Wheelersburg (7-2) vs. Portsmouth West (6-3)

[eddie]

burg 77 looks to me like they are running a lot of the same plays with the flex, I, bone, split backs. so to me --i think he gets IT. playing like a team player. playing like a senior. seniors play like seniors---- that is the difference. not because now they are using him better. are u watching the games?

[seasick80]

looks like burgs path is thru MC and Freddies. Hard row to hoe!

[Burg_Grad_77]

burg 77 looks to me like they are running a lot of the same plays with the flex, I, bone, split backs. so to me --i think he gets IT. playing like a team player. playing like a senior. seniors play like seniors---- that is the difference. not because now they are using him better. are u watching the games?

Yes I'm watching the games. I have seen 6 games this year and earlier in the year Tyler was lucky to get 5 or 6 rushing attempts a game. The past few games has has been geting well over 10 a game and he has produced big numbers. I'm sure as long as they are winning Tyler doesn't care how many times he gets the ball because he is a team player and has been since I coached him in Little League, but he is threat to take it to the house almost every time he runs it so why not give him more opportunities.

[Black@Orange]

The best coaching staff won tonight. PERIOD! If you make the change at QB, after 9 weeks, do it for a reason. Locher is a nice runner, but they put him under center and let him hand it off. (up the middle). Surprise surprise. He!!, anyone could do that.
Put him in the pistol, and use his speed and running ability.

Then you bring Ratliff in when your down 21-0. He's a nice passer, let him play action pass out to the flat while rolling out. Stack your recievers. Make his reads easier.Mix it up, you have two of the best backs in the county. After awhile of MIXING IT UP, you will be able to pass or run at will.

You have coach to the talents of your players, and right now thats not being done at West. I like our coaching staff, but going undefeated in 9th and 10th grade, is not going to cut it. When they put 8-9 in the box, and we run it up the middle repeadly. It makes your line, your runningbacks, and coaching staff look bad. We are a much better team than were showing right now. And running your QB to the sidelines every play is ridiculus, just hold up 1,2,or 3. Because thats about how many plays we run.

[Burg#1]

Great job Pirates. Looked really sharp at running the ball tonight. Craigmiles IMO is the fastest back at the Burg since Danny Baker and that goes back a ways. Way to run the ball Tyler.


Great job by the Senators. Neve once gave up and kept on playing like they were down 7 instead 20. They will be very tough the next few years.


Burg now has to play the waiting game until Saturday night games are over to see if they will be playing at home in the playoffs. Cleveland St. Joe's plays a 7-2 team that if they win will really help the Burg out.


One thing that I'd like to add is that middle of the home stands for the Burg has to be the deadest fans I have ever seen. They just sit there on there hands, never hardly cheer and definetly don't stand and clap when they are playing the song right before the kickoff. Maybe Burg ought to put some people in the seats that actually care who wins the games, mainly the parents of the players.

absolutely right move them out of the middle-very true

[WestSide Pride]

good job burg and good luck.

[4thgoal]

One thing that I'd like to add is that middle of the home stands for the Burg has to be the deadest fans I have ever seen. They just sit there on there hands, never hardly cheer and definetly don't stand and clap when they are playing the song right before the kickoff. Maybe Burg ought to put some people in the seats that actually care who wins the games, mainly the parents of the players.

Well, it is called the RESERVED section for a reason. Many of these seats have been held by the same people since Ed Miller was coaching.

[fbnut]

burg 77 looks to me like they are running a lot of the same plays with the flex, I, bone, split backs. so to me --i think he gets IT. playing like a team player. playing like a senior. seniors play like seniors---- that is the difference. not because now they are using him better. are u watching the games?

Yes I'm watching the games. I have seen 6 games this year and earlier in the year Tyler was lucky to get 5 or 6 rushing attempts a game. The past few games has has been geting well over 10 a game and he has produced big numbers. I'm sure as long as they are winning Tyler doesn't care how many times he gets the ball because he is a team player and has been since I coached him in Little League, but he is threat to take it to the house almost every time he runs it so why not give him more opportunities.

if he keeps running the way he has the last 2 weeks I am guessing he will continue to get his carries. I talked to a valley coach this week and he said all the film they watched they had not seen him run the way he did against them.

[yabbadabbadoo]

One thing that I'd like to add is that middle of the home stands for the Burg has to be the deadest fans I have ever seen. They just sit there on there hands, never hardly cheer and definetly don't stand and clap when they are playing the song right before the kickoff. Maybe Burg ought to put some people in the seats that actually care who wins the games, mainly the parents of the players.

Well, it is called the RESERVED section for a reason. Many of these seats have been held by the same people since Ed Miller was coaching.

OK, so does that make them exempt from cheering or standing and supporting the team? They do absolutely nothing at all. The only time they stand is during the National Anthem. Saw a few of them cringe and just shake their heads when they played the song during kickoffs. I myself like it. It gets the crowd pumped up. It gets the players pumped up. I know it will never change because money talks and there are people in administration that don't want to step on any toes.

[fbbacker]

Congrats Burg on a big win last night. Good luck in the playoffs.

My hats off to the West side boys. They played a hard fought game and they didn't quit at all even when they were down big. A lot to look forward to for the future.

[BigOrangeOne]

One thing that I'd like to add is that middle of the home stands for the Burg has to be the deadest fans I have ever seen. They just sit there on there hands, never hardly cheer and definetly don't stand and clap when they are playing the song right before the kickoff. Maybe Burg ought to put some people in the seats that actually care who wins the games, mainly the parents of the players.

Well, it is called the RESERVED section for a reason. Many of these seats have been held by the same people since Ed Miller was coaching.

OK, so does that make them exempt from cheering or standing and supporting the team? They do absolutely nothing at all. The only time they stand is during the National Anthem. Saw a few of them cringe and just shake their heads when they played the song during kickoffs. I myself like it. It gets the crowd pumped up. It gets the players pumped up. I know it will never change because money talks and there are people in administration that don't want to step on any toes.

Give them a break.....
What exempts a lot of them from standing and cheering is arthritis, heart problems, lumbago, etc. It was said that a lot of them have been there since Miller was coaching.....actually, a lot of them have been there since Ed Miller was PLAYING and long before a lot of the current fans were even born. Many current fans now believe those older folks have earned the right to just come and enjoy the game and simply cheer with their hearts (and money) and leave the screaming to the younger folks. Believe me, they ARE cheering on the team !!
Some of those old codgers actually, physically, helped BUILD that stadium and have continued to help it grow by their support in attendance and contributions. Without them there may not even be a stadium there now. The fact that they have bought season tickets year after year, after year, after year and have continued to support the Pirates has greatly contributed to what the Pirate fans are so proud of today.
EVERY TIME Wheelersburg has an event that requires funding (even sponsoring the play by play on WNXT) the first place everybody runs is to Deemers Market in the Burg and Deemers always comes through. They have supported the Burg schools for years and years.... even back to their previous generation.... and guess what.... Mr. and Mrs. Deemer proudly occupy two of those reserved seats in the middle section and attend EVERY game even though they are 70+ years old. This is just one example. There are a LOT of others sitting in those seats that fit into the same category. Many believe they have EARNED the right to sit there.
I do......

[Burg_Grad_77]

Give them a break.....
What exempts a lot of them from standing and cheering is arthritis, heart problems, lumbago, etc. It was said that a lot of them have been there since Miller was coaching.....actually, a lot of them have been there since Ed Miller was PLAYING and long before a lot of the current fans were even born. Many current fans now believe those older folks have earned the right to just come and enjoy the game and simply cheer with their hearts (and money) and leave the screaming to the younger folks. Believe me, they ARE cheering on the team !!
Some of those old codgers actually, physically, helped BUILD that stadium and have continued to help it grow by their support in attendance and contributions. Without them there may not even be a stadium there now. The fact that they have bought season tickets year after year, after year, after year and have continued to support the Pirates has greatly contributed to what the Pirate fans are so proud of today.
EVERY TIME Wheelersburg has an event that requires funding (even sponsoring the play by play on WNXT) the first place everybody runs is to Deemers Market in the Burg and Deemers always comes through. They have supported the Burg schools for years and years.... even back to their previous generation.... and guess what.... Mr. and Mrs. Deemer proudly occupy two of those reserved seats in the middle section and attend EVERY game even though they are 70+ years old. This is just one example. There are a LOT of others sitting in those seats that fit into the same category. Many believe they have EARNED the right to sit there.
I do......

You give me a break because that is no excuse. My father is 73 years olds and that is the reason he quit sitting in the stands and now sits on the hill on the visitors side. He said he was tired of sitting with the "deadheads" as he called them who sit still the entire game and never cheer or root on the team. He now sits on the hill and has for years and he stands and cheers for the team when they do something good just like the rest of us do. The "old school" Burg fans have slowly but surely become complacent and stoic over the past 10 years or so.

Just look at the crowd that was there for the homecoming game against Waverly, especially the reserve section. I bet there weren't 100 people there in those seats. Yeah, there was a threat of rain that night, but it didn't start raining until the 4th quarter and even then it was just a light rain. That was by far the most pathetic crowd I have ever seen at a Burg homecoming game in the 38 years I've lived here. The hill was full of it's usual suspects though, you can bet your rearend on that, including my 73 year old father.

[fbnut]

I'm going to give them a break, many of them can barely get up and down the steps and many of them need help getting up and down the steps. I'm not going to give them a hard time because they don't stand up every time the school song plays.

[yabbadabbadoo]

I'm going to give them a break, many of them can barely get up and down the steps and many of them need help getting up and down the steps. I'm not going to give them a hard time because they don't stand up every time the school song plays.

Money talks I guess. The ONLY time they stand is during the National Anthem.

The two things that tick me off about the reserve sections is number one, the amount of empty seats each and every home game and the reason being is that, yeah, those people pay there money but they never attend the games. How about checking with them and asking them to just make a donation and giving up there seats so that they can be sold and filled? Sure they are buying the reserved seats but if they aren't attending then all the money you are getting from them is the seat fee. They aren't there buying programs or split the pot or concessions, so they are actually costing the school money. You could fill those seats with people who will actually come to the game and spend more money. I noticed at least 50 empty seats up around me last night in the reserved section, but still yet if you enquire about reserved seats you are told they are sold out and that there is a waiting list. R U serious!!!!!!!!!


The second thing is I think that the reserve seats should have a section for the parents of the players that rotates through each year. As your child leaves the program, you have to give up your seats to a new set of parents coming in. Should be the same for basketball, but it never happens that way and some people end up haveing to to stand to watch their child play. Don't agree with that.

I know it is never going to change and that is sad for the kids on the field.

[samiam]

There are more than the older set sitting in the middle section. I have observed it all year. The older fans I think are great, just getting out and supporting their team. It's the younger group I don't understand. When I say younger many are in their 30's, 40's etc. I don't think they understand what their cheering means for the team. I remember Ed Miller telling a group of fans one time how important it was during an important play to Yell - DEFENSE- over and over until the play was completed. Or if the team was trying to make an important first down to Yell - GO - over and over until they the play was finished. They're not difficult cheers to yell.
Good Luck Pirates and GO BURG GO - GO BURG GO!!!!!!

[yabbadabbadoo]

There are more than the older set sitting in the middle section. I have observed it all year. The older fans I think are great, just getting out and supporting their team. It's the younger group I don't understand. When I say younger many are in their 30's, 40's etc. I don't think they understand what their cheering means for the team. I remember Ed Miller telling a group of fans one time how important it was during an important play to Yell - DEFENSE- over and over until the play was completed. Or if the team was trying to make an important first down to Yell - GO - over and over until they the play was finished. They're not difficult cheers to yell.
Good Luck Pirates and GO BURG GO - GO BURG GO!!!!!!

I will have to agree with you. I guess I need to restate what I was tryng to say. Yes, I agree with that some of the older people that aren't able to stand, but have to agree with you on the younger people and there are quite a few of them that just sit on there hands and never say a word.

Like I said earlier, maybe move the older crowd up near the pressbox, keep them on the 5o, they have earned that, but if you are able to stand and you just don't, than you need to go. Donate your money and let someone else have those seats. Someone who will cheer for the team win or lose.

[BigOrangeOne]

I remember Ed Miller telling a group of fans one time how important it was during an important play to Yell - DEFENSE- over and over until the play was completed. Or if the team was trying to make an important first down to Yell - GO - over and over until they the play was finished.

I'd say that was a bunch of hype that coach Miller was selling to the fans for their benefit because I'd bet a dollar to a donut that if you asked coach Miller or any other GOOD football player honestly and one on one, he'd tell you that during a game he didn't even know there WERE fans in the stands. GOOD football players have their head in the game where it is supposed to be.... not in the stands.

[BigOrangeOne]

There are more than the older set sitting in the middle section. I have observed it all year. The older fans I think are great, just getting out and supporting their team.

I will have to agree with you. I guess I need to restate what I was tryng to say. Yes, I agree with that some of the older people that aren't able to stand.

I guess I need to restate what I was trying to say, too. What I said was, "What exempts a lot of them from standing and cheering is...." and I failed to go on and say that, as you folks said, there are certainly a lot of "younger" ones in there that fail to cheer also.
However, there are some folks, young AND old that just simply aren't into being loud and jumping up and down no matter where they are standing or sitting but they DO have their heart and soul into the game just as much as the screamers.
Some folks are just inherently more active and vocal. Some aren't.

[Burg_Grad_77]

I remember Ed Miller telling a group of fans one time how important it was during an important play to Yell - DEFENSE- over and over until the play was completed. Or if the team was trying to make an important first down to Yell - GO - over and over until they the play was finished.

I'd say that was a bunch of hype that coach Miller was selling to the fans for their benefit because I'd bet a dollar to a donut that if you asked coach Miller or any other GOOD football player honestly and one on one, he'd tell you that during a game he didn't even know there WERE fans in the stands. GOOD football players have their head in the game where it is supposed to be.... not in the stands.

So I guess when we see players waving their hands in the air to get fans to stand up that means they don't actually want it because they can't hear them or it doesn't mean anything. I don't buy that at all. The players feed off of the crowds noise and reactions to plays. If the fans are lound, boisterous, and fired up the so are the players.

[BigOrangeOne]

So I guess when we see players waving their hands in the air to get fans to stand up that means they don't actually want it because they can't hear them or it doesn't mean anything. I don't buy that at all. The players feed off of the crowds noise and reactions to plays. If the fans are lound, boisterous, and fired up the so are the players.

You missed one of the main lines in my post.....

"....if you asked coach Miller or any other GOOD football player..."

Go ask Coach Miller if he EVER saw a player on his team wave his hands to the crowd. Never happened. It seems to be just SOME of the younger "me" generation trying to draw attention to themselves. A GOOD player will be trying to rev up his teammates and not the crowd. (and he does that by his intense play on the field and not by screaming and yelling).