Power Poll after week 8 from T_FB_A

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

I started this power ranking last year in response to the Portsmouth Daily Times failure to continue what was one of the better parts of the sports section. The PDT is doing one this year but due to the overall downward spiral that the times has taken in the last few years I will continue mine as well. If you are a reader of both you will notice several differences between the 2, but both these pieces are opinions and we all know that opinions are like, well never mind we all know that old saying.

Here are the rules for my power poll. It will be made up of teams from the SEOAL South, SOC1,and SOC2. I know that this leaves several quality teams out but, these are the teams that I follow the closest and think I know a little about. I know Logan, Marietta, Warren and others would be high on this list but I think I am too far away to give an honest opinion on how good these teams are. If someone doesn’t like it please write your own, I will enjoy reading yours as I hope you do mine.

I know this poll has angered some in the past few weeks, and I’m sure it will be no different this week, but this is my opinion, and although you do not have to agree with it I request that you do not resort in childish name calling as one poster felt necessary to do last week. If you do not agree with mine I again encourage you to take the time to rank and write your own each week as Bleeding Red has volunteered to do next season. I’m sure we will all be anxiously awaiting his next year. I know I will personally enjoy reading it no matter whether I agree or disagree with his rankings.

1. Ironton (6-2)last week # 1- The Tigers picked up their 6th win of the season and Bob Lutz 360th of his career. This week it was against the rival Portsmouth Trojans. The Tigers showed why they are far and above the best team in the area as they were able to pick up needed first downs on the ground, in critical situations.

2. Jackson (7-1) last week # 2- The Ironmen got back to winning games this week after a one week visit to the loss column the week before. Jackson was able to pick up a 20 -0 win against struggling SEOAL foe Chillicothe. Because of their winning ways the Ironmen have given themselves a shot at a share of an SEOAL title, and the playoffs. This week will be the determining factor for the SEOAL as Jackson travels to Logan to play the 8-0 Chieftains. A loss and the Chieftains are outright champions. A Jackson win will result in a 3 way split with Jackson, Logan, and Ironton, and help the Ironmen’s playoff chances.

3.Burg (6-2) last week # 3 - The Burg holds onto the # 3 spot this week, after a victory over injury depleted Waverly. The Pirates continue to try to redeem themselves for their week 6 stumble. They currently sit at 10th in region 19, but have 2 big chances at points coming in their next 2 weeks as they play 7-1 Valley, and 5-3 West. The Pirates have the athletes to be one of the premiere teams in region 19, but will have to pick up their remaining 2 games, to get into the playoffs. If the Pirates get to week 11 I think they will show why I have them ranked at # 3 despite a loss to a team ranked below them on the list.

4. Portsmouth (5-3) last week # 4- The Trojans lost to the # 1 team on the poll in the form of the Ironton Fighting Tigers, this means the Trojans 3 losses have come at the hands of the 3 teams that I believe to be the best in the area. Despite the loss the Trojans made a valiant effort against the Fighting Tigers, scoring more points against the Tigers stiff defense than any other opponent this season,( including Logan, Ashland, or Wheelersburg). Even though it appeared that the Trojans had figured out Ironton’s defense, they had no answer to their power run game. The Trojans were one stop away from making this game even more exciting then it already was. Portsmouth played 3 strong quarters against the Fighting Tigers but had a lapse in the 2nd and allowed the Tigers to score twice in the final 2 minutes of the half. The 2nd half was pretty much a shootout after the Trojans were able to send the Tigers back to the sideline after a 3 and out on their first possession of the second half. The Trojans get to stay at # 4 for putting up more points on the best team in the area then anyone else has, and the fact that the Trojans 3 losses have come at the hands of the top 3 teams on the poll. I doubt any team below them would have a better record if they had to play the schedule the Trojans have. Also to everyone that said the Trojans win against Warren wasn’t a quality win, Warren just lost to D2 state ranked Logan 31-15 in a game that was 10-7 until 7:26 in the 3rd. The Trojans actually beat the Warriors worse then the Chieftains did, but that in no way makes the Trojans better than Logan.

5. Minford (7-1) last week # 5- The Falcons rolled through a much overmatched opponent this week in the form of SOC 2’s Northwest. Although the Falcons continued their winning ways this week, it is hard to advance by defeating the SOC 2’s traditional last place finisher. This week the Falcon’s should be able to coast again as they play the struggling, injury depleted Waverly. Week 10 will then hold what is shaping up to be the SOC 2 championship with the Valley Indians.

6. Oak Hill (8-0) last week # 6- The Oaks picked up another victory this week as they defeated yet another D6 team. This weeks victim was SOC 1’s Symmes Valley. The Oaks continue to win, but with only one quality win it makes it hard for the Oaks to climb any higher without several losses above them.

7. Valley (7-1) last week # 8- The Indians picked up a big win this week as they defeated the West Senators by a score of 21-7. The Indians have been unable to climb higher only because until this week their schedule has been very weak. The remaining 2 weeks of the Indians schedule is much harder then the first 6 were. This week the Indians will travel to Wheelersburg to play the Pirates. Both need a win to help their playoff chances. Win or lose the Indians will be playing for an SOC 2 title in week 10 as they travel to Minford. The only question is if they will be playing for an outright title, or if they will be playing for a share.

8. West (5-3) last week #7 - The Senators suffered their 2nd loss in as many weeks this time as they dropped a 21-7 decision to Valley. West’s 3rd loss of the season hasn’t killed the Senator’s playoff hopes, but they are on life support. The Senators will need to win out and get some help if they are going to be playing in week 11. The Senators will have a big game in week 10 with Wheelersburg, this game could result in knocking the Pirates out of the playoffs, and keeping them from having a chance at a possible conference title. If the Senators can’t get into the post season, knocking the Pirates out would be a great consolation prize.

9. Symmes Valley ( 6-2) last week # 9- The Vikings took one on the chin this week at the hands of Oak Hill. I doubt many people expected Symmes Valley to be able to keep up with the Oaks. The Vikings get to stay on at # 9 this week because they have a winning record and are still in contention for the playoffs. The Vikings sit 9th in region 23, but are still in the hunt for the post season.

10. I don’t think any of the remaining teams has earned the right to sole possession . Of the remaining teams I think Gallia Academy would win against all others, but have only been able to pick up one win so far. Waverly has struggled as of late due to several injuries that have depleted their roster. The remaining teams all seem to be at about the same level, with no real standouts.

[Dr Lou]

No way can you justify placing Jackson or Burg over Minford, and especially Portsmouth. The Trojans lost to wheelersburg 68-14 and the falcons defeated them? This poll has sunk below relevance.

[Jesco White]

i believe Jackson would struggle to win more than 3 games against the rest of that list, if they could even win 3. I'm all for diversity in polls and rationales to support opinions, but do you honestly believe Jackson is one of the top 3 teams? Also, Portsmouth? I don't think either team is a bad team, by any stretch of the imagination, but to be ranked in the top 4 with teams who clearly have put together much stronger resumes is tough for me to believe.

Oh well, you have your opinion, and I have mine. I respect your right to diverse thought and I definitely commend you for putting your thoughts out there. I have a lot of respect for that. Thanks for allowing me to critique yours with mine.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

No way can you justify placing Jackson or Burg over Minford, and especially Portsmouth. The Trojans lost to wheelersburg 68-14 and the falcons defeated them? This poll has sunk below relevance.

pretty sure that’s what I did in the poll but I will again try to clarify the situation for you.

Lets start with Jackson, the Ironmen have amassed a 7-1 record and are going to play for a share of the SEOAL title this week. Their only loss came at the hands of Ironton, the same Ironton that nobody else on the poll has been able to hang with either. Plain and simple to be 7-1 at this point and playing for a share of the league title in one of the toughest leagues in southeast Ohio its clear the Ironmen have earned their spot.

Burg, yes the Pirates stumbled against Minford, but do have the quality win against Portsmouth just as Jackson does. Yes the Pirates haven’t played the strongest schedule, but with the exception of Portsmouth neither has anyone below them. Wheelersburg is the predominate power of SOC 2, and although they haven’t taken control of it this year I still believe that the loss to Minford isn’t indicative of how good this team is and can be. As I said I believe given the chance in the playoffs I think the Pirates will redeem themselves.

Next Portsmouth, the Trojans losses have come at the hands of 6-2 Burg, and 7-1 Jackson, both who I have justified as quality opponents, and Ironton, who needs no justification. They have quality wins over West who Minford likes to tout as a big win, and D2 6-2 Warren, the same Warren who was trailing Logan 10-7 in the 3rd quarter last week.

Now Minford, yes they do have the victory over the Burg, but they also have a loss to an Oak Hill team that plays a predominantly D6 schedule, and with the exception of Minford has yet to beat a team above .500. Minford has however knocked off West the same as PHS did ( that’s a push), Minford only other win that could be considered a quality win would be Coal Grove, although the Hornets have an impressive record 6 of their 7 wins come against teams with a record of 12-36. It boils down to the fact that I think both PHS and Minford have 2 quality wins. With each beating West, it goes to Warren or Burg, I felt Warren had more then proved themselves, and thus the Trojans get the nod over Minford.

I also considered other opponents that each have played for example.

Minford worst opponent would be 0-8 Huntington Ross, Portsmouth’s worst would be 1-7 South Point.
I give the edge to the Trojans because I believe South Point is the better team.

Next would be the Falcons victory over 1-7 River Valley vs. the Trojans victory over 1-7 Chillicothe. Again I think it goes to PHS.

Minford’s win over Northwest, or the Trojans victory over Gallia Academy, again it goes to the Trojans.

The Falcons win over Wellston, or the Trojans one point loss to Jackson, I’m more impressed with the Trojans here to but I can see how you could think other wise, so I’ll call it a draw.

We have already said that West is a push with each holding a victory over the Senators.

Then Minford’s win vs. Coal Grove or the Trojans loss to Ironton, I personally think the Trojans would have beaten Coal Grove and the Falcons would have lost to Ironton, but I’ll go ahead and give the Falcons the point for this one.

You then have the Trojans loss to Burg vs. Minford’s to Oak Hill, although I think Burg is a much superior opponent to the Oaks I’ll give the point to Minford


That puts the score at 3-2-2 in favor of the Trojans. Combined that with the Warren Vs Burg I discussed earlier, and it’s 4-2-2. Looking at it this way it is pretty clear to see why PHS is ahead of Minford. Even if I were to concede the 2draws (which I would never concede the West game as we both defeated them) it would only be a tie.

I hope this helps to break it down for you. I think it is pretty clear when you look at it in this way.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

i believe Jackson would struggle to win more than 3 games against the rest of that list, if they could even win 3. I'm all for diversity in polls and rationales to support opinions, but do you honestly believe Jackson is one of the top 3 teams? Also, Portsmouth? I don't think either team is a bad team, by any stretch of the imagination, but to be ranked in the top 4 with teams who clearly have put together much stronger resumes is tough for me to believe.

Oh well, you have your opinion, and I have mine. I respect your right to diverse thought and I definitely commend you for putting your thoughts out there. I have a lot of respect for that. Thanks for allowing me to critique yours with mine.

Personally I don't think you give Jackson the credit they have earned. With the exception of my top 5 I don't think any of the other teams could compete with the Ironmen. Since they have already proved themselves against PHS, and lost to Ironton, that leaves Burg, and Minford. Burg would probably be able to take down the Ironmen depending on which Burg team shows up. Jackson got the nod over the Pirates because they only have the one loss to Ironton, and have played themselves into a shot at an SEOAL title. I really think this would be a good game, and could go either way.

As for Minford, I think you would see the Ironmen open up the playbook on the Falcons and throw the ball. Probably another good game, I give the edge again to Jackson I think the Halls would find a way to exploit Minford’s defense, and slow their running attack.

Thanks for the comment, gives me things to think about for next week.

[89Falcon]

I agree that minford could not touch ironton ... this year and these past years ironton is the big dog in the area ... havent seen jackson play so cant judge that one but they barley beat ptown who i seen look pathethic at the burg game but can still see why they are above minford with a 7-1 record. Now we beat burg in a very close game ... u play that game again 10 times series splits 5-5 could of gone eather way and burg has had a tougher schedule but minford still did beat the burg... but portsmouth should not be above minford what so ever they got beat by west who minford dominated and they got blow out of the water by burg who minford also beat so i do not see at all how they could be above minford even tho they play harder teams it dont matter if they get beat by every good team they play.

this is they way i would do it

1 ironton
2 jackson
3 minford
4 burg
5 oakhill (hope minford gets them in the playoffs)
6 portsmouth


I have kept up with your power poll all season and have thought u hve done very well but just dont see ur justifacation in that one.

[Bleeding Red]

I agree that minford could not touch ironton ... this year and these past years ironton is the big dog in the area ... havent seen jackson play so cant judge that one but they barley beat ptown who i seen look pathethic at the burg game but can still see why they are above minford with a 7-1 record. Now we beat burg in a very close game ... u play that game again 10 times series splits 5-5 could of gone eather way and burg has had a tougher schedule but minford still did beat the burg... but portsmouth should not be above minford what so ever they got beat by west who minford dominated and they got blow out of the water by burg who minford also beat so i do not see at all how they could be above minford even tho they play harder teams it dont matter if they get beat by every good team they play.

this is they way i would do it

1 ironton
2 jackson
3 minford
4 burg
5 oakhill (hope minford gets them in the playoffs)
6 portsmouth


I have kept up with your power poll all season and have thought u hve done very well but just dont see ur justifacation in that one.

LOL

and you never will

I will be doing a power poll next year, time permitting. And it probably wont start until week 3-4. That way it is based on facts......wins and losses......head to head matchups......etc. The real stuff.

[TrojanXplosion]

I agree that minford could not touch ironton ... this year and these past years ironton is the big dog in the area ... havent seen jackson play so cant judge that one but they barley beat ptown who i seen look pathethic at the burg game but can still see why they are above minford with a 7-1 record. Now we beat burg in a very close game ... u play that game again 10 times series splits 5-5 could of gone eather way and burg has had a tougher schedule but minford still did beat the burg... but portsmouth should not be above minford what so ever they got beat by west who minford dominated and they got blow out of the water by burg who minford also beat so i do not see at all how they could be above minford even tho they play harder teams it dont matter if they get beat by every good team they play.

this is they way i would do it

1 ironton
2 jackson
3 minford
4 burg
5 oakhill (hope minford gets them in the playoffs)
6 portsmouth


I have kept up with your power poll all season and have thought u hve done very well but just dont see ur justifacation in that one.

I don't know what you are thinking but Portsmouth beat West in the second game of the year. Just figured you should know.

[TrojanXplosion]

I agree that minford could not touch ironton ... this year and these past years ironton is the big dog in the area ... havent seen jackson play so cant judge that one but they barley beat ptown who i seen look pathethic at the burg game but can still see why they are above minford with a 7-1 record. Now we beat burg in a very close game ... u play that game again 10 times series splits 5-5 could of gone eather way and burg has had a tougher schedule but minford still did beat the burg... but portsmouth should not be above minford what so ever they got beat by west who minford dominated and they got blow out of the water by burg who minford also beat so i do not see at all how they could be above minford even tho they play harder teams it dont matter if they get beat by every good team they play.

this is they way i would do it

1 ironton
2 jackson
3 minford
4 burg
5 oakhill (hope minford gets them in the playoffs)
6 portsmouth


I have kept up with your power poll all season and have thought u hve done very well but just dont see ur justifacation in that one.

LOL

and you never will

I will be doing a power poll next year, time permitting. And it probably wont start until week 3-4. That way it is based on facts......wins and losses......head to head matchups......etc. The real stuff.

I certainly can't wait to read your poll next year. But, don't rank a team ahead of another just because you compare the scores of each and you think one team would beat the other based of compared scores. For example, according to your theory that you talked about last week, Portsmouth should have lost to Ironton by about 70 points. That sounds crazy but, I just used your method. I mean Ironton crushed Burg, Burg crushed Portsmouth so therefore, using your method, Ironton should have mangled P-town. But, looks like your method didn't work so well. Once again, Portsmouth lost to I-town by 22 points. Yet, Wheelersburg lost to Ironton by 16 points. So, comparing scores of those games then if Wheelersburg played Portsmouth again Burg would win by about 6 points. So much for comparing scores.

[Bleeding Red]

I agree that minford could not touch ironton ... this year and these past years ironton is the big dog in the area ... havent seen jackson play so cant judge that one but they barley beat ptown who i seen look pathethic at the burg game but can still see why they are above minford with a 7-1 record. Now we beat burg in a very close game ... u play that game again 10 times series splits 5-5 could of gone eather way and burg has had a tougher schedule but minford still did beat the burg... but portsmouth should not be above minford what so ever they got beat by west who minford dominated and they got blow out of the water by burg who minford also beat so i do not see at all how they could be above minford even tho they play harder teams it dont matter if they get beat by every good team they play.

this is they way i would do it

1 ironton
2 jackson
3 minford
4 burg
5 oakhill (hope minford gets them in the playoffs)
6 portsmouth


I have kept up with your power poll all season and have thought u hve done very well but just dont see ur justifacation in that one.

LOL

and you never will

I will be doing a power poll next year, time permitting. And it probably wont start until week 3-4. That way it is based on facts......wins and losses......head to head matchups......etc. The real stuff.

I certainly can't wait to read your poll next year. But, don't rank a team ahead of another just because you compare the scores of each and you think one team would beat the other based of compared scores. For example, according to your theory that you talked about last week, Portsmouth should have lost to Ironton by about 70 points. That sounds crazy but, I just used your method. I mean Ironton crushed Burg, Burg crushed Portsmouth so therefore, using your method, Ironton should have mangled P-town. But, looks like your method didn't work so well. Once again, Portsmouth lost to I-town by 22 points. Yet, Wheelersburg lost to Ironton by 16 points. So, comparing scores of those games then if Wheelersburg played Portsmouth again Burg would win by about 6 points. So much for comparing scores.

22 points is still a blowout. Wasnt Ironton up like 28 to nothing at one point? Scores really dont matter. But teams wont be ahead of another team when they lost the head to head matchup to them.

Example- Portmouth would be ranked behind Burg, Burg behind Minford, etc. And it is total BS to not give Oak Hill their due. I would have them ranked behind Ironton at #2. They are 12th in the state, in playoff contention to possibly host a game and just because they are Oak Hill TFBA has them ranked 6th.

I can tell you that I have seen Portsmouth 2 times this year and Oak Hill. Oak Hill would crush Portsmouth. Take that to the bank.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

but portsmouth should not be above minford what so ever they got beat by west who minford dominated and they got blow out of the water by burg who minford also beat so i do not see at all how they could be above minford even tho they play harder teams it dont matter if they get beat by every good team they play.

I have told you all each week you can't compare scores of like opponents. I gave the example of the 2003 season when PHS lost to Burg, Burg lost to Minford and PHS blew Minford out of the water.

FalconFan just disproved it for you as well with the example of PHS vs. Ironton vs. Burg.

Here is another example for you. Portsmouth beat Warren 28-7, while Logan beat Warren 31-15. Wow Portsmouth won by 21 while Logan only won by 16, by your logic Portsmouth is better then Logan. I'm sure nobody believes the Trojans are better then Logan, because this logic makes no sense just as it makes no sense using it to justify Minford.

As for your comment that the Trojans get beat by every good team they play.
West - Minford gets to count them as a good team what a double standard. Or maybe it's because it was only a one point victory. Is that it do one point victories not count now ? Please let me know because if that’s the case PHS and Burg both need to be moved up the poll.

Warren - D2 6-2 Warren- just played tight with Logan. Their non league schedule hasn't been the best, however the league is such a grind who could fault them? They have quality wins vs. Parkersburg South and Point Pleasant. They also beat Meigs in 2 OTs. I brought Meigs up because they just knocked off Alexander, and have played a pretty tough schedule.

I will be doing a power poll next year, time permitting. And it probably wont start until week 3-4. That way it is based on facts......wins and losses......head to head matchups......etc. The real stuff.

I will mark my calendar. I hope however that you are not so narrow minded to just give teams rankings because of their record. You said wins and loses, well that means Oak Hill in front of Ironton. I hope we all know that this would not even be close, but the Oaks have no loses and Ironton has 2. Do you see what I'm saying it's not fair to give a team a high ranking if they have played a cream puff schedule. That’s why you see SEC schools ranked higher then Big Ten schools with the same record.

As for head to head matches that would be great if we all played the same schedule. We all don't and again it's not fair to penalize teams for playing quality opponents. As I have said in previous weeks the sheer grind of some schedule takes it's toll on teams. For example the Trojans have no real break from week 2-10. Yes some of these opponents do not have good records, but all are big physical, fast and athletic teams. You then look at for example Minford's schedule. They have a cake walk for the first 3 weeks, until they meet Coal Grove in week 4. Then they have Oak Hill who is good, but isn't a team that physically beats on you. After that they have 2 back to back physical teams with Burg and West. Weeks 8-9 are again not physically demanding teams. Week 10 is Valley, and although they are a good team Valley has never been a physical team that will beat you up.

[coop]

I can tell you that I have seen Portsmouth 2 times this year and Oak Hill. Oak Hill would crush Portsmouth. Take that to the bank.

Your check will bounce.

Oak Hill hasn't faced the speed in the secondary that Portsmouth has.

Big difference from Minford and Symmes Valley's secondary to Portsmouth's!

^^ Burg didnt think so..

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Example- Portmouth would be ranked behind Burg, Burg behind Minford, etc. And it is total BS to not give Oak Hill their due. I would have them ranked behind Ironton at #2. They are 12th in the state, in playoff contention to possibly host a game and just because they are Oak Hill TFBA has them ranked 6th.

PHS is behind Burg, as for Minford I have stated over and over again how they have no justification to be ranked above the Trojans other then Minford's victory over Burg, which I have showed you over and over again why you can't compare the like scores, so were back to no justification.

As for Oak Hill, Minford is their only quality win. Do you ever wonder why Florida , Alabama, and even 1 loss USC are ranked ahead of TCU? It's the same principle, they have to play a better schedule to get more respect.

[coop]

Example- Portmouth would be ranked behind Burg, Burg behind Minford, etc. And it is total BS to not give Oak Hill their due. I would have them ranked behind Ironton at #2. They are 12th in the state, in playoff contention to possibly host a game and just because they are Oak Hill TFBA has them ranked 6th.

PHS is behind Burg, as for Minford I have stated over and over again how they have no justification to be ranked above the Trojans other then Minford's victory over Burg, which I have showed you over and over again why you can't compare the like scores, so were back to no justification.

As for Oak Hill, Minford is their only quality win. Do you ever wonder why Florida , Alabama, and even 1 loss USC are ranked ahead of TCU? It's the same principle, they have to play a better schedule to get more respect.

Always enjoy your poll, and appreciate that you take the time to justify why who is ranked where. Good Stuff.

[Bleeding Red]

Example- Portmouth would be ranked behind Burg, Burg behind Minford, etc. And it is total BS to not give Oak Hill their due. I would have them ranked behind Ironton at #2. They are 12th in the state, in playoff contention to possibly host a game and just because they are Oak Hill TFBA has them ranked 6th.

PHS is behind Burg, as for Minford I have stated over and over again how they have no justification to be ranked above the Trojans other then Minford's victory over Burg, which I have showed you over and over again why you can't compare the like scores, so were back to no justification.

As for Oak Hill, Minford is their only quality win. Do you ever wonder why Florida , Alabama, and even 1 loss USC are ranked ahead of TCU? It's the same principle, they have to play a better schedule to get more respect.

And what makes you think your Trojans are so good to be ranked so high? They got 68 points hung on them. Ironton had them down what, 28-0??

Granted they beat a very over rated Warren team....but come on. We all know they just squeeked by a struggling West team but you want to point out scheduling? Portsmouth beat a 1-7 South Point team, beat a 1-7 Gallia Acadamy team and a 1-7 Chillicothe team. Wow that is a really tough schedule!

Portsmouth opponents win/loss record on teams that Portsmouth has beaten (which includes Warren)-

14-26!!!!

Thats ok.....we know that you have to put Burg up there since they ran your Trojans out of town putting up 68 points. That way in your mind Portsmouth is that much better than they actually are

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Bleeding Red

I swear every one of your post are the same thing. “Portsmouth lost to Burg, Portsmouth lost to Burg” your like a broken record I have explained it to you till I’m blue in the face. LIKE OPPONETS ARE NOT A GOOD INDICATOR.

If you would have taken the time to look above you would also see where I broke down the opponent vs. opponent for Minford and Portsmouth and it was clear that Portsmouth was had the advantage there.


One more time for you ONE GOOD OR BAD GAME IS NOT INDICITIVE OF THE TEAMS OVER ALL ABILITY.

[BigTime]

TFBA;

You don't have to compare anything for bleedingred about the Trojans vs Minford. That was settle long ago with the thumping the Trojans already put on the Falcons. I know BR will say well this or well that happened or should have happened, it doesn't matter the Trojans out physicaled the Falcons and got up 3 scores to none and relaxed and gave up a score. So to me BR has nothing to say as to whether the Trojans would beat the Falcons (THEY ALREADY DID).

[Mikenmike]

TFBA;

You don't have to compare anything for bleedingred about the Trojans vs Minford. That was settle long ago with the thumping the Trojans already put on the Falcons. I know BR will say well this or well that happened or should have happened, it doesn't matter the Trojans out physicaled the Falcons and got up 3 scores to none and relaxed and gave up a score. So to me BR has nothing to say as to whether the Trojans would beat the Falcons (THEY ALREADY DID).

It was a scrimmage!!!!! For one they did not thump minford, the whole day they had 3 big passes, one of which was on a kid who doesn't even play varsity. One was a catch that 9/10 will never happen again. The other was a darn good play. Minford did just fine running the ball against Portsmouth just ran out of plays(Don't know how many times I have to say that).

Also explain this to me:
Minford
10/2 H Wheelersburg (6-2) [5:19] W 16-15
10/10 A Portsmouth West (5-3) [4:15] W 27-6
Portsmouth
9/5 H Portsmouth West (5-3) [4:15] W 21-20
9/11 H Wheelersburg (6-2) [5:19] L 14-68

Yet he has Minford ranked lower then portsmouth? Thats two like opponets and Minford by far had better showings in both games. Minford manhandled west, portsmouth squeaked by. Minford beat Burg(doesn't matter what you may think if they played again Minford got the job done when needed) while portsmouth got their butts handed to them against burg. He is holding minford back because they lost to to a good team by 6 points. A team who would beat almost every team in the socII and would be a good game for both burg and minford everytime they play. While portsmouth lost by 1 point to a good team in jackson and got manhandled by Ironton(not that minford could beat them) and by burg(who minford once again beat!!!!!). I am not saying that minford would blow out portsmouth cause they wouldn't but portsmouth wouldn't blow minford out either. Now im not crying about these rankings because they don't mean anything its just his opinion. I enjoy reading it and will continue to read it but don't act like portsmouth is hands down better then minford.

[Mikenmike]

Also burg should not even be in the top 3 yes they are a good team but who have they beat? Besides portsmouth

If your going to go off strength of schedule all you have to do is look at the comp rankings since im pretty sure that goes off of who you beat and the team you beats record(Strength of schedule)

[west siders]

Here is how I would put it

1.Ironton
2.Minford
3.Jackson
4.Oak Hill
5.Wheelersburg
6.valley
7.Portsmouth
8.West
9.Symmes Valley
10.Waverly