Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
Green has 70 boys, Notre Dame 36 boys, East 87 boys and S. Valley 108 boys. These are all D6 Schools. D6 is 124 boys or less. Oak Hill has 145 boys and is D5.
Can someone answer why the Oaks are even playing these small school?
The Burg has 150 boys, Valley 152 to name a few of the local D5 schools.
Doesn't Oak Hill play a mostly SOC 2 schedule in basketball?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I seemed to remember Valley not making the playoffs several years ago when they too played a lightweight schedule but had very good records. Valley to their credit, corrected this! When will Oak Hill do the same?
Hats off to East for beating the Goliath several years in a row.
Can someone answer why the Oaks are even playing these small school?
The Burg has 150 boys, Valley 152 to name a few of the local D5 schools.
Doesn't Oak Hill play a mostly SOC 2 schedule in basketball?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I seemed to remember Valley not making the playoffs several years ago when they too played a lightweight schedule but had very good records. Valley to their credit, corrected this! When will Oak Hill do the same?
Hats off to East for beating the Goliath several years in a row.
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BC, I understand what you're saying and I think you'll see a push from those in Oak Hill within the next few years to fix this. You have to understand that Oak Hill has been awful in football for quite some time. They were awful in basketball just a few years ago until Norm showed up, really.
The football program has been built up to the point now that they can now look to get out of the SOCI.
Personally, I don't see why they left the OVC.
Here's what I'd like to see happen in football (I know it won't, but I'd like to see it):
A) Oak Hill moves back to the OVC.
B) South Gallia takes their place in the SOCI.
C) River Valley moves into the TVC Hocking or goes indy and builds their program back up.
The football program has been built up to the point now that they can now look to get out of the SOCI.
Personally, I don't see why they left the OVC.
Here's what I'd like to see happen in football (I know it won't, but I'd like to see it):
A) Oak Hill moves back to the OVC.
B) South Gallia takes their place in the SOCI.
C) River Valley moves into the TVC Hocking or goes indy and builds their program back up.
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
The school size issue can only be validated by Oak Hill continuing to win year in and out. If they start to dominate the SOC I and struggle to make the playoffs then an effort to make a change can build some steam. Valley did dominate the league for a stretch of about 5 years in the late 90's, but they weren't even able to consistently win the league the first half of the 2000's in the SOC I when they were trying to get out.
Fuzzhead, what makes you think Oak Hill can compete in the SOC II, or OVC after the current junior class graduates?
Also, exactly how hurtful is it to their playoff hopes during years when East and SV are also solid? The Oaks play 4 league games. 2 of which are going to garner little points (at least traditionally in the last 10 years or so). 2 of those games are going to be potential big second-level points games against SV and East ( let's East or SV are around 7-3, 8-2). Obviously the first level points are going to hurt them a little, but beating a couple 8-2 or 7-3 DVI teams is going to help more than beating 2-8 and 3-7 DV teams.
Fuzzhead, what makes you think Oak Hill can compete in the SOC II, or OVC after the current junior class graduates?
Also, exactly how hurtful is it to their playoff hopes during years when East and SV are also solid? The Oaks play 4 league games. 2 of which are going to garner little points (at least traditionally in the last 10 years or so). 2 of those games are going to be potential big second-level points games against SV and East ( let's East or SV are around 7-3, 8-2). Obviously the first level points are going to hurt them a little, but beating a couple 8-2 or 7-3 DVI teams is going to help more than beating 2-8 and 3-7 DV teams.
Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
I'd say the Oaks can make it to the playoffs. If they play one game at a time and don't look at the records of their opponents they have the talent to do it.
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
The most recent odds for getting into the playoffs by Drew Pasteur. The Oaks have the best odds.
Region 19 Playoff Berth Probabilities
Projected Harbin cut-off 16.11
Oak Hill 99% (8W-14.5-46% 9W-16.4-79% 10W-19.3-99%)
Fredericktown 93% (7W-12.8-2% 8W-14.7-32% 9W-17.3-91% 10W-20.2-99%)
Monroe Central (Woodsfield) 90% (7W-13.9-13% 8W-16.8-83% 9W-19.7-99%)
Liberty Union (Baltimore) 87% (6W-13.5-8% 7W-15.0-39% 8W-16.9-86% 9W-20.2-100%)
Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville) 74% (7W-12.8-5% 8W-16.3-71% 9W-20.3-99% 10W-23.8-100%)
Minford 72% (6W-12.1-1% 7W-14.9-29% 8W-17.8-97% 9W-21.3-100%)
Ridgewood (West Lafayette) 70% (8W-12.8-4% 9W-16.0-63% 10W-19.4-99%)
Wheelersburg 65% (6W-12.7-3% 7W-15.7-53% 8W-19.2-99%)
Caldwell 56% (7W-14.0-13% 8W-16.8-80% 9W-19.8-99%)
Dawson-Bryant (Coal Grove) 56% (7W-13.5-11% 8W-15.3-41% 9W-18.4-95%)
Cardington-Lincoln (Cardington) 8% (8W-13.5-4% 9W-17.0-79%)
Barnesville 8% (6W-12.9-3% 7W-16.2-52% 8W-19.6-100%)
Crooksville 8% (7W-14.8-19% 8W-18.9-98%)
Valley (Lucasville) 6% (7W-12.1-1% 8W-15.5-38% 9W-19.0-99%)
Shenandoah (Sarahsville) 5% (8W-13.3-4% 9W-16.6-83%)
Fort Frye (Beverly) 2% (8W-14.8-23%)
Adena (Frankfort) 2% (7W-14.7-13%)
Region 19 Playoff Berth Probabilities
Projected Harbin cut-off 16.11
Oak Hill 99% (8W-14.5-46% 9W-16.4-79% 10W-19.3-99%)
Fredericktown 93% (7W-12.8-2% 8W-14.7-32% 9W-17.3-91% 10W-20.2-99%)
Monroe Central (Woodsfield) 90% (7W-13.9-13% 8W-16.8-83% 9W-19.7-99%)
Liberty Union (Baltimore) 87% (6W-13.5-8% 7W-15.0-39% 8W-16.9-86% 9W-20.2-100%)
Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville) 74% (7W-12.8-5% 8W-16.3-71% 9W-20.3-99% 10W-23.8-100%)
Minford 72% (6W-12.1-1% 7W-14.9-29% 8W-17.8-97% 9W-21.3-100%)
Ridgewood (West Lafayette) 70% (8W-12.8-4% 9W-16.0-63% 10W-19.4-99%)
Wheelersburg 65% (6W-12.7-3% 7W-15.7-53% 8W-19.2-99%)
Caldwell 56% (7W-14.0-13% 8W-16.8-80% 9W-19.8-99%)
Dawson-Bryant (Coal Grove) 56% (7W-13.5-11% 8W-15.3-41% 9W-18.4-95%)
Cardington-Lincoln (Cardington) 8% (8W-13.5-4% 9W-17.0-79%)
Barnesville 8% (6W-12.9-3% 7W-16.2-52% 8W-19.6-100%)
Crooksville 8% (7W-14.8-19% 8W-18.9-98%)
Valley (Lucasville) 6% (7W-12.1-1% 8W-15.5-38% 9W-19.0-99%)
Shenandoah (Sarahsville) 5% (8W-13.3-4% 9W-16.6-83%)
Fort Frye (Beverly) 2% (8W-14.8-23%)
Adena (Frankfort) 2% (7W-14.7-13%)
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
Drew Pasteur's Region 19 Projected Seeds
1) Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville)
2) Fredericktown
3) Monroe Central (Woodsfield)
4) Oak Hill
5) Liberty Union (Baltimore)
6) Minford
7) Ridgewood (West Lafayette)
Wheelersburg
1) Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville)
2) Fredericktown
3) Monroe Central (Woodsfield)
4) Oak Hill
5) Liberty Union (Baltimore)
6) Minford
7) Ridgewood (West Lafayette)

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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
Region 19 Championship Odds
Fredericktown 3:1
Liberty Union (Baltimore) 3:1
Wheelersburg 9:1
Monroe Central (Woodsfield) 9:1
Ridgewood (West Lafayette) 9:1
Oak Hill 14:1
Minford 17:1
Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville) 30:1
Dawson-Bryant (Coal Grove) 40:1
Fredericktown 3:1
Liberty Union (Baltimore) 3:1
Wheelersburg 9:1
Monroe Central (Woodsfield) 9:1
Ridgewood (West Lafayette) 9:1
Oak Hill 14:1
Minford 17:1
Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville) 30:1
Dawson-Bryant (Coal Grove) 40:1
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Division V State Championship Odds
Coldwater 5:2
Ursuline (Youngstown) 7:2
Patrick Henry (Hamler) 9:1
Anna 9:1
St Henry 25:1
Cuyahoga Heights (Cleveland) 30:1
Fredericktown 35:1
Bishop Ready (Columbus) 40:1
Liberty Union (Baltimore) 40:1
Lima Central Catholic (Lima) 45:1
Tinora (Defiance) 60:1
Crestview (Columbiana) 65:1
West Jefferson 70:1
Hillsdale (Jeromesville) 85:1
Wheelersburg 130:1
Monroe Central (Woodsfield) 140:1
Hawken (Gates Mills) 160:1
Ridgewood (West Lafayette) 180:1
East Palestine 200:1
Crestview (Ashland) 200:1
Oak Hill 300:1
Badin (Hamilton) 350:1
Minford 400:1
Jefferson (Delphos) 400:1
Liberty-Benton (Findlay) 400:1
North Union (Richwood) 400:1
Coldwater 5:2
Ursuline (Youngstown) 7:2
Patrick Henry (Hamler) 9:1
Anna 9:1
St Henry 25:1
Cuyahoga Heights (Cleveland) 30:1
Fredericktown 35:1
Bishop Ready (Columbus) 40:1
Liberty Union (Baltimore) 40:1
Lima Central Catholic (Lima) 45:1
Tinora (Defiance) 60:1
Crestview (Columbiana) 65:1
West Jefferson 70:1
Hillsdale (Jeromesville) 85:1
Wheelersburg 130:1
Monroe Central (Woodsfield) 140:1
Hawken (Gates Mills) 160:1
Ridgewood (West Lafayette) 180:1
East Palestine 200:1
Crestview (Ashland) 200:1
Oak Hill 300:1
Badin (Hamilton) 350:1
Minford 400:1
Jefferson (Delphos) 400:1
Liberty-Benton (Findlay) 400:1
North Union (Richwood) 400:1
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
Take the previous posts for what it is worth.( Not much) I have no idea of his methods of how he comes up with his numbers.
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
Umm... other than the percentage chances of the teams making the playoffs, the other three posts are all personal opinions.
Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
Oak Hill will make the playoffs. Not only will they make the playoffs, there's a decent chance they get a home game.
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
fuzzhead wrote:Oak Hill will make the playoffs. Not only will they make the playoffs, there's a decent chance they get a home game.
One and done at home....ouch. They don't play anybody that preps them for a playoff run.....
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I agree, but not as much as I used to. The Minford win impressed me.
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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
bean counter wrote:Green has 70 boys, Notre Dame 36 boys, East 87 boys and S. Valley 108 boys. These are all D6 Schools. D6 is 124 boys or less. Oak Hill has 145 boys and is D5.
Can someone answer why the Oaks are even playing these small school?
The Burg has 150 boys, Valley 152 to name a few of the local D5 schools.
Doesn't Oak Hill play a mostly SOC 2 schedule in basketball?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I seemed to remember Valley not making the playoffs several years ago when they too played a lightweight schedule but had very good records. Valley to their credit, corrected this! When will Oak Hill do the same?
Hats off to East for beating the Goliath several years in a row.
next year we have burg,mindford,welston and posibly ironton on our schedule for trimble and RV dropping us and us dropping south gallia.
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you might wanna rethink that one. i like oak hill but ironton and burg are on another level 

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Re: Can the Oaks make the playoffs?
burg and minford will be really exciting games to watch i hope we get them both
but from watchin ironton and jackson play friday, id say we could take ironton by a touchdown or 2
but at least we have a more challenging schedule next year either way!
but from watchin ironton and jackson play friday, id say we could take ironton by a touchdown or 2
but at least we have a more challenging schedule next year either way!