Division II @ Logan

[Schnellfritz]

Warren Local HS is 14-4.

[Ironman92]

I agree 100% with open post


2 or 3 and 4 or 5 don't matter at all.....but I believe that would be fair...heck they'd be pretty fair anyways

[LoganElm_grad09]

No disrespect intended, but I gotta tell you, Athens win over Greenup sounds as good as Warrens over Chilli. Beating a 9-7 team no matter who they played is a bit of a stretch in trying to justify a higher seed, but really as I said earlier, the real prize is the #1 seed, 2 or 3 both will have good first round opponents and will have to play each other to get out.

No offense taken. However, Chillicothe plays the toughest schedule in southeastern Ohio by far. If they played the schedule of most of the teams in our area their record would be much different. To me that counts for something. Greenup is a good basketball team, but let's be honest with ourselves. They are not on Chillicothe's level. Once again it really doesn't matter who gets the 2 or 3 seed. Everyone is just trying to avoid playing Logan Elm anyway.

Chillicothe does play a brutal schedule. But the question is how many of those tough teams have they beat? A tough schedule doesn't mean as much if you beat some of those teams rather than lose to them all but win against easier opponents.

Who were their wins against?

[93Bulldog]

After another big win out of Vinton County Saturday versus Pileton ... this sectional is without a doubt the toughest in Southeastern Ohio ... The D-3 in Jackson is pretty tough, but not as loaded as the Logan D-II in my oppinion.

[Daniel Larusso]

No disrespect intended, but I gotta tell you, Athens win over Greenup sounds as good as Warrens over Chilli. Beating a 9-7 team no matter who they played is a bit of a stretch in trying to justify a higher seed, but really as I said earlier, the real prize is the #1 seed, 2 or 3 both will have good first round opponents and will have to play each other to get out.

No offense taken. However, Chillicothe plays the toughest schedule in southeastern Ohio by far. If they played the schedule of most of the teams in our area their record would be much different. To me that counts for something. Greenup is a good basketball team, but let's be honest with ourselves. They are not on Chillicothe's level. Once again it really doesn't matter who gets the 2 or 3 seed. Everyone is just trying to avoid playing Logan Elm anyway.

Chillicothe does play a brutal schedule. But the question is how many of those tough teams have they beat? A tough schedule doesn't mean as much if you beat some of those teams rather than lose to them all but win against easier opponents.

Who were their wins against?

Chillicothe's Schedule

Dec 5 Xenia 67 53
Dec 12 at Logan Elm 34 49
Dec 18 at Ironton * 48 51
Dec 22 at Marietta * 47 37
Dec 29 Gallia Academy * 52 44
Jan 5 at Portsmouth * 45 42
Jan 9 at Pickerington Central 37 46
Jan 12 at Warren * 63 52
Jan 15 at Jackson * 77 57
Jan 19 Logan * 63 48
Jan 22 Ironton * 48 59
Jan 23 Canton Timken 42 59
Jan 29 Marietta * 63 48
Feb 2 Portsmouth * 2 OT 66 61
Feb 8 at Gallia Academy * 33 21
Feb 12 Warren * 42 43
Feb 13 Reynoldsburg 45 53
Feb 16 Waverly
Feb 18 Jackson *
Feb 20 Logan *

Overall 10-7

[Dundas]

Feb. 22nd
8 New Lex vs. 9 Marietta

Feb. 23rd
Semi-Final

2 Athens vs. 7 Gallia

3 Warren vs. 6 Fairfield Union

Feb. 24th
Semi-Final

1 Logan Elm vs. 8/9 winner

4 Sheridan vs. 5 Vinton County

[Dundas]

Looks like were gonna have some good 1st round matchups!

Athens beat Gallia soundly early in the season...I look for them to do the same again.

Fairfield U upset Logan Elm earlier this season so Warrne could have its hands full. I think Warren will come out on top.

Logan Elm should make it past their first round game.

Vinton County and Sheridan have one common opponent in John Glenn. VC beat JG and I think Sheridan split with them. I think VC will have their hands full but if they play like they did against Piketon, they should get by the Generals and meet LE in the semis.

Athens plays Sheridan this week, which should be a good opportunity to see just how the 2 and 4 matchup.

What does everyone else think?

[open_post]

Fairfield Union will be battle tested when they enter the sectional....they play Bloom Carroll, Logan Elm and Teays Valley this week. I also saw in the paper that the Feasal kid played against Canal Winchester on Friday night. He has been out all year with an injury. If he gets in basketball shape they will have a chance to upset Warren. I look for this to be a great game.

I also think the VC-Sheridan game will be a great 1st round match-up.

The two teams from each sectional that make it to the Convo will have earned the trip.

[Daniel Larusso]

Looks like were gonna have some good 1st round matchups!

Athens beat Gallia soundly early in the season...I look for them to do the same again.

Fairfield U upset Logan Elm earlier this season so Warrne could have its hands full. I think Warren will come out on top.

Logan Elm should make it past their first round game.

Vinton County and Sheridan have one common opponent in John Glenn. VC beat JG and I think Sheridan split with them. I think VC will have their hands full but if they play like they did against Piketon, they should get by the Generals and meet LE in the semis.

Athens plays Sheridan this week, which should be a good opportunity to see just how the 2 and 4 matchup.

What does everyone else think?

Totally different Gallia team. Especially now that they have their best player back.

[Spartan]

What a good sectional tourney. The draw came out about as expected, and everything appears to be pretty legit. Seeds 1-5 are very very good, seeds 6-7 are certainly capable, seed 8 has won 4 of last 6, and seed 9 seems to be able to play with anybody for a half. Not sure any loss could be considered a legit upset as is the case in past tournaments.


I doubt any team is the same as it was the first month of the season actually.

[Dundas]

Very true Spartan...no way does Athens lose to Jackson if they met tomorrow.

[Space Cowboy]

Looks like were gonna have some good 1st round matchups!

Athens beat Gallia soundly early in the season...I look for them to do the same again.

Fairfield U upset Logan Elm earlier this season so Warrne could have its hands full. I think Warren will come out on top.

Logan Elm should make it past their first round game.

Vinton County and Sheridan have one common opponent in John Glenn. VC beat JG and I think Sheridan split with them. I think VC will have their hands full but if they play like they did against Piketon, they should get by the Generals and meet LE in the semis.

Athens plays Sheridan this week, which should be a good opportunity to see just how the 2 and 4 matchup.

What does everyone else think?

Totally different Gallia team. Especially now that they have their best player back.

Gallia may very well be a different team now, but Athens is better than they were, earlier in the season. Ill go with Athens, in this game.

[Dundas]

Seems like most games are tighter in the tourny...but i definatly dont see Gallia beating Athens.

[noreply66]

If Gallipolis was to beat Athens I wouldn't be shocked.
Gallipolis plays three good quarters and if they can keep from having that bad one they can do it.

[Falcon01]

Fu should have beaten canal. Fu was completely robbed in the final minute. Feasel being back gives Fu a go to guy now. Litt is a solid player who has a great looking shot, very smooth. After those two, you have about 6 very scrappy players. All of who can get hot. Especially Stewart and Mathias. We will see what Fu can put together this week.

[Ironman92]

Dundas...that is idiotic. How in God's name could you possibly say "No way does Athens lose to Jackson if they met tomorrow"


What are you basing that on? We won by T-W-E-N-T-Y S-I-X points. We played the MAJORITY of the game without Morgan Dobbins.....what are you basing your argument on? The fact that Athens hasn't lost since? The fact that Jackson has lost 9 games while playing twice as difficult schedule? I will concede that it is very likely IF Jackson had Athens' schedule that they would not have just 1 loss, as Jackson has been too inconsistent and we'd probably would've have lost about 4 games with Athens' schedule......but what would Athens record be playing with Jackson's schedule? No we'll never know, but Ironton twice, Portsmouth twice, Chillicothe twice, Warren twice...not too mention 1 loss Athens...which again...we beat by 26. Any comment less than 4 losses just playing those teams is ignorant....I'd guess 5 or 6.

I don't expect Gallipolis to beat Athens...I do expect that the margin will be significantly closer. How can anyone say that Gallipolis won't beat Athens and then say no way Athens would lose to Jackson...it's just not being reasonable.

Remember...very early Athens beat Gallipolis by 25.....a few days later (or before) Jackson beat Athens by 26 and then of course Jackson beats Gallipolis by 51???? No....Jackson LOST at home to Gallipolis by double digits.

NO way...is it correct to say "no way Jackson beats Athens if they play tomorrow"......Now had you said "I believe if Jackson played Athens tomorrow it would be a much better game with Athens having a good chance to win"......I would competely agree with that.

No way= o% Had I typed "if Zane Trace played Vinton County again tomorrow no way would it be within 20 points" I'd have 2 VC guys on here on me telling me that is the dumbest thing they've ever read on here. There is little difference.

[Spartan]

Gentlemen,

It is all speculation. Nobody knows for sure the ifs, ands, or buts. All we know for sure is the reality of the present, and the present when it comes to past. Athens could lose to Gallia and in no way would it soil my opinion of what they have accomplished during this season, it would be just one game. A team can stub their toe early in the season and even mid or late season and bounce back, they do it all the time. But if a team stubs their toe in the post season, it is over. The games already played really do not matter at this point. And you can argue schedule until the cows come home. I posted earlier, people usually only use the strength of schedule as an excuse if it benefits them. If Warren or Jackson were in the TVC Ohio they would have a different perspective, but because they are not, they can use the strength of schedule as an excuse. We all know that league play, no matter what league you play in, is always very competitive. Being an Athens native, I will tell you, we get everybody's best shot in this league, and since we are good, we get even a better shot from them.
If Athens loses to Gallia than all the blow hard experts will come on here and say, see I told you so. It they beat Gallia only their fans or TVC bretheren will give them any kudos. Honestly, I dont think they care. They will be motivated to play Gallia.

[Dundas]

Your right 92. If Jackson and Athens met tomorrow Jackson would win by 26. They are 26 points better than the current Athens team. Your facts have certainly made me realize that. The fact that Athens hasnt lost since means nothing..The fact that Jackson has gone from the biggest surprise, to a team that gives away games means nothing..and im talking about teams they SHOULD beat. I know Jackson is in the Seoal and they have bigger teams to play, BUT out of those teams, who have they beat? Athens, plays a weaker schedule and lost Jackson by 26 in the second game of the year..but c'mon 92...quit being a homer and admit that Athens is playing MUCH better ball that Jackson..Obvbiously any team can win on any givin night...there is no 100% locked in victories...but If you think Jackson would beat Athens tomorrow, you have tunnel vision. Name calling isnt very classy 92...so ill refraine from calling you an idiot.

[Ironman92]

you are not an idiot.....but I believe the way your statement was worded was idiotic

When did I say anything about Jackson winning by 26 in another matchup....I said, and you can look above "if they played again I imagine it would be a much better game with Athens having a good chance of winnning" I agree with that statement....that is my homeristic view if they were to play again tomorrow. I also mentioned how inconsistent Jackson has been and would have 4 or so losses with Athens' schedule.....what is homeristic or unreasonable about that?

My biggest issue was your wording that gave Jackson 0% chance.

and sometines I am an idiot...for that I apologize


Best of luck to all teams in their tournament games! VC is playing much better it appears, Athens has proved over and over how to get it done and Gallipolis has definately improved at their version of Ozzy ball. Jackson has to face Waverly and then Chillicothe if they can pull off the initial upset. We have a high ceiling as we have proved......but we haven't been high enough up the ladder lately to keep it painted.

And for my most homerific guess of all.....I look for Jackson to have trouble @ VC Saturday. We barely survivied Wellston the next day after Chilly ran us...we'll have to do a better job of using players this Friday @ Chilly or it could get ugly! Does VC have a game Friday night?.....and quite honestly under any circumstances VC would be the favorite over Jackson.....but it would be a good game more often than past years. It's nice to have a formidable coach. VC is lucky to have what they do and his willingness to stay there where he has been treated well.

[The Wizard]

In just a few days, weather permitting, we will find out if the TVC schedule has prepared Athens for the tourney or not. If the seeds advance they will play Warren for sectional championship and trip to convo.