Power Poll after week 8 from T_FB_A

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Ok MikeNMike lets take another look at this.

Yes PHS beat West ( a healthy West team)
Yes Minford beat West

These 2 cancel each other out.

You also say that PHS squeaked by West because it was only a 1 point victory. Yet Minford gets full credit for squeaking by Burg with their one point victory.


PHS in know way got manhandled by Ironton, they lost by 22 points, and scored 28 on the Fighting Tigers that is more then anyone else has all year. In the 2nd half the Trojans offence was really clicking. They were one stop away from making this game very interesting.

[TrojanXplosion]

Bleeding Red: You were not at the Ironton Portsmouth game. It was much closer than the score indicated. And, according to your logic, Minford would get "blown out" by 15 points if they played Ironton.

[NewEra]

Portsmouth will have their hands full this week at 1 win Marietta.

[Mikenmike]

Ok MikeNMike lets take another look at this.

Yes PHS beat West ( a healthy West team)
Yes Minford beat West

These 2 cancel each other out.

You also say that PHS squeaked by West because it was only a 1 point victory. Yet Minford gets full credit for squeaking by Burg with their one point victory.


PHS in know way got manhandled by Ironton, they lost by 22 points, and scored 28 on the Fighting Tigers that is more then anyone else has all year. In the 2nd half the Trojans offence was really clicking. They were one stop away from making this game very interesting.

First off before the game every west fan swore up and down that west was healthy when playing minford. Then when they get their butts handed to them they say they weren't healthy? Also I was just comparing common opponets yes minford did squeak by burg but that wasn't the point. The point was that minford beat (squeaked by) a team that crushed portsmouth and manhandled a team portsmouth beat (squeaked by). Also im not sure how you get that losing by 22 points isn't being manhandled? Its great that portsmouth scored 28 points on them sounds like the offense is really performing well, but it sounds like portsmouth has no defense Ironton put up 50 on them. Thats second to only a 1-7 chilli team.

I agree with you that portsmouth does play a tougher schedule, but it doesn't matter how tough your schedule is if you don't beat the tough teams. Arkansas plays one of the toughest schedules in cfb and have been in every game this year(except one) but have lost some as a well, which results in them not being ranked above say a tcu, or boise, or houston who all play much weaker schedules but have a quality win.

[TrojanXplosion]

Also, Wheelersburg, a team that Minford beat only by 1 point, lost to Ironton by a 16 point "blowout". I believe Ironton was even up 24 to 0 at one point. So, Bleeding Red, your logic is kind of back firing on you.

[BigTime]

Fans like bleedingred are bad for a football programs image. Because regardless of reality they always feel their team is superior to everyone else. Minford has a fine football team and I wish them luck heading into the post season. If Minford played the Trojans schedule year in and year out they would very seldom make the playoffs. And size wise they are very close, so please quit saying how Minford would beat this team or that team. And using the Burg score as a point is getting old for everyone. They pounded us on a night that they owned us without a doubt and no Trojans fan would deny that fact. But, how many teams would bounce back the way this team did afterwards. I'am living in reality and know my Trojans are not the best team in the area. Ask most though and they would tell you if they could choose whom to play Minford or Portsmouth right now most would say give me the Falcons. The Trojans are not some push over like you seem to think based on the Burg game. If this team makes the playoffs it would be a great turnaround for a still young team. We have 9 starters coming back on the O and 7 more coming back on the D. Great things ahead of the Trojan team next year compared to what Minford will be next year without their QB. GO TROJANS

[trojanofthepast]

TFBA has done what polls are suppose to do and that's cause debate. I don't understand why we are debating the falcon vs trojans. I also wish all SEO teams good luck as the venture into the playoffs. I hope my trojans can some how get in with some help. I do agree with BigTime about this team heading into next year. With so many returning next year we should be a very tough team to beat. I have been very impressed with how this team responded to a 1-9 season from a year ago. Final thought is that the trojans are one of the top 4 in this poll without a doubt. This is what I think would happen if minford played Ptown schedule.

S. Point - W (Minford would handle S.P.)
West - W Minford already beat West)
Burg - W (Minford already beat the Burg)
Jackson - L (Proven how tough they are by now)
Chilly - ??? (1-7 but are still a tough win for everyone)
Gallia - L (This is a good 1-7 team with a tough schedule)
Warren - L (Warren would handle Minford)
Ironton - L (Ironton would do what they do POUND ON MINFORD)
Marietta - W (L if Marietta was healthy)
Western Brown - L (4-4 D2 shcool that would handle Minford)

5-5 at Best with a possible 4-6 season for Minford with this schedule and no chance of the playoffs. That's what's fun about forums it just my opinion and we will never know.

[Mikenmike]

I agree with you on just about everything on your post.
1. I agree br does over do it at times but its obvious that he is just a bit of a die hard who is trying to make his point but going about it in the wrong way.
2. I agree that minford would not make the playoffs every year with portsmouths schedule(not many teams would in this area doubt that burg even would), but neither does portsmouth (maybe the reason they want out of the seoal?) However that has nothing to do with this argument. This argument is about THIS year, and this year yea minford would make the playoffs with that schedule imo(but thats a different argument as well)
3.Also I give portsmouth a HUGE amount of credit for making the turn around that they have made. After the burg game I figured they would fall apart. But don't forget about the turn around minford has made after losing to Oak Hill.
4.Minford will be a pretty good team next year as well, I have them as my sleeper for next season. They return alot of talent, I believe only 3 guys on the oline(te included) return but plenty of talent coming up, Butcher will be the qb next year and don't look for it to be that big of a drop off in talent he is a very good fball player. Slone will be back at fb, then you have Gaines and Piquet at the rbs next year and they both imo will end up being better then the rbs they have now, along with alot of talent returnning on D. Coach Daniels is doing a very nice job of establishing some tradition out at minford (looking at a 3rd straight trip to the playoffs). Minford will no longer be a once in every 10 years program look for them to compete year in and out.

[Mikenmike]

TFBA has done what polls are suppose to do and that's cause debate. I don't understand why we are debating the falcon vs trojans. I also wish all SEO teams good luck as the venture into the playoffs. I hope my trojans can some how get in with some help. I do agree with BigTime about this team heading into next year. With so many returning next year we should be a very tough team to beat. I have been very impressed with how this team responded to a 1-9 season from a year ago. Final thought is that the trojans are one of the top 4 in this poll without a doubt. This is what I think would happen if minford played Ptown schedule.

S. Point - W (Minford would handle S.P.)
West - W Minford already beat West)
Burg - W (Minford already beat the Burg)
Jackson - L (Proven how tough they are by now)
Chilly - ??? (1-7 but are still a tough win for everyone)
Gallia - L (This is a good 1-7 team with a tough schedule)
Warren - L (Warren would handle Minford)
Ironton - L (Ironton would do what they do POUND ON MINFORD)
Marietta - W (L if Marietta was healthy)
Western Brown - L (4-4 D2 shcool that would handle Minford)

5-5 at Best with a possible 4-6 season for Minford with this schedule and no chance of the playoffs. That's what's fun about forums it just my opinion and we will never know.

Who has warren beat? Don't even answer it cause I'll tell yea NOONE. You must be out of your mind or just love a good debate if you think minford would at best finish 5-5 with that schedule

[BigTime]

mikenmike;

I didn't say that the Burg owed us that night. If you read my post I said they owned us. I think they would go 6-4 at best against that schedule. With losses coming to Jackson, Ironton, Warren, and Western Brown.

[Mikenmike]

My mistake, must have just misread it.

[SPAMONY]

mikenmike;

I didn't say that the Burg owed us that night. If you read my post I said they owned us. I think they would go 6-4 at best against that schedule. With losses coming to Jackson, Ironton, Warren, and Western Brown.

I think Minford goes 9-1 maybe 8-2 at the worst!!!!

[Mikenmike]

Seriously warren's opponets that they have beat are combined 12-34?

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Seriously warren's opponets that they have beat are combined 12-34?

Warren quality win vs. the # 16 ranked team in AAA ( D1 Ohio) in West Virginia, Parkersburg South

Victory over the # 16 ranked team in class AA Point Pleasant. Both these teams should win out and finish with 7-3 records and make deep trips in the WV playoffs.

Warren also beat Meigs who will finish 5-5, but have played a schedule, that is made up of 3 teams that are 7-1, and 3 teams that are 6-2. Point is Meigs is much better then their record shows.




As for the how would Minford do vs. Portsmouth schedule. Here is how I see it.

S. Point - W (Minford should be able to out run the pointers but it would be a 2 score game)
West - W Minford already beat West, but I think it would have been a lot closer earlier in the season
Burg - W (Minford already beat the Burg, again if they played the same Burg the Trojans did that night I doubt the Falcons would have a chance. However they already beat them so I'll give them the win again
Jackson - L (Jackson would beat Minford through the air, then open up the running lanes)
Chilly - W (1-7 Chilly is struggling, but is better then their record indicates. Chilly has the better athletes, but wouldn't be able to put it together)
Gallia - L (This is the best 1-7 team around Gallia wins unless they shot themselves in the foot)
Warren - L (Warren would light Minford up through the air, no answer for the Warriors passing attack)
Ironton - L (Ironton would look similar as the Burg game did, with the Tigers on D, but on Offence the Tigers score at will)
Marietta - W (L if Marietta wasn't so injury depleted. The way the Tigers look Minford would pick up an easy win)
Western Brown - L (4-4 D-2 coming off a 10 win season from a year ago Western Brown has taken some lumps against some good teams, but their diverse play book would still be to much for the Flacons to stop. I think they would have a hard time stopping Minford as well. Look for a shoot out)

5-5 for the Falcons

Now PHS vs. Minford’s schedule
River Valley - W ( blow out, and we wouldn’t have to forfeit later)
Wellston - W- ( Trojans win by at least 2 scores)
Hunt. Ross W- ( Blowout,)
Coal Grove W- ( Trojans offence to much for the Hornets, although I see the Grove scoring some points)
Oak Hill - W ( Trojans secondary is much better then anything the oaks have seen this season, and have seen nothing like the Portsmouth spread attack, Trojans by 14)
Burg- L- ( Trojans still lose, but a closer game entering at 5-0)
West -W ( Trojans still win this one, about the same score)
Northwest- W-( Blowout)
Waverly- W- ( Blowout, good game if the Tigers were healthy, but I think the Trojans would still pickup the win)
Valley-W- ( Trojans win, Valley forced to run against the Trojans to little success , Indians slow Portsmouth passing attack, but can‘t contain Josh Myers on the ground )

that puts the Trojans at 9-1.

[Bleeding Red]

The SEOL is weak after Logan and Ironton the talent level drops off the table.

Is Portsmouth going to make the playoffs this year?

[TrojanXplosion]

The SEOL is weak after Logan and Ironton the talent level drops off the table.

Is Portsmouth going to make the playoffs this year?

The SEOAL is much stronger than the SOC II from top to bottom. You don't see any teams like Northwest in the SEOAL. And don't say that Marietta is that terrible. Yes, they are 1-7 but I would take them over some SOC II teams. Just like I would Chillicothe and Gallia Academy. Why do you hate P-town so much ?

[FarAwayFalcon]

Now PHS vs. Minford’s schedule
River Valley - W ( blow out, and we wouldn’t have to forfeit later)
Wellston - W- ( Trojans win by at least 2 scores)
Hunt. Ross W- ( Blowout,)
Coal Grove W- ( Trojans offence to much for the Hornets, although I see the Grove scoring some points)
Oak Hill - W ( Trojans secondary is much better then anything the oaks have seen this season, and have seen nothing like the Portsmouth spread attack, Trojans by 14)
Burg- L- ( Trojans still lose, but a closer game entering at 5-0)
West -W ( Trojans still win this one, about the same score)
Northwest- W-( Blowout)
Waverly- W- ( Blowout, good game if the Tigers were healthy, but I think the Trojans would still pickup the win)
Valley-W- ( Trojans win, Valley forced to run against the Trojans to little success , Indians slow Portsmouth passing attack, but can‘t contain Josh Myers on the ground )

that puts the Trojans at 9-1.

I'm not so sure portsmouth could beat coal grove to be honest with you, their run game would give portsmouth serious problems. And I think a game between them and oak hill would come down to whoever had the ball last wouldn't suprise me at all if the oaks won that one, their passing game is spot on. If portsmouth plays west at west early in the year they don't win that game either. They would play burg closer again but I doubt they win that one. I think valley would also give portsmouth all they wanted and could win as well. That would put the trojans at 5-5, 4-6 if they're in the SOC II and play Minford as well, IMO. I've seen portsmouth play and most of the teams talked about here so I do have something to base it on, nothing personal against portsmouth I just think this is how things would go for them.

[TrojanXplosion]

Now PHS vs. Minford’s schedule
River Valley - W ( blow out, and we wouldn’t have to forfeit later)
Wellston - W- ( Trojans win by at least 2 scores)
Hunt. Ross W- ( Blowout,)
Coal Grove W- ( Trojans offence to much for the Hornets, although I see the Grove scoring some points)
Oak Hill - W ( Trojans secondary is much better then anything the oaks have seen this season, and have seen nothing like the Portsmouth spread attack, Trojans by 14)
Burg- L- ( Trojans still lose, but a closer game entering at 5-0)
West -W ( Trojans still win this one, about the same score)
Northwest- W-( Blowout)
Waverly- W- ( Blowout, good game if the Tigers were healthy, but I think the Trojans would still pickup the win)
Valley-W- ( Trojans win, Valley forced to run against the Trojans to little success , Indians slow Portsmouth passing attack, but can‘t contain Josh Myers on the ground )

that puts the Trojans at 9-1.

I'm not so sure portsmouth could beat coal grove to be honest with you, their run game would give portsmouth serious problems. And I think a game between them and oak hill would come down to whoever had the ball last wouldn't suprise me at all if the oaks won that one, their passing game is spot on. If portsmouth plays west at west early in the year they don't win that game either. They would play burg closer again but I doubt they win that one. I think valley would also give portsmouth all they wanted and could win as well. That would put the trojans at 5-5, 4-6 if they're in the SOC II and play Minford as well, IMO. I've seen portsmouth play and most of the teams talked about here so I do have something to base it on, nothing personal against portsmouth I just think this is how things would go for them.

Did you only see Portsmouth play once against the supposed STATE CHAMPS in Ironton this year ?? Not trying to start anything friend.....You know what Im talking about

[FarAwayFalcon]

Yeah they did play well most of the game against ironton, one stop in the fourth quarter and who knows, maybe the trojans are atop the poll this week with no questions asked from me.

[Mikenmike]

I have a solution.

Why doesn't Minford go to bat for Portsmouth with the other members of the SOC and admit Portsmouth into SOC2? That way Minford and Portsmouth can play each year and none of this surmising will ever exist again!

I agree!!!! Im all for portsmouth being in the SOC. It would make the league one of the toughest IMO. Move them in move NW down, and you have 6 different teams that will compete for the title just about every year!. Minford is becoming a good program, Valley has alot of talent coming up(from what I have heard), west is always competitive, waverly has its years, burg is well burg, add portsmouth into that mix and that is one tough league(in football anyway ).