Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Teams hand the ball off ALL THE TIME to run the clock out. I think that guy was still going to hit someone even if Roback would've taken a knee. If that blitz would've been picked up and Malone would've just been tackled, then no one would be saying anything. It just so happened that he got hit hard. Now, all the coaches are idiots.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Trooper....Malone, already injured and limping, was still in the game at that time!

One word describes this situation: DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fault lies with Waverly head coach. Malone had no business being in there then. Period.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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I know Malone was still in the game and I'm not denying that he was injured. However, I feel that if he was injured badly enough, then the coaching staff and/or trainer would've had him out of the game. I would rather have a seasoned veteran, as Malone is, at 75%-80% holding onto the football than bring in someone who has been standing on the sidelines all night and trust him to hold onto it. If he wouldn't have been hit hard, would you still be saying the situation was DUMB?


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Trooper....Were you even at the game? Waverly was running out the clock. Wellston could not stop it because they were out of timeouts.

All Waverly had to do was take a knee in this situation!!!! You don't need Malone in there to do that.

So yes, Malone being in there — victory formation or not — was DUMB!


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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^^^^^ Agreed^^^^^


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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I think we are beating a dead horse here. My guess is that when Waverly is faced with the same situation again this season, a knee will be taken and time will run out. JMO.


Enough about Wellston......on to the rest of the season


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Everyone is alive and well. Malone was injured long before the last time he carried the ball. He didn't get hurt on the last play of the game. His leg didn't seem to bother him just a few plays before when he gained ten yards. I see both sides to the argument. Waverly should've taken a knee to run out the clock, but they didn't. No one was seriously hurt over it. Waverly's coaches probably would be geniuses if Malone would've broken loose for a TD, even though it would've been unnecessary. Coaches sometimes get caught up in the moment with everything going on, and until you have actually coached or even played, you might not want to be so critical. It's a lot easier to coach from the stands than the sidelines. We need to support our players and coaches. I don't think they are trying to get our kids hurt or killed on purpose.

Now, on to Vinton County.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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keyser,

Yes, I was at the game. If I wasn't there, I wouldn't be talking about it. So, every time a team runs the ball to run out the clock it is DUMB? You have your opinion and I have mine. But, I guess since you write about sports you know all.


I would love to let this go, but it just amazes me how people, who 99% of them have never coached, have all the answers and know everything about football or whatever sport is in season.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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If you need to get a 1st down then run away. If you just need to run clock out like friday night then take a knee bad things can happen when running plays you don't need too. Would u be defending it if a fumble happened? The boy may have been already hurt or not still no need to let him take more hits.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Trooper....No, I am not a "know-it-all" as you suggest. I do know this though: To have your ALREADY INJURED tailback in the game when all you have to do is TAKE A KNEE is DUMB!!!!!

All Waverly had to do is get the clock to run out. Wellston had no timeouts. All Waverly had to do is TAKE A KNEE!!!! Please, someone explain to me why you would have your ALREADY INJURED tailback in the game when all you have to do is TAKE A KNEE!!!!

Also, you claim you "would love to let this go."

Then, my question to you is, why in the world do you keep responding to the posts? :122248 :122248 :?:

By responding to this post, you are not "letting this go."

Just something to think about. Have a good night.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Okay, I was NOT going to post on this thread again but have talked to a coach about the situation like many of you should do. Don't get on here and bash a coach without first talking to them. I was not bashing any of the coaches in my previous posts, just sharing concerns of many of the fans that night.

The coach I got my information from told me Kevin Malone is out and that he is not the only one. He said running him at the end of the game had nothing to do with that. He said that the officiating crew was the only reason the Waverly coaches kept running the ball. They did not trust the officials to run time effectively if they went to the V formation. As long as they were running the ball they could milk the clock. They could not afford to give Wellston any chance to get the ball back. They felt the officials were horrible all night and could not afford to put the game in their hands.
He said they (coaches) did what they thought they had to do to get out of there with a win.

I would suggest this issue be put to rest and that you do not post again about it unless and until you talk to a coach yourself.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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^^^^^ :roll: :roll: :roll: ^^^^^


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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tigers2010onhuddle...You gotta be kidding me.

If a team is taking a knee, and running out the clock, I'm sure the officials want to get the game over with as quickly as everyone else does. The clock is the thing which is running, there is little impact the officials have on that.

If Malone's absence this week is not due to running the ball at the end, those two hits he took on those last two carries didn't help that is for sure.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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keyser,

I can't let it go because of people like you and the comments you make. It sounds like you're in the 99% who haven't coached but claim to know all about the game and/or game situations. Just something to think about.


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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Trooper.....Actually, you CAN let it go, you just choose not to. For some reason, this bothers you. For goodness sake, this game was played a week ago!

But since I'm in a good mood this early Friday morning, may I suggest some advice courtesy of the Beatles:

"Speaking words of wisdom, let it be." :-D

Good night and God bless


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Re: Waverly 26 Wellston 21

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I don't know who you are, but I like how you think, as to Malone, everybody is like let it be, nobody knows if Malone is even okay, how do we not know this isn't a season ending injury, and the boy is a senior!
tiger 2010-you said that they had to run the clock out, but why did they give to ball to malone? There are other valuble players who could have taken the ball also, it wasn't like it was the malone and roback show. Anyways, I don't think anybody should let this go until Malone is in the clear. So, please keep posting till we have some great news!



bucki4life wrote:I dont care what anyone else thinks- giving the ball to Malone at the end of the game was one of the oddest things i have ever witnessed at the end of the game when the other team had no timeouts and not enough time to get the ball back in my life.

here is why!
#1 The young man was injured- i dont care if he wanted to go in or what - was it worth getting him hurt in a game that was in the bag? And for those of you that were not there- he was banged up and everyone could tell- trust me! He had a horrible limp!

#2 Take a knee!!! Even if Malone is o.k.- take a knee- if we fumble the ball and they scoop it up and run it back (remember the Jackson game?) we lose!!!

#3 If you think that we should run it then let the QB keep it!!! He could run around before going to the ground- or better yet- take a knee!

#4 When you realize that even the Radio people were even calling it crazy, among other things you quickly realize that there were a lot of people upset! I only heard Waverly radio, but a friend of mine said that it was on the Jackson radio also and the announcers were going crazy.

#5 Walking out of the game it was as if Waverly lost!! Everyone and yes i mean everyone was talking about the handoffs!!! I have never witnessed that many people screaming at a coaching staff from the stands like they did friday!

#6 in the event that there was another reason for running the ball like they did i will admit i am stupid and i didnt understand it! (And they are the coaches and i have always supported them)It just seemed that the risk was much more than the possible reward. I thought it was funny that people are saying that it was the lines fault- listen they were probably as shocked as everyone else about the hand-offs.

#7 If that were to turn in to a season-ending injury or a fumble return for a score everyone on here would be calling it stupid.

But it worked out and everthing is o.k.- lets just hope if we are in this situation again that they will take everything into consideration instead of taking chances that many felt were not neccessary.


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