TROJANS 2010?

[West Side Pride]

I believe the Instructor 100% and would believe his statement to be true. I also think that Minford would
dodge Portsmouth and avoid a game. Just my opinion.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Minford was given a shot at Portsmouth for 6 straight years from 2000 - 2005, and never came close to a victory. They were forced off the schedule do to joining the SEOAL, recently we have had openings with teams dropping out of the league, but the Falcons decided it was in their best interest to not go down that road again.
Every few years Minford, (and some of the other local teams that have no interest in playing Portsmouth in most years) starts talking about how they are better than PHS, and wished they had them on the schedule, but this only happens when their schools have a strong group coming through.
The fact is that for some reason no local teams with the exception of Burg and West want anything to do with PHS on a year in and year out bases.

[trojanofthepast]

I can say with 100% reliability that your source is incorrect.


The Trojans should be very good this year. I intently fully on attending a few games at the new stadium any suggestions on which games to choose?

TROJANS HOME SCHEDULE;

WILMINGTON - WEEK 1 SAT GAME
WARREN
JACKSON
LOGAN - WEEK 9
IRONTON - WEEK 10

[The Instructor]

Minford was given a shot at Portsmouth for 6 straight years from 2000 - 2005, and never came close to a victory. They were forced off the schedule do to joining the SEOAL, recently we have had openings with teams dropping out of the league, but the Falcons decided it was in their best interest to not go down that road again.
Every few years Minford, (and some of the other local teams that have no interest in playing Portsmouth in most years) starts talking about how they are better than PHS, and wished they had them on the schedule, but this only happens when their schools have a strong group coming through.
The fact is that for some reason no local teams with the exception of Burg and West want anything to do with PHS on a year in and year out bases.

You are 100% correct.

My source is 100% in the know when it comes to Portsmouth football.

[Faclons Forever]

I'm not saying we're better, I'm saying I like the matchup. Talk about arrogant Why would a team want to play a bunch of cupcakes and then just get stomped in league play/ playoffs?

[Mikenmike]

You people are so full of yourselves its ridiculous. You ever think that maybe Minford was already in contract with other schools and have no open dates? I am involved in the Minford program and can tell you 100% that is what happen. Instructor your source is 100% wrong sorry........Trojan_FB_Alum im pretty sure we have had this same argument, but how many times do minford fans have to tell you people this is a different program now? During those 6 years that minford and portsmouth did play how many times did minford make the playoffs? 2 is the answer and the second time they didn't deserve it Imo (losing 4 straight games to end the season)...sorry that in 2000 Minford couldn't beat arguably the best team to come out of scioto county ever. Sorry that in the final year they played (they both sucked this year) that minford couldn't beat NW let alone portsmouth. No one is saying that Minford would beat them this year either as portsmouth looks to be dominant and Minford looks to be rebuilding after losing several starters. All that was said was it would be a interesting matchup if they played year in and year out. Then someone has to act like Portsmouth is the 85 bears and Minford is some POS CFL team that doesnt want any part of them. Give me a break in 2 years when Minford's schedule is open again I bet you see portsmouth on the schedule

[Bleeding Red]

You people are so full of yourselves its ridiculous. You ever think that maybe Minford was already in contract with other schools and have no open dates? I am involved in the Minford program and can tell you 100% that is what happen. Instructor your source is 100% wrong sorry........Trojan_FB_Alum im pretty sure we have had this same argument, but how many times do minford fans have to tell you people this is a different program now? During those 6 years that minford and portsmouth did play how many times did minford make the playoffs? 2 is the answer and the second time they didn't deserve it Imo (losing 4 straight games to end the season)...sorry that in 2000 Minford couldn't beat arguably the best team to come out of scioto county ever. Sorry that in the final year they played (they both sucked this year) that minford couldn't beat NW let alone portsmouth. No one is saying that Minford would beat them this year either as portsmouth looks to be dominant and Minford looks to be rebuilding after losing several starters. All that was said was it would be a interesting matchup if they played year in and year out. Then someone has to act like Portsmouth is the 85 bears and Minford is some POS CFL team that doesnt want any part of them. Give me a break in 2 years when Minford's schedule is open again I bet you see portsmouth on the schedule

You are fighting a never ending war. The Portsmouth faithful on her have blinders on that are 4" thick.

Trojan FB Alum- you can talk about 2000-2005 all you want. Since then it is a different coaching staff, different team and different results.

You guys are a bigger school and play in the almighty SEOL. I think the Trojans will be good this year, and have bigger fish to fry than worrying about lowly ole Minford.

Hopefully this year Portsmouth will be playing week 11 and not watching

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

I'm not saying we're better, I'm saying I like the matchup. Talk about arrogant Why would a team want to play a bunch of cupcakes and then just get stomped in league play/ playoffs?

Minford 2010 schedule
South Point – cupcake, I know PHS has played them too.
Wellston- possible decent team, maybe cupcake
Piketon- cupcake
Megis –cupcake
Oak Hill
Burg
West
Northwest – Cupcake but a conference game no way to avoid
Waverly
Valley

Portsmouth’s 2010 schedule
D2 Wilmington
D4 West
D5 Burg
D2 Warren
D3 Chillicothe- down but still loaded with athlete, and now coached by Ron Hinton
D3 Jackson
D2 Marietta - All call them a cupcake at the current time, but they have put many good teams out and it’s a league game we must play
D3 Gallia Academy
D2 Logan
D4 Ironton

Let’s see that makes 1 cupcake for PHS, and 4 maybe 5 for Minford. Where are the phantom cupcakes on the Trojans schedule you speak of?



MikenMike,
I am well aware that Minford has a different coach now, then they had during that stretch, and that their program is different now. However I think you all are confused because you have had 3 straight trips to the post season that have ended in one and done. Minford has had a good run of talent and some cupcake scheduling that have got them 8 win seasons and into the playoffs, but the talent comes in cycles and Minford will dry up, and only have the cupcakes to rely on. High school football is a lot more about the Billys and Joes then it is about Xs and Os.

Bleeding Red,
You are right we are a bigger school but not that much bigger, PHS has 35 more boys then Minford. You again are correct we are in the very tough SEOAL, and it is very challenging week in and week out.
I also agree that the Trojans should have strong team and should have a good chance at the post season. I just hope that if we make it and fail to advance, that we don’t beat our chest about just making it.

[Bleeding Red]

35 more boys is what most smaller schools have on a football team. That is a huge advantage.

And to say that Minford has "cupcakes" after watching Gallia Acadamy last year, that statement is a J-O-K-E

[Faclons Forever]

I stand by my statement. I do not see why a school would schedule a bunch of cupcakes. I am not in charge.
I didn't say anything about you guys scheduling cupcakes; sorry if that's what you got out of it.

[Bleeding Red]

Is everyone forgetting that most of these schedules are made years in advance?

Piketon several years ago had a few really solid teams. So did Meigs and alot of other schools.

Granted some schools may be on the downward spiral the year they hit Minford's schedule. The kids cant help that.

I would also love to see Minford play Portsmouth. Hell I would love to see Portsmouth get in the SOC II. But it probably isnt going to happen.

At the end of the day the KIDS from both schools will play who the AD's put in front of them and nothing more.

To see that Portsmouth fans are still going on about who is better, Ptown or Minford, well I will walk away from that argument stepping tall. Portsmouth has a by far bigger tradition program wise and talent wise over the past 20 years. But Minford has been tremendously improved over the past 5 years and there hasnt been a year since Brent Daniels took over. If Minford and Portsmouth would have played each other over the past 5 years, there would have been some very good ballgames and to say who would have won is purely speculation.

I will be the first to cheer for the local Trojans, but Minford people are getting a little fed up with some people on this board giving us no respect.

Minford over the past 20 years have had some AWFUL teams. I played on one of those awful teams and hated every minute of every loss. They have also had some brilliant teams.

The same can be said of Portsmouth people! In 2008 the Trojans were 1-9 and I think most would agree it would have been a spanking that year.

Bottom line is that there are no Elders, St Iggy's and Colerain's in southern Ohio. Teams have good years and mediocre years all at the same program. Its the way it goes when examining a D4, D5 and D6 team.

[Mikenmike]

TrojanFBalum people like you are why there should be a ignore button on this site. You are right us lil ole minford folk don't want no part of the big bad portsmouth school. Good thing you guys are not in the SOC you would kick all of our a$$ every year (68-14). Best of luck to portsmouth this year I am done responding to your alums ignorant post. Hopefully Minford can beat Northwest this year though since we have run out of talent and coaching has little to do with being good program.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

35 more boys is what most smaller schools have on a football team. That is a huge advantage.

And to say that Minford has "cupcakes" after watching Gallia Acadamy last year, that statement is a J-O-K-E

Divisional break down
D6- 0 to 124
D5 125 to 176 Difference of 51
D4 176 to 251 difference of 75
D3 252 to 347 difference of 95
D2 348 to 517 difference of 169
D1 518 and up

Looks like the OHSAA feels like a D5 schools can compete against schools that have up to 51 boys different than them. Just goes to prove my point that 35 isn’t really that big of a difference.

Gallia Academy was in a down cycle for them last year but their program has a great history of success, and if you look at their schedule their record it becomes obvious that their record is not indicative of the quality of team they were last season.

I stand by my statement. I do not see why a school would schedule a bunch of cupcakes. I am not in charge.
I didn't say anything about you guys scheduling cupcakes; sorry if that's what you got out of it.

I apologize if you were not inferring that PHS scheduled cupcake that is the way I took it being that this is a PHS thread.

Is everyone forgetting that most of these schedules are made years in advance?

Piketon several years ago had a few really solid teams. So did Meigs and alot of other schools.

Granted some schools may be on the downward spiral the year they hit Minford's schedule. The kids cant help that.

I would also love to see Minford play Portsmouth. Hell I would love to see Portsmouth get in the SOC II. But it probably isnt going to happen.

At the end of the day the KIDS from both schools will play who the AD's put in front of them and nothing more.

To see that Portsmouth fans are still going on about who is better, Ptown or Minford, well I will walk away from that argument stepping tall. Portsmouth has a by far bigger tradition program wise and talent wise over the past 20 years. But Minford has been tremendously improved over the past 5 years and there hasnt been a year since Brent Daniels took over. If Minford and Portsmouth would have played each other over the past 5 years, there would have been some very good ballgames and to say who would have won is purely speculation.

I will be the first to cheer for the local Trojans, but Minford people are getting a little fed up with some people on this board giving us no respect.

Minford over the past 20 years have had some AWFUL teams. I played on one of those awful teams and hated every minute of every loss. They have also had some brilliant teams.

The same can be said of Portsmouth people! In 2008 the Trojans were 1-9 and I think most would agree it would have been a spanking that year.

Bottom line is that there are no Elders, St Iggy's and Colerain's in southern Ohio. Teams have good years and mediocre years all at the same program. Its the way it goes when examining a D4, D5 and D6 team.

Schedules are made many years in advance, and that is why it is important to add quality programs that have a history of success, not teams that have a couple good years.
Piketon did have some teams that went to the post season, but then made early exits, and did not beat many quality teams during the season. Megis has had one playoff season in recent memory and they were one and done then as well.
I do agree with you all that Minford has improved, and I wish them all the best. You say you don’t like it that people don’t give Minford any respect. Well to that I would like to say that respect is earned not given. Burg has respect not from winning several SOC titles, but from their post season success, and their success against teams like Ironton and Portsmouth. Portsmouth too gained respect for their ability to play against and compete with larger schools, and the post season success they had. The Trojans have not had as much success in the last few years, and it has knocked us down some on the respect poll, but they are still well regarded, for their willingness to play anyone.
I agree that 2008 would have probably been the Falcons best shot at the Trojans, but to speculate that they would have spanked them is a bit presumptuous. The Falcons did win 8 games that season, however only 2 of those schools were above the .500 mark. If they had played the Trojans schedule they would have won 4 games at most, and I think they may have also lost the close games to Jackson, Gallia Academy, and Warren much as the Trojans did.

TrojanFBalum people like you are why there should be a ignore button on this site. You are right us lil ole minford folk don't want no part of the big bad portsmouth school. Good thing you guys are not in the SOC you would kick all of our a$$ every year (68-14). Best of luck to portsmouth this year I am done responding to your alums ignorant post. Hopefully Minford can beat Northwest this year though since we have run out of talent and coaching has little to do with being good program.

Well Mike I never said we would kick everyone’s a$$ as you so eloquently put it. I stand by the fact that most teams in the area want nothing to do with the Trojans unless they think PHS is down, or if their team is up. The Trojans sure did lose to the Burg 68-14 as all of you like to bring up when it has no bearing on the conversation. The Trojans however also rebounded to have a strong second half of the season, and that one loss is not an indication of how good the Trojans were by the season’s end.
If everyone in the area wants a piece of PHS so bad then you would think they would get a lot more lobbing on their behalf to when they tried to join the SOC. I know that there is more that goes into it then that, but if everyone wants at PHS the way you make it to be you would think they would be trying to find a way to make it work.
The way you guys talk we should be receiving that invite from the SOC any day now, but I won’t be holding my breath.

[sportsfan43]

at first I was thinking he was saying Minford beat Portsmouth 68 to 14..

but then I remembered,Minford has NEVER beat Portsmouth in football

[West Side Pride]

Mikenmike, you are involved in the Minford program? So I guess calling someone a turd is a intelligent, educated
argument on the Minford staff. Namecalling......that's what I'm talking about. Some of the other Minford posters
did have some good points, and made them with respect, but you make the whole system look bad.

[Mikenmike]

If you wouldn't make yourself look like a turd who has zero knowledge of the topic being discussed and make idiotic comments like " I also think that Minford would
dodge Portsmouth and avoid a game. Just my opinion" then I wouldn't have to call you out on it. Im sorry I used the word turd and made the minford program look bad I didn't realize we are suppose to be all hugs and kisses on this site. If you have a problem with someone saying something offensive to you then don't give them a reason to.

[Mikenmike]

Oh and don't bother replying cause i really don't care what you have to say and I am done posting on this thread.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Oh and don't bother replying cause i really don't care what you have to say and I am done posting on this thread.

That means you have bested me, and I have no intelligent way to argue my view point. Thusly I am forced to make a snide remark and refuse to continue in this debate.

[Mikenmike]

If thats what makes you sleep better at night

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

I am done posting on this thread.

If thats what makes you sleep better at night