Where do you think the Cavs will finish this season?

[Rebels on 3]

If Cleveland is lucky enough to get past Boston, then they will lose to Orlando in 6 games or less. Not because Orlando is well rested, because Cleveland just isn't that good. If you think that Cleveland will beat Orlando, LA or Phoenix at this point then you might as well quit watching because you will be disappointed.

Let tigerfan talk at least he has good arguements. Orlando and LA can give the Cavs a good game, not Phoenix . Heres some scores for you. Cavs beat the Suns both times this year, first game 107-90, second game 109-91. The Cavs beat the Lakers both times, first game 102-87, second game 97-87.The Cavs split with Orlando. Cavs won two and Magic won two. Cavs won 115-106, and 102-93. Orlando won 101-95, and 98-92. So it is between Cavs, LA, and Orlando. The Lakers will beat Phoenix in 6 games or less.

[thecoach]

If Cleveland is lucky enough to get past Boston, then they will lose to Orlando in 6 games or less. Not because Orlando is well rested, because Cleveland just isn't that good. If you think that Cleveland will beat Orlando, LA or Phoenix at this point then you might as well quit watching because you will be disappointed.

Let tigerfan talk at least he has good arguements. Orlando and LA can give the Cavs a good game, not Phoenix . Heres some scores for you. Cavs beat the Suns both times this year, first game 107-90, second game 109-91. The Cavs beat the Lakers both times, first game 102-87, second game 97-87.The Cavs split with Orlando. Cavs won two and Magic won two. Cavs won 115-106, and 102-93. Orlando won 101-95, and 98-92. So it is between Cavs, LA, and Orlando. The Lakers will beat Phoenix in 6 games or less.

last time I checked this is the playoffs not the regular season. besides, i'd worry about getting past Boston, who currently has a 114-86 lead in game 5 in Cleveland against your beloved Cavs, before i'd talk about LA, Orlando or Phoenix.

[Rebels on 3]

Playoff or regular season dont matter they are the same teams that they played before.I will be the first to admit the Cavs played like crap last night.The big three were all on, and I dont know why Mike Brown keeps Jamison on KG. He is to tall and shot right over top of him every time.But also dont count them out with 2 games left. Both teams have proved that they can beat each other by 20 or more.

[MM125]

Simple I was once a fan of Lebron until he started becoming a cry baby and everyone started worshipping him building a church for him. The Hype is overbearing and thats all hes been so far. Sure he has 2 MVPs but thats all he does have. I have been a witness to that and 7 seasons of early exits and no rings while he is supposed to be"according to east coast media and his fans" the best player ever. His Antics are unbearable. "im the best and im changing my number and im better then everyone else in the league that wears 23 so they should change #'s to"(not exactly how it went but how most people perceived it.I'm to good to shake your hand after we lose. Its hard being a lakers fan to because when you get on forums you see the idiots that worship L.A. But at least Kobe doesnt consistently display his arrogance and keeps it to himself. But Cleveland hasnt had a good thing going for them in a long time and people act like they are gods when they still havent done anything yet. They act like we celebrate easter and christmas and go to church because of Lebron.

And yes I said something that you could of said if you actually knew anything about basketball besides what you read and hear.

Just_A_Fan- Good question but it would be hard seeing him in green. Maybe because he might bring in a ring because boston knows how to win but you take out ray you lose the philosophy of the big 3. Lose Pierce and it might Work. Just as good as any other possibility other than a New York destination. Is there talk of Boston trying to get Bosh?

Kobe is the most arrogant player of all time and he shows it all the time and he cries all the time and he doesnt take any responsibility when they lose he makes excuses why they lost and that it wasn't his fault, not the fact that the team was a better team.

[JChipwood]

^^ Earlier in his career moreso than now but still a good post. He was the worst at quitting on a play to complain about non-calls especially in transition to the defensive end. At lease when Lebron complains he still gets back down most of the time and often makes a block or steal at the other end. To Kobe's credit, since he played for the national team, he seems to have learned the importance of sharing the ball and playing more than just when he has the ball in his hands.


Cavs are in trouble and hopefully so is Mike Brown, mistake from the beginning. Gotta have some player movement and less watching Lebron and forcing him to create everything for the entire team. He may leave for that reason alone because his bball IQ is high enough to see that he is in position to shorten his career for the gain of Brown and teams don't win like that anymore....... NO more MJs running the floor, not even close!

[thecoach]

Kobe is the most arrogant player of all time and he shows it all the time and he cries all the time and he doesnt take any responsibility when they lose he makes excuses why they lost and that it wasn't his fault, not the fact that the team was a better team.

this is coming from a fan of a guy who refused to shake hands with the Magic last season when his team lost. yeah Kobe is so arrogant compared to LBJ.

you want to know the difference between Kobe and Lebron. Kobe knows when to take over the game. he knows when his teammates aren't playing well and he needs to score 40 points. he also knows that if Gasol, Bynum, Odom etc are doing great, he doesn't have to take over the game, he can let his teammates carry the load. and why shouldn't he pass the blame on to his teammates if they aren't playing well. Gasol, Odom, Artest and Bynum are all great players. if they aren't doing what they should be doing, i'd be mad too.

Lebron on the other hand goes for a triple double every night. take last night for example, Lebron wasn't hitting his shots so what did he do, he keep shooting instead of giving it to his teammates.

and don't give me this 'Lebron has no help' crap. Jamison and Moe Williams were all-star caliber players on their previous teams. Shaq may be getting older but he can still contribute defensively and in rebounding. so why did they instantly become awful players? there has to be a reason.

[MM125]

Kobe is the most arrogant player of all time and he shows it all the time and he cries all the time and he doesnt take any responsibility when they lose he makes excuses why they lost and that it wasn't his fault, not the fact that the team was a better team.

this is coming from a fan of a guy who refused to shake hands with the Magic last season when his team lost. yeah Kobe is so arrogant compared to LBJ.

you want to know the difference between Kobe and Lebron. Kobe knows when to take over the game. he knows when his teammates aren't playing well and he needs to score 40 points. he also knows that if Gasol, Bynum, Odom etc are doing great, he doesn't have to take over the game, he can let his teammates carry the load. and why shouldn't he pass the blame on to his teammates if they aren't playing well. Gasol, Odom, Artest and Bynum are all great players. if they aren't doing what they should be doing, i'd be mad too.

Lebron on the other hand goes for a triple double every night. take last night for example, Lebron wasn't hitting his shots so what did he do, he keep shooting instead of giving it to his teammates.

and don't give me this 'Lebron has no help' crap. Jamison and Moe Williams were all-star caliber players on their previous teams. Shaq may be getting older but he can still contribute defensively and in rebounding. so why did they instantly become awful players? there has to be a reason.

We are going to bring this up, hmm.. let's see a couple years back Kobe wasn't getting anything on Raja Bell so instead of stepping his game up he decides to elbow him in the face, yes that's a definitely respectful player isn't and Kobe has now just realized to give it to his team until 2008-09 it was all about Kobe and nobody else I would rather have LBJ on my team how many cases have you heard of LBJ arguing with his teammates and how many arguements have you heard with Kobe and his teammates when LBJ gets mad he doesn't go to the press and diss his coach does he I think Kobe might and did.

Yeah LeBron wasn't hitting anything last night and he does has help I never has said he didn't in fact if you have them playing right they can beat any team, record shows it in the regular season. The problem is within the coaching staff not within the players. Brown doesn't have them playing as good as they could he has them playing like a highschool football team with all-star athletes that don't do crap during practice and don't want to learn they just want to get on the field Friday and hoping they get a terrible team so they don't have to work hard yeah you can knock off weak and average teams but when you face teams that have athletes like you and they play fundamental ball this is what happens. Whats sad is LeBron had 15 points, 6 rebounds, and 7 assists, worst game of his career is better stats than what Kobe was averaging his first 3 years. As of Kobe taking a game over it's always him taking a game over not his team taking over cause when it's time to make a big play and get noticed it's all about Kobe not his team not his coach not his fans and not the NBA but him Kobe only cares about the attention and money, what was Kobe doing in OK city looked like some weak peformances to me to what he should be doing to an 8th seed but lets not him but we can bash bash LeBron for having his first bad game against a team that has talent and has championship caliber when healthy.

[dazed&confused]

Can't stay out of this one. The series so far just goes to show that a great team beats a great player every time. Lebron could go off in game six and extend the series back to Cleveland where anything can happen in a game seven. But it just doesn't have that feel. He can't be super human for 96 minutes. I'm lovin my Celtics moving on to meet the Magic. They haven't been challenged yet in the post season but I like the Celtics chances now that they are healthy and meshing as a team.

[FANOSPORTS]

Mike Brown is a terrible coach. All he does is watch the scoreboard and move around like he's clueless and lost. He doesn't even appear to know what's happening half the time during timeouts while his assistants are running the strategy sessions. Everyone said the Celtics were too old during the first three games (commentators, news media etc.) and now they've changed their tune a little after these last two games. The Cavaliers may still win the series but they will not win a championship this year. Let's see, The drive - The catch - The fumble and next: "The Choke".

Question: Why do pro teams not shake hands anymore after games ? Are they so arrogant in today's pro game to even do that ? I haven't watched regular season games for years and It's getting to the point that I think I might just wait until the Finals before I tune in from now on. These guys today make a mockery of the "pro game" I
grew up watching. They are Overpaid and Overhyped IMO but as long as fans and big money people go to the games and pay their salaries, more power to them. Only in America !!!!!

[3morethan2]

fanofsports i think the teams shake hands once the series is over since once the series is over they are for sure done playing....i seen the lakers and jazz shake hands after the lakers swept them. that was the worst game i have ever seen lebron play regular season or playoffs idk what is wrong with him but i can see him leaving cleveland and bolting for the big apple. think of a starting lineup if he went there....tony parker(seen the knicks might get him) lebron,chris bosh,joe johnson if he accepts less money,david lee if he takes a pay cut now thats a better starting five then the one he has at cleveland

[thecoach]

We are going to bring this up, hmm.. let's see a couple years back Kobe wasn't getting anything on Raja Bell so instead of stepping his game up he decides to elbow him in the face, yes that's a definitely respectful player isn't and Kobe has now just realized to give it to his team until 2008-09 it was all about Kobe and nobody else I would rather have LBJ on my team how many cases have you heard of LBJ arguing with his teammates and how many arguements have you heard with Kobe and his teammates when LBJ gets mad he doesn't go to the press and diss his coach does he I think Kobe might and did.

Yeah LeBron wasn't hitting anything last night and he does has help I never has said he didn't in fact if you have them playing right they can beat any team, record shows it in the regular season. The problem is within the coaching staff not within the players. Brown doesn't have them playing as good as they could he has them playing like a highschool football team with all-star athletes that don't do crap during practice and don't want to learn they just want to get on the field Friday and hoping they get a terrible team so they don't have to work hard yeah you can knock off weak and average teams but when you face teams that have athletes like you and they play fundamental ball this is what happens. Whats sad is LeBron had 15 points, 6 rebounds, and 7 assists, worst game of his career is better stats than what Kobe was averaging his first 3 years. As of Kobe taking a game over it's always him taking a game over not his team taking over cause when it's time to make a big play and get noticed it's all about Kobe not his team not his coach not his fans and not the NBA but him Kobe only cares about the attention and money, what was Kobe doing in OK city looked like some weak peformances to me to what he should be doing to an 8th seed but lets not him but we can bash bash LeBron for having his first bad game against a team that has talent and has championship caliber when healthy.

i never said Kobe wasn't arrogant. He is one of the best to ever play the game of basketball of course he is going to be arrogant.

if i'm not mistaken, the Raja Bell incident you are talking about happened when LA was awful. The starting 5 was Smush Parker, Kobe, Luke Walton, Lamar Odom and Kwame Brown. Kobe had to carry that team the whole time so of course he would be PO'ed all the time.

but yeah, Mike Brown is one of the worst coaches in the NBA. He doesn't do anything. Has there ever been a coach to win the NBA Coach of the Year award one season and the next possibly getting fired

[MM125]

We are going to bring this up, hmm.. let's see a couple years back Kobe wasn't getting anything on Raja Bell so instead of stepping his game up he decides to elbow him in the face, yes that's a definitely respectful player isn't and Kobe has now just realized to give it to his team until 2008-09 it was all about Kobe and nobody else I would rather have LBJ on my team how many cases have you heard of LBJ arguing with his teammates and how many arguements have you heard with Kobe and his teammates when LBJ gets mad he doesn't go to the press and diss his coach does he I think Kobe might and did.

Yeah LeBron wasn't hitting anything last night and he does has help I never has said he didn't in fact if you have them playing right they can beat any team, record shows it in the regular season. The problem is within the coaching staff not within the players. Brown doesn't have them playing as good as they could he has them playing like a highschool football team with all-star athletes that don't do crap during practice and don't want to learn they just want to get on the field Friday and hoping they get a terrible team so they don't have to work hard yeah you can knock off weak and average teams but when you face teams that have athletes like you and they play fundamental ball this is what happens. Whats sad is LeBron had 15 points, 6 rebounds, and 7 assists, worst game of his career is better stats than what Kobe was averaging his first 3 years. As of Kobe taking a game over it's always him taking a game over not his team taking over cause when it's time to make a big play and get noticed it's all about Kobe not his team not his coach not his fans and not the NBA but him Kobe only cares about the attention and money, what was Kobe doing in OK city looked like some weak peformances to me to what he should be doing to an 8th seed but lets not him but we can bash bash LeBron for having his first bad game against a team that has talent and has championship caliber when healthy.

i never said Kobe wasn't arrogant. He is one of the best to ever play the game of basketball of course he is going to be arrogant.

if i'm not mistaken, the Raja Bell incident you are talking about happened when LA was awful. The starting 5 was Smush Parker, Kobe, Luke Walton, Lamar Odom and Kwame Brown. Kobe had to carry that team the whole time so of course he would be PO'ed all the time.

but yeah, Mike Brown is one of the worst coaches in the NBA. He doesn't do anything. Has there ever been a coach to win the NBA Coach of the Year award one season and the next possibly getting fired

I'm not taking away from what Kobe has did, is doing and will do in the future I was just trying to make my point

Yeah we all can agree Mike Brown sucks, no wonder there has been rumors of LeBron supposebly wanting out, if Mike Brown was my coach i'd sure as heck want out too.

[MM125]

But I do have to say I like those Randy Jackson glasses he is rocking

[Orange and Brown]

Lebron James needs to play somewhere else! He will get no help in cleveland!!! Chicago would be a great home for him!!!

[BBallin fool]

Cleveland fans !!! Well thats the way the story ends!!! You lost again.

[thecoach]

Let the rumors begin.

Personally I think he's leaving and I think he'll go to either Chicago or New York. Hopefully NY because I hate the Bulls worse than I do Cleveland. I was a Karl Malone, John Stockton fan back in the day.

[tubby]

I think he's gone too. And I'm glad cause all these Cavalier bandwagon jumpers are getting on my nerves.

Now were gonna have to listen for 2 months about people speculating where is he gonna go.

[BBallin fool]

IMO !!!He wants out.

[farmer]

This group of players do not play with team emotion on the floor except when they are playing around.
LeBron is much like A Rod for the Yankees who has all the talent during the season but comes up short during the playoffs.
Lebron has let this thing go to long if he is staying or going. If he goes elsewhere he will not be able to sale his mansion for anywhere close to what he has in it. LeBron has great skills but can not take over games when he wants to consistently. He needs to have the role players making contributions and a player like Scottie Pippen that Michael Jordan had to help. To much now is put on getting the max contract as being the reward and not winning. Being a great player or being on a team with players playing together as a team.
Being this late in the season many of their passes were not even close. Some of the blame can be placed on the coach but playing without emotion and desire on the court is on the players. The Cavs are a great team when they are winning but if a tight game or coming from behind they do not have that winning attitude to help pull games out.

[Orange and Brown]

This group of players do not play with team emotion on the floor except when they are playing around.
LeBron is much like A Rod for the Yankees who has all the talent during the season but comes up short during the playoffs.
Lebron has let this thing go to long if he is staying or going. If he goes elsewhere he will not be able to sale his mansion for anywhere close to what he has in it. LeBron has great skills but can not take over games when he wants to consistently. He needs to have the role players making contributions and a player like Scottie Pippen that Michael Jordan had to help. To much now is put on getting the max contract as being the reward and not winning. Being a great player or being on a team with players playing together as a team.
Being this late in the season many of their passes were not even close. Some of the blame can be placed on the coach but playing without emotion and desire on the court is on the players. The Cavs are a great team when they are winning but if a tight game or coming from behind they do not have that winning attitude to help pull games out.

He will keep his home. Don't forget he has a lot of money wrapped up in the Cleveland Akron area. He is a smart business person.