles this argument don't you?....but at least he was humble and benevolent enough to place his team 2nd so as to (pretend) not to show any bias.![]()
..and Minford isn't mentioned either. :122247
Maybe you should try reading the thread before you get all hyper. The "argument" was WHO IS FAVORED TO WIN this week.... not who is where and why on some goofy poll.chicken_coop wrote:The argument will be settled the next two weeks....I'll be here to deal with the results...will you? I have Valley in the top 2 because they are good...and they deserve to be there. Wins over 7-1 West (Who beat Minford 40-0) and 6-2 Chesapeake. Valley is playing VERY well, and beating the teams they are supposed to, handily. Now, I didnt wanna do this because its stupid (AND ITS A POLL THAT HAS NO BEARING ON ANYTHING except to make guys like you piss and moan) but here is WHY I have WEST AND VALLEY in the poll and NOT Burg.wink wrote:There's a big difference in being the champion and being the favorite..Is What It IS wrote:I agree with Fido. BURG is still defending SOC Champs
To be the champion, you've got to beat the champion
Why does chicken coop have Valley ranked #2 in his top 8 and Wheelersburg isn't even mentioned. I think that pretty well settles this argument don't you?....but at least he was humble and benevolent enough to place his team 2nd so as to (pretend) not to show any bias.![]()
..and Minford isn't mentioned either. :122247
EX: 1
West 40
Minford 0
Burg 21
Minford 6
EX: 2
Burg 34
Waverly 14 (Burg trailed at the half, 14-7)
Valley 56
Waverly 14 (Valley led 42-6 at the half)
Valley and West are playing the SAME COMPETITION, but playing better. NONE of this or the POLL HAS ANY BEARING on what will happen friday night, but if Burg beats Valley, of course they will be right up there, and Valley will be out of the poll altogether. Biased? Not really... :122249
Just because the scores were closer on the Burg's games means NOTHING. You can keep thinking Burg doesn't stand a chance and that Valley will win with no problem. I myself think it will be a close game. Hopefully my Pirates will come out on top. Can't wait till Friday night!!!!!chicken_coop wrote:The argument will be settled the next two weeks....I'll be here to deal with the results...will you? I have Valley in the top 2 because they are good...and they deserve to be there. Wins over 7-1 West (Who beat Minford 40-0) and 6-2 Chesapeake. Valley is playing VERY well, and beating the teams they are supposed to, handily. Now, I didnt wanna do this because its stupid (AND ITS A POLL THAT HAS NO BEARING ON ANYTHING except to make guys like you piss and moan) but here is WHY I have WEST AND VALLEY in the poll and NOT Burg.wink wrote:There's a big difference in being the champion and being the favorite..Is What It IS wrote:I agree with Fido. BURG is still defending SOC Champs
To be the champion, you've got to beat the champion
Why does chicken coop have Valley ranked #2 in his top 8 and Wheelersburg isn't even mentioned. I think that pretty well settles this argument don't you?....but at least he was humble and benevolent enough to place his team 2nd so as to (pretend) not to show any bias.![]()
..and Minford isn't mentioned either. :122247
EX: 1
West 40
Minford 0
Burg 21
Minford 6
EX: 2
Burg 34
Waverly 14 (Burg trailed at the half, 14-7)
Valley 56
Waverly 14 (Valley led 42-6 at the half)
Valley and West are playing the SAME COMPETITION, but playing better. NONE of this or the POLL HAS ANY BEARING on what will happen friday night, but if Burg beats Valley, of course they will be right up there, and Valley will be out of the poll altogether. Biased? Not really... :122249
crab_apple4 wrote:
As for this game, I think Jesco did a great job of breaking down the game. I pretty much echo his comments. I've seen strange things happen in this game but I've never seen Valley with such a clear edge in talent. Can't wait!
'01 was the year that Burg (Dustin Winebrenner) returned two punts for TD's. They also returned an INT for a TD in that game, which ended in a 42-14 win by the Pirates.yabbadabbadoo wrote:crab_apple4 wrote:
As for this game, I think Jesco did a great job of breaking down the game. I pretty much echo his comments. I've seen strange things happen in this game but I've never seen Valley with such a clear edge in talent. Can't wait!
I believe that Valley had more talent than then Burg in both 2002 and 2003. The 2002 game was the one the Burg scored on the last play of the game to send it to OT and then won 27-26 in OT and the 2003 game Burg won 21-0. That was the game Burg returned two punts for TD.
Like was said before, why would it be an upset if Burg wins this game? Wasn't Valley undefeated last year when they played the Burg and Burg had one loss? I guess that was an upset also?????
I guess we'll find out Friday night who is the better team!Jesco White wrote:And, the reason it would be an upset if Burg wins this game is because Valley is flat out better this year! Write it down, take a picture, I don't care what you do with that statement. Hang it up in the Pirates locker room for all I care. I seriously doubt any true competitor gives a darn what some old never has been like me has to say about it.
Yes, we will. And, win, lose or draw...good luck to your Pirates! I can assure you that I believe both teams and both communities will win or lose with CLASS and that both of the teams on the field will represent their respective communities like the fine young men that they are! We are all fortunate to be able to root these two fine programs on and I look forward to the game and the atmosphere. I'm sure it will be well played and well respected.PIRATE_FAN wrote:I guess we'll find out Friday night who is the better team!Jesco White wrote:And, the reason it would be an upset if Burg wins this game is because Valley is flat out better this year! Write it down, take a picture, I don't care what you do with that statement. Hang it up in the Pirates locker room for all I care. I seriously doubt any true competitor gives a darn what some old never has been like me has to say about it.
GO PIRATES!!!!!!
+1... Couldn't agree more. Looking forward to it.Jesco White wrote:Yes, we will. And, win, lose or draw...good luck to your Pirates! I can assure you that I believe both teams and both communities will win or lose with CLASS and that both of the teams on the field will represent their respective communities like the fine young men that they are! We are all fortunate to be able to root these two fine programs on and I look forward to the game and the atmosphere. I'm sure it will be well played and well respected.PIRATE_FAN wrote:I guess we'll find out Friday night who is the better team!Jesco White wrote:And, the reason it would be an upset if Burg wins this game is because Valley is flat out better this year! Write it down, take a picture, I don't care what you do with that statement. Hang it up in the Pirates locker room for all I care. I seriously doubt any true competitor gives a darn what some old never has been like me has to say about it.
GO PIRATES!!!!!!
Good luck to all involved on a safe and excellent night of football, but let's go PURPLE!!!!
Take away the 20 uncalled holding calls against Minford DE's and Shears goes nowhere fast the first half. Give Minford the pick 6 from the endzone and Burg is down 2TD's. You can cry all you want, but the crying can both ways and fast!yabbadabbadoo wrote:The Minford game should have been 28-6 as the non call on the pass interference cost the Burg 6. If he is not tackled before the ball gets there, it is a TD.
Also, take away that first drive of Minford's and they have 60 some yards of total offense. SIXTY!!!!!!!!!
You can sit here all day and compare scores but it never matters in games like this. You throw out the common opponents and the scores. Valley will come into this game sky high as will the Burg. I think the Burg needs this to be a low scoring game like 14-7. If they try to get in a shootout with Valley, it will get ugly. Burg will need to control the ball for long periods of time. Sometimes the best defense is your offens. If Valley doesn't have the ball on offense, makes it a little harder for them to score.
On a side note. Valley, if you do win, don't come out onto the field like you just won the Superbowl and tear the beejezzus out of the turf. * * COUGH* * COUGH* Like Minford did in 2000 *COUGH* *COUGH* Even though the field is coming up after the last game (maybe, Burg could still host in week 11 if they win out) against West, they still have to play a game on it the next week.
Good luck Pirates and here is to an injury free game.
Jesco White wrote:'01 was the year that Burg (Dustin Winebrenner) returned two punts for TD's. They also returned an INT for a TD in that game, which ended in a 42-14 win by the Pirates.yabbadabbadoo wrote:crab_apple4 wrote:
As for this game, I think Jesco did a great job of breaking down the game. I pretty much echo his comments. I've seen strange things happen in this game but I've never seen Valley with such a clear edge in talent. Can't wait!
I believe that Valley had more talent than then Burg in both 2002 and 2003. The 2002 game was the one the Burg scored on the last play of the game to send it to OT and then won 27-26 in OT and the 2003 game Burg won 21-0. That was the game Burg returned two punts for TD.
Like was said before, why would it be an upset if Burg wins this game? Wasn't Valley undefeated last year when they played the Burg and Burg had one loss? I guess that was an upset also?????
Was last year an upset? No, I don't think so. But, that's also because I don't base my thoughts on records, but rather on what each team brings to the field. Of course, you don't want to focus your responses towards someone like me who presents facts, now do you? Go ahead and twist and turn whatever you need to, in order to make yourself feel better. The bottom line, the kids are gonna settle this on the field, as they do every year. The Pirates have earned each and every one of the 10 wins they've collected over the Indians since this series restarted. You'll not catch me saying or thinking otherwise. It's called being realistic.
I couldn't agree more with your post and good luck to your Indians also!Jesco White wrote:Yes, we will. And, win, lose or draw...good luck to your Pirates! I can assure you that I believe both teams and both communities will win or lose with CLASS and that both of the teams on the field will represent their respective communities like the fine young men that they are! We are all fortunate to be able to root these two fine programs on and I look forward to the game and the atmosphere. I'm sure it will be well played and well respected.PIRATE_FAN wrote:I guess we'll find out Friday night who is the better team!Jesco White wrote:And, the reason it would be an upset if Burg wins this game is because Valley is flat out better this year! Write it down, take a picture, I don't care what you do with that statement. Hang it up in the Pirates locker room for all I care. I seriously doubt any true competitor gives a darn what some old never has been like me has to say about it.
GO PIRATES!!!!!!
Good luck to all involved on a safe and excellent night of football, but let's go PURPLE!!!!