Clay 51 Notre Dame 44

[WWH]

Just go away, you said you don't care if they win or not, so why bother posting on Clay threads.

You're a tool dude. IDK means, I don't know. Care starts with the letter c. You even spelled it with a c. You're just trying to deflect attention from yourself. Read the post again and let me KNOW what you think. Who's probably a kid, hypocrite ???

[my2cents]

Well that's just too funny (or should I say TFF). Your attitude and statements just made me think you don't care. Hypocrite?, I think you have used that one before.(are you running out of cute Internet name calling words to use?) I went back and read most of your post, and I haven't found one statement about Clay basketball that actually says anything at all about basketball. One of your first post was telling Burggrad77 to shut up his big mouth and go back to cleaning bathrooms at McDonalds. (you went downhill from there)
I really don't give a flying fish who you are, you have nothing to add to the threads. I have in fact changed my post to say that for the first time in three years Coach T had made some adjustments. Everyone knows if you want to shut up the dissenters you need to win. You refuse to debate the games on here, just come back with some cocky smart mouth replies.
For those who read these threads to actually debate the basketball games, I think the new press break, bringing the big man up to the middle of the court is the main reason TO's have gone from 30+ to around 15 per game. Going away from straight man to man defense has cut down on the uncontested lay-ups. Graham has played more minutes in the past two game, and that seems to have helped give the other two big guys a breather.
Problems that still need addressed are in inbounds against full court pressure and holding onto leads. Clay blew a 16 point lead against Green and 11 point lead against SV. They also took some poor shot selection at the end of the SV game, at a time when they should have just held onto the ball. IMO

[Burg_Grad_77]

I believe that if Clay can keep the turnovers down to a minimum that they can win a few more ballgames this season. You can't give up 25+ extra possessions to your opponent and expect to win.

Good luck to the Panthers of Clay High!!

[claypantherfan]

WWH , have you ever said any thing good about the players on here if not then why do you keep posting on the Clay threads?

Does the truth hurt ??? I give credit where credit is do. If they do the work, they will win. Maybe they are starting to figure it out. Maybe ???

The truth dont hurt when they have a very athletic team and they are talented

[Jake Lane]

The wins are coming from good game planning, and determination from the boys!

[rosemount rebel]

GREAT WIN BOYS.....STILL HAVE TO WORK HARD NO TEAM WILL LET YOU BEAT THEM. waterdog said your are playing smarter i didnt see it. some of you are some of you are not! you are taking care of the ball that is great. you cant have 28 turnovers a game and win. you have to be smarter late in the game. [ what im talking about is with 55sec left in game and a 3 point lead dont shoot the ball let them foul you go to the line make your foul shoot not only did they do it once but twice you got to be kidding me!] i know you will learn from your mistakes. so keep working hard get better and good things will come. COME GREAT SACRIFICE COMES GREAT REWARDS. waterdog you left PORTER OUT HE PLAYS HIS BUTT OFF ON BOTH SIDES OFF THE BALL. KEEP IT UP!!!!!!!! SO GOOD LUCK TONIGHT vs N.D. GO GET AFTER THEM AND WIN....... THIS MEANS YOU TOO J.V.

[Waterdog]

Rosemount Rebel, You are right, Porter does play his butt off and deserves recognition. He seems to be consistent and he probably doesn't get enough playing time considering his skill level. As for the 3 point mistake , I also agree with you on that. Some players seem to put their own personal scoring above winning. If someone is not a team player, I am afraid they might start sitting the bench. Everyone makes mistakes, however and hopefully they can learn from them. It is fun to watch the boys play now that the coach has made some adustments. At least they have a chance to show their talent that others were sure they didnt have any of.
Good Luck tonight against the Titans.

[Burg_Grad_77]

[ what im talking about is with 55sec left in game and a 3 point lead dont shoot the ball let them foul you go to the line make your foul shoot not only did they do it once but twice you got to be kidding me!] i know you will learn from your mistakes.

That is either the coach not telling them to hold the ball until they are fouled or a player who just isn't listening and doing what the coach wants. If it's the coach he needs to know that he has to tell his kids to hold the ball until they fouled even if he has to burn a T.O. to do so. If it's the player then he needs to be sat down for a while until he learns to do what the coach wants.

[ManitouDan]

28-20 clay at the 1/2 MD

[easternclaw]

WAY TO GO CLAY PANTHERS!!!!!!!!! You are playing so well. Your coach finally changed a little and it made the difference in your team. Cody D. played like he was on fire!! Valentine & Burchett are getting more calm and confident in each game and Chaz stepped up his game to boot. All the others are playing smart, good basketball and I think this season might just turn out to be successful. Tibbs is a great player for Symmes Valley. They are going to miss him when he graduates.
Good Luck with Notre Dame. They are always competitve.

Waterdog, this is a friendly response, I swear. I laughed hysterically when i saw this because it's a notre dame vs. clay thread and you brought up tibbs out of nowhere. you can post whatever you want when you want, but i couldn't help but chuckle when i saw this. it's like you were counting from 1-10 and then threw a letter in there for no reason. ok, now i feel better getting that off my chest.

[Bleachrbum]

final ?

[claybasketball#05]

clay came downd with a nice victory and a realy good game

[pistolpete40]

What was the score?

[ManitouDan]

clay by 4 my kid said MD

[my2cents]

CLAY 12 16 15 8 51
N. D. 15 5 10 14 44

ND jumped out to an early lead at but had committed 10 fouls halfway thru the second quarter. Clay was hitting their foul shots, so that was a big factor. Valentine hit 9 of 11 and the team hit 15 total to ND's 3. Clay had a 43 - 28 lead with a minute left in the third, but failed to hold onto it. That's the third game in a row that they have lost late leads. They went into a bit of a stall looking for just lay ups, and missed several of them and let ND come back to 48 - 44 with 2 minutes in the game. Clay made the same mental mistakes again at the end of the game, up 5 points with a minute left they forced up a couple of shots instead of holding the ball and making ND foul. They also couldn't get the ball inbounds with 43 seconds left, but did avoid the 5 second call by throwing a full court pass, but turned it over on a travel when the ball was caught. That is still better than taking the 5 and giving the ball up under ND's basket. They played a mix of zone and man to man defense and kept ND from getting into a good rhythm.

CLAY
VALENTINE 16
BURCHETTE 12
LAWSON 12
DELOTELL 4
GRAHAM 4
BUSSLER 3
PORTER 1

ND (sorry if the names are wrong)
22 ENDING 3
20 GLOCKENR 6
24 JULY 1
12 PEREZ 5
34 PIERRON 13
23 LOCKNER 2
43 EVANS 2
11 NOEL 2

Both student sections were entertaining yelling back and forth at each other. It was good to see support out for both teams. Good luck to ND the rest of the season, and let's hope Clay can carry this winning streak over to New Boston on Friday. God, I hate that gym, and it's homecoming!

[claypantherfan]

It wasn't a pretty win for Clay but a win is a win and they have now won 4 in a row to go 5-2 in soc play. Good Job Panthers Keep it up!!!

[Waterdog]

Clay boys you must be butter , cause your on a roll !! Congratulations, Nice passes by Duduit tonight. Graham, Porter and Lawson doing a good job in the post. The team seems to be be having fun. Good Luck, Friday. New Boston always does good in their home court.

[Burg_Grad_77]

Congrats to Clay on their 4th win in a row. It looks like they are on the cusp of turning this season around. It sounds like they still need some discipline if they are chucking up shots with the lead and under a minute to go. If the coach is telling them not to and they still are then that's a problem. If he's not telling them to not shoot and wait for the foul then that's a problem. One way or the another, it sounds like it needs to be corrected.

Congrats to JV on another great game. Great job at the free throw line. Your dad never could hit one of those. lol

[Eaglesnest]

Congrats to Clay on the turnaround. I guess the coach should get ALL the credit for the wins (he was sure getting ALL the blame on the losses). Just kidding.

Best of luck to Panthers (except against the Eagles )

[TripleDouble]

This clay team reminds me alot of the Eastern teams the last couple years. When Fitch first came to the Eagles all of the seniors now were soph's, some starting varsity, but all getting varsity playing time. (ala Clay's current talented jr. class last year). I believe they only won 4 games that year and a lot of ppl were complaining about the coaching from Fitch. I'm not afraid to admit that I was one that was also concerned at the time. (I believe clay had around the same record last year starting 3 sophs) Last year the Eagles only had 2 seniors and alot of juniors, the finished they year 12-9. A good record, but not as good as some of the fans expected from that team (Another comparison to clay this year. They are now 5-4 I believe, but some expected maybe only 1 or 2 losses at this point) The Eagles have come out this year with a loaded senior class with 4 of them having 3 years of varisty experience, some have started all 3 years. I'm not saying clay will have to wait till next year to have a good season, just that things are starting to turn towards the direction clay fans wanted them to be in. All the experience these kids got last year and are getting now this team will only get better. Some Eastern fans thought Fitch was a bad fit after his first year and after some games last year. But the teams were just young and still learning the ins and outs of his system. Now it seems like a smart hire and he's possibly the best coach in the SOC. Trainer and the players look like their starting to trust and understand each other better. Just thought I would throw my 2cents in their. I guess their is already a my2cents, so I'll throw in my 3 cents lol. Clay fans just need to be patient with this team, they remind of Eastern's teams and only good things will come. Just hopefully not against Eastern