A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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shaynew wrote:No team can take losing 3 starters ? So every team that starts 3 seniors is done for next year just a ?


No, I don't think you expect to get your seniors back the following yr. More like take 3 starters off any team right now. I am guessing the burg might have a little better ball club if those 3 kids would have played but they didn't so they are 4-5 but don't try to convince me the burg is no better if those kids would have played.


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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Valley lost 3 starters from last year n theyr playin really well this year


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I agree that those players would be contributing to this season no doubt, but come on they are not playing and people need to start focusing on the players that do play. Burg just needs to get in sync with each other and play BURG BALL. It is just a matter a time and things will be sorted right, Barrick and his experienced coaching staff will figure it out.


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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Maybe there is nothing to figure out, this might be a .500 team.


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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Maverick77 wrote:Valley lost 3 starters from last year n theyr playin really well this year

They had 3 starters last yr that were not seniors that did not play this yr?


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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fbnut wrote:Maybe there is nothing to figure out, this might be a .500 team.


On the other hand fbnut, you may be right. Who knows :)


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JMO...This team will be tough come seasons end.. I do think they will get it turned around and make some noise in the Tourny.. All be it a tough one at Jackson..WOW..


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I simply believe all their players are not getting involved in the shooting game. I think the team might be a .500 team thisyear because the SOC II is rampit with great teams..who can beat eachother on any given night. Valley, Waverly, Burg, Oak Hill, Webster, Northwest and Minford..... West is still building but will play you to the bitter end...That is a tough conference. But Burg has to start hitting shots from the perimeter or it is going to be the same scenario the rest of the season. BUrg still plays valley twice, Waverly at home, at Northwest, at Oak Hill, Webster Home, at Minford, and Ironton.....

Also, Diduit is a sub for Stegman when Stegman is in foul trouble or needs a breather. Diduit is 6'4 and Stegman 6'5...how about play them together some to take the pressure off Stegman??? Not all the time, but it would add some height to the floor..this should give the shooters some more open looks to hit some shots to give them confidence....they lack confidence so bad and you can see it in their faces....they have never been in this kind of low. One guy on here said, "no one is a vocal leader on the floor"..I thought about that and it is so true..I remember the captains yelling and calling out plays, getting players pumped up...I have seen none of that...I would like to see Bendolph be a leader..meaning, the kid can handle the ball naturally like a baby, but I would like to see him vocally take control.

I am a huge Burg fan, but I can honestly say the SOC II is too strong for Burg to run the table from here..They need to figure who is going to step up and be a leader and THEN keep playing hard and maybe sneak a few wins in the post season.


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FortheLoveoftheGame wrote:I agree that those players would be contributing to this season no doubt, but come on they are not playing and people need to start focusing on the players that do play. Burg just needs to get in sync with each other and play BURG BALL. It is just a matter a time and things will be sorted right, Barrick and his experienced coaching staff will figure it out.


What exactly is "burg ball"? Barricks been running the same system for 15 years. :?


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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They just don't have the skill like other teams in the SOC 2 (examples Waverly, Oak Hill, Valley, South Webster)


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I have to disagree with some of you. The conference is no tougher top to bottom than it has been. Yes, it looks like Oak Hill is the cream of the crop again. Yes, Waverly has talent-um, coaching?? South webster-quick-good guard play??? Northwest-Leslie and Kreig Crabtree-start for any team in conference-more talent then they are showing-um, coaching??? Valley-Big, great guard play-no defense-score, score, score???? West-just no care in the program for basketball-take a few years for Coach Bradford and then they still might not win??? Minford-No shooters???????

You might want to ask the players, Whitely, Kemper and Craigmiles why they chose not to play??? could it have to do with coach??? If these players and Shankwiller were playing this team would be right there with Oak Hill-I personally believe that they would be the #1 team in the conference!!!!!


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I feel the conference is the same as well Deere, I also feel like the starting 5 they have is good but when you have no solid depth at the bench then it wears on youre team. therefore those close games wheelersburg use to win in the past is not happening because they do not have the ability to go 9-10 deep like in the past.


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amazinghocks wrote:I feel the conference is the same as well Deere, I also feel like the starting 5 they have is good but when you have no solid depth at the bench then it wears on youre team. therefore those close games wheelersburg use to win in the past is not happening because they do not have the ability to go 9-10 deep like in the past.


Well, their bench isn't deep your right to some extent in my opinion, but Barrick has failed to utilize the shooters he does have on the bench, and I feel that has hurt the starting five because Lang has to shoot everything. The other guys on the starting five are not super shooters...and the few that didn't play were not outside shooters either. Whitley wasn't a great outside shooter and Kemper was a rebounder.


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I would have to disagree with ya a lil bit on that therepublican.. JMO.. Whitley could shoot from outside and take nothing away from Lang but he takes shots in the game and gets some buckets where the other players may take 2 to 4 the whole game.. I dont feel you can say a kid cant shoot the rock if he dont shoot it but a few times in a game.... I wouldnt say the starting 5 cant shoot they just dont except Lang, Bendolph, and Stegman.. I honestly believe the McBee kid can become an offensive threat from the outside if he would take his shots, but you have to keep in mind the kid is a freshman and just started Varsity ball 2 games ago and as he gets his confidence up I think he will become an offensive threat and become a star player in this league over the next 3 years..... I think Ward,Miller, Ballard,Massie etc. could contribute some points also and are capable of doing so , but you cant have kids jacking up 3's the entire game either.. The kids need a LEADER on the court , take the shots no matter who is the game if they have a good look and play with confidence, then I think you would see a different ball club offensivly along with some more cutters to the basket or some transition meaning some fast break points, at least a few each qtr.. Again this is JMO.. And I do agree with alot of your statements on here.. And I take nothing away from Barrick and his coaching staff.. I can promise you this he has those kids in the gym busting there butts in practice and working hard to get better..
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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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Wheelersburg lost no one to graduation and added Bendolph but were much better last year. That tells me they miss the kids who are not playing tremendously.


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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marshallman wrote:
FortheLoveoftheGame wrote:I agree that those players would be contributing to this season no doubt, but come on they are not playing and people need to start focusing on the players that do play. Burg just needs to get in sync with each other and play BURG BALL. It is just a matter a time and things will be sorted right, Barrick and his experienced coaching staff will figure it out.


What exactly is "burg ball"? Barricks been running the same system for 15 years. :?


JMO: Burg Ball= Knowing your roles on the court, demonstrating leadership, having confidence, stepping up to get the job done, and being fueled with intensity and determination. Believing in Wheelersburg basketball! Go Pirates!


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tigers2010onhuddle wrote:Wheelersburg lost no one to graduation and added Bendolph but were much better last year. That tells me they miss the kids who are not playing tremendously.


Bingo!!


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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coaching can't slide completely. they are viewed as geniouses when they have miller, spradlin, cowgill etc. good coaching is when you do not have great talent but still find a way to win. no scorers this year. stegman stays in foul trouble and not consistent. one game double figures next game not. guard and wing play weak. they do not seem to be that good defensively. teams in the past have worked harder. who can step it up?


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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FortheLoveoftheGame wrote:
marshallman wrote:
FortheLoveoftheGame wrote:I agree that those players would be contributing to this season no doubt, but come on they are not playing and people need to start focusing on the players that do play. Burg just needs to get in sync with each other and play BURG BALL. It is just a matter a time and things will be sorted right, Barrick and his experienced coaching staff will figure it out.


What exactly is "burg ball"? Barricks been running the same system for 15 years. :?


JMO: Burg Ball= Knowing your roles on the court, demonstrating leadership, having confidence, stepping up to get the job done, and being fueled with intensity and determination.

I would say all schools follow this philosophy. OH and SW state champions in the last 5 years I'm sure are saying the same thing.


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Re: A 4w-5L Wheelersburg??

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Bing!Bing!Bing!
In johndeere ,we have a winner!


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