R19: 5) Wheelersburg vs. 1) Fredericktown@ Nelsonville York

[fbnut]

It isn't like they needed a full yard, they needed 6 inches.

It WAS a full yard. Do you want to see the pictures?

The ONLY reason we are arguing about that play call is that it was fumbled. If it was not fumbled, then the play was a great call.

Tyler Lang and Scott Walker had already fumbled that game and Julian Silvey had slipped cutting for a hole and lost yardage. All could have been good choices in that situation because they don't USUALLY do those things but the coaches were trying to make the safest choice--someone who had not fumbled more than once this season...

Coach Woodward is GREAT coach. He has all the attributes and skills that will only get better with time. I could not have scripted a better coach for this program. Yes, he is young and there are lessons to be learned--one of which is NOT to listen to idiots on the internet--even a plethora of them. But going off tackle verses going over center is just a choice. Neither choice was wrong.

281 to go!

Might be a little early to label him a great coach. Everything you said might be correct but lets wait a few yrs and see where the program heads. He was handed a pretty good program with 2-3 classes full of talent. He went 9-1 last yr with 9-1 talent, he went 8-2 with 9-1 talent. The talent will dry up somewhat after next yr, if he can go 7-3 with 5-5 talent I will come back on here and agree with you.

[BigOrangeOne]

Might be a little early to label him a great coach.

Burg#1 wrote:
"Coach Woodward is really good for the program both in the classroom and on the field his love for the game and the boys is very much appreciated from our community and we wouldnt trade him for anyone. His assistant coaches are awesome also and the boys love and respect them."

Many people, including myself, view what Burg#1 wrote to be more of a determining factor in judging whether he is a "great" coach rather than if he wins a particular game or not.

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[fbnut]

All that sounds great but at the burg eventually he will be judged by wins and losses, no different than any other coach. I am not saying he is not a good coach all I am saying is give him some time before people say he is great or people try to run him out of town. The burg had a pretty good BB coach a few yrs back that had a lot of success but 1-2 bad seasons and he was gone.

[BigOrangeOne]

The burg had a pretty good BB coach a few yrs back that had a lot of success but 1-2 bad seasons and he was gone.

Check out his W-L record for the last 2-3 years before he left......

[buckeyes3]

Quit making excuses that your players were hurt and that your coach called the wrong play, or that the knee was down before the ball came out on that play, and the knee may have been down when the safety was called. The games over...there's nothing you can do now. Wheelersburg had a great season but personally I think the game was much closer than it should have been. If it wouldn't have been for two bonehead mistakes by Fredericktown in the first half, Wheelersburg would not have even scored a touchdown. Fredericktown's defense stopped the Wheelersburg offense on the first drive but on the punt return, a Fredericktown player fumbled the ball to give Wheelersburg momentum and great field position. Also on another play later in the first half, Fredericktown had wheelersburg at about 4th and 27, or 4th and 24 and a Fredericktown player interferred with a Wheelersburg receiver to get the pass interference call and it gave Wheelersburg an automatic first down at around the ten yard line. When the Fredericktown Freddies came out in the second half, they shut down Wheelersburgs "three headed monsters" or whatever you all called them. Late in the 4th quarter, the reason Wheelersburg converted that 4th and 20 play was because Fredericktown's coaches didn't call a timeout when their defense was all out of whack. They had guys so out of position that they didn't know what to do and for some reason no timeout was called. Wheelersburg converted on a 20 to 30 yard passing play and got the 1st down to keep their drive going. So for all of you thinking Fredericktown isn't as good as their record shows , they didn't play to their ability on Friday night so you didn't see what we are capable of.

[BigOrangeOne]

Quit making excuses that your players were hurt and that your coach called the wrong play, or that the knee was down before the ball came out on that play, and the knee may have been down when the safety was called. The games over...there's nothing you can do now. Wheelersburg had a great season but personally I think the game was much closer than it should have been. If it wouldn't have been for two bonehead mistakes by Fredericktown in the first half, Wheelersburg would not have even scored a touchdown. Fredericktown's defense stopped the Wheelersburg offense on the first drive but on the punt return, a Fredericktown player fumbled the ball to give Wheelersburg momentum and great field position. Also on another play later in the first half, Fredericktown had wheelersburg at about 4th and 27, or 4th and 24 and a Fredericktown player interferred with a Wheelersburg receiver to get the pass interference call and it gave Wheelersburg an automatic first down at around the ten yard line. When the Fredericktown Freddies came out in the second half, they shut down Wheelersburgs "three headed monsters" or whatever you all called them. Late in the 4th quarter, the reason Wheelersburg converted that 4th and 20 play was because Fredericktown's coaches didn't call a timeout when their defense was all out of whack. They had guys so out of position that they didn't know what to do and for some reason no timeout was called. Wheelersburg converted on a 20 to 30 yard passing play and got the 1st down to keep their drive going. So for all of you thinking Fredericktown isn't as good as their record shows , they didn't play to their ability on Friday night so you didn't see what we are capable of.

TALK ABOUT MAKING EXCUSES

The game is over. Freddies won. Let it go..

[buckeyes3]

Excuses? Are you serious? Why would I need to make excuses when we won the game.. my point is that the game shouldn't have been that close anyways and wouldn't have been if we didn't make those two mistakes. It doesn't matter I just get tired of hearing how Ridgewood is going to kill Fredericktown. And also how Wheelersburg should have won by at least 2 or 3 td's and if their players were healthy, the game would not have even been close. That's all BS! Fredericktown won and advanced and you Wheelersburg fans should be rooting for them because if Ftown wins, it makes your team look better.

[BigOrangeOne]

Excuses? Are you serious? Why would I need to make excuses when we won the game...

I dunno... but you made a whole page of them there. I guess you were making excuses for why it was so close. I dunno.

[BigOrangeOne]

Wheelersburg fans should be rooting for them because if Ftown wins, it makes your team look better.

BTW... I'm rootin' for 'em... but I like the way our team looks anyway, thanks.

[Neutron Man]

neutron man
i am not bashing u but i do think u make some really bad choices regarding ur remarks on this site. it is ovious ur just a bleacher coach and know very little about football preperation. i too have friends and family involved with the football program --both players and coaches and i am a alumni. i do know 100% that the players get a kick out of ur post and others on here. i can take 8 +'s wins with a playoff birth each year. the only thing i want to happen for the 2010 season that didnt in 2009 is the soc title.

I'm glad you have all this knowledge about football and I know so little.
I guess I should yield to all opinions before I check with you first.
Who cares if you have family and friends in football programs. So do I! And I obviously know nothing about football!
This is an open forum for people to express their opinions. People need to quit getting so offended.

If all you want each year is a SOC title, then you don't have goals!

I seem to be the only person on her that can't have an opinion. When someone else says a negative its shrugged off!!

[Bleeding Red]

Buckeye- the Freddies got a gift Friday against Burg. After watching Ridgewood play Minford, the Freddies better get 14 guys in the box or they are gonna run till Saturday on your defense.......

[eddie]

neutron its because u say thinks that are not correct. u r not football savvy. timing is off. or something like that. u do not make me think out of the box. not trying to be disrespectful to u but u state the obvious--like everyone knew we had trouble passing-- then u are very neg. that is boring.

[yabbadabbadoo]

Quit making excuses that your players were hurt and that your coach called the wrong play, or that the knee was down before the ball came out on that play, and the knee may have been down when the safety was called. The games over...there's nothing you can do now. Wheelersburg had a great season but personally I think the game was much closer than it should have been. If it wouldn't have been for two bonehead mistakes by Fredericktown in the first half, Wheelersburg would not have even scored a touchdown. Fredericktown's defense stopped the Wheelersburg offense on the first drive but on the punt return, a Fredericktown player fumbled the ball to give Wheelersburg momentum and great field position. Also on another play later in the first half, Fredericktown had wheelersburg at about 4th and 27, or 4th and 24 and a Fredericktown player interferred with a Wheelersburg receiver to get the pass interference call and it gave Wheelersburg an automatic first down at around the ten yard line. When the Fredericktown Freddies came out in the second half, they shut down Wheelersburgs "three headed monsters" or whatever you all called them. Late in the 4th quarter, the reason Wheelersburg converted that 4th and 20 play was because Fredericktown's coaches didn't call a timeout when their defense was all out of whack. They had guys so out of position that they didn't know what to do and for some reason no timeout was called. Wheelersburg converted on a 20 to 30 yard passing play and got the 1st down to keep their drive going. So for all of you thinking Fredericktown isn't as good as their record shows , they didn't play to their ability on Friday night so you didn't see what we are capable of.

The Burg's "three headed monster" was definetley not in the game in the second half. One-third of them wasn't playing at all in the second half(Craigmiles), another third of them shouldn't have been playing(Schankweiler) and that only left the last third(Lang) who did very well. You take your main player(s) out for your team and let's see if you have a chance to win at the end of the game. Burg had some players, Seniors to step up and they gave Fredericktown all they wanted and I'm sure had your butt tighten up when they had the ball on the 1 yrd line(so the great doc says). Burg no where near played up to their abilities with the injuries they had, so you in no way, shape or form played there best. Just ask Monroe Central how good those three runners were. Ran for almost 400 yards against MC and the way Craigmiles, #22 ran on the first TD drive against FT, I don't think they would have stopped him. Only the hamstring injury stopped him.