Your school is now independent so create their schedule

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well we are an independent .. and have been..

Here is my ulitmate schedule for

Jonathan Alder IV

Coldwater D5 quality MAC
Marysville D1 County Rival A D1 team also
Licking Valley D3 Allways a good game
West Jefferson D5 County Rival ..
London D4 County Rival
Westfall D4
Washington Court House D3
Urbana D4 This should get scheduled again.. we use to play them in the 70's..
St. Charles D2 Quailty Private School
Clinton Massie D4 Playoff Rival..

this would be playing a up/down schedule... any given year a 8-2.... 7 - 3 team would run to playoffs
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NY BUCKS wrote:Almost everybody has NY on your shedule.HMMMM.
Logan
New lex
Gallia
Jackson
Ncatholic
burgh
ironton
sheridan
west jeff
westfall

Come on man!!!!! Seriously?????


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^^ 4 wins would be a great season with that schedule. But at least 5 sure losses every year if the team stays healthy and by losses I mean physical beat downs and huge point differentials


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JChipwood wrote:^^ 4 wins would be a great season with that schedule. But at least 5 sure losses every year if the team stays healthy and by losses I mean physical beat downs and huge point differentials
True, but it would still be pretty cool if the kids could play some teams like these. Winning the TVC has become expected at Nelsonville when other schools are happy to get 2 or 3 wins in it. It would be great to go into a schedule like this and get 5 wins, it would mean alot to the players. I like it when Coach Boston plays a team that most say the bucks couldnt beat like Ironton, St. Clairesville, Bishop Ready ect. Logan and Nelsonville play week 5 i believe next year. Even if Logan does blow them out it will still be a good game, alot of people will be surprised though i think.


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Yeah, I am not one for programs backing down from competition. I like your attitude toward that schedule but be careful what you wish for......you have a really good program and losing breeds losing and (I may get stoned for saying this) you don't want to end up like Athens did do you? I mean no disrespect but the last years they were in the SEOAL they had REALLY low numbers and even fewer fans in attendance at home games. Program killers! Schedule competitive teams but keep a good balance of winnable games also. Now I am one for eliminating the gimmies GAHS vs Meigs and GAHS vs Pt and GAHS vs CG and so on but keep a few games that year in year out you would at least split 50/50.


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Nelsonville-York {based on current and former league rivals]
Logan
Jackson
Gallia Academy
Warren
Trimble
Wellston
Meigs
Vinton County
Alexander
Athens

Nelsonville-York [based on geography]
Trimble
Athens
Alexander
Federal Hocking
Logan
Miller
Vinton County
Berne Union
Fairfield Union
New Lexington

Nelsonville-York [based on similar D5 R19 programs]
Oak Hill
Wheelersburg
Minford
Coal Grove
Valley
Berne Union
Caldwell
Crooksville
Federal Hocking
Belpre


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Coal Grove

Wk 1 Symmes Valley
Wk 2 Wheelersburg
Wk 3 Minford
Wk 4 Cabell Midland
Wk 5 Chesapeake
Wk 6 Ironton
Wk 7 Fairland
Wk 8 South Point
Wk 9 Ashland, Ky
Wk 10 Rock Hill


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fuzzhead wrote:Coal Grove (no particular order):

Nelsonville York
Valley
Minford
Rock Hill
South Point
Chesapeake
Gallipolis
Oak Hill
Symmes Valley
Fairland

Fuzz,

I think that that would be a great schedule for those Hornets. I remember when Coal Grove use to play Gallipolis and Nelsonville-York. Wasn't the series between Gallia Academy and Coal Grove pretty competetive?


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[quote="CavsFan08"]NY Bucks A state title in 1983 does not make your case.Please don't tell me that is where you are going with this?[/quotte Before we go any farther it was 1981 not 83 .header said who would you schedule.Didnt say who you would beat..Big diffrence ...Before you can get better you have to play up ..with that schedule is playing up.If ny would win 5 of those games do you think the be battle tested.NY gets blasted for trying to get better by you and everybody on seops for trying to take the next step.Dammed if you do dammed if you dont.


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Mine for Chillicothe would be this...

week 1: D3 Waverly (week 1 tune up, natural geographic rivalry)
week 2: D2 Jackson (good geographic rivalry)
week 3: D2 Beechcroft (playing athletes never hurts and they always rack up wins in the city league) or D1 Columbus West
week 4: D3 Circleville (again, could be a decent local rival and here lately it would be a pretty easy win. They do have decent tradition though)
week 5: D2 Logan (These teams have played some GREAT games the last 7 or 8 years and it works out points wise for both schools)
week 6: D2 Dublin Scioto (or D1 Grove City, D1 Upper Arlington, or one of the D1-2 Olentangy or D1 Westerville teams) (tough test. Probably a loss most years but big points if we do it.)
week 7: D1 Parkersburg South WV(or another big school from WV or Kent.) (Big school from WV. They rack up wins in weak WV and it would be a fairly easy win usually with big L2 points)
week 8: D4 Portsmouth (this game is untouchable. Under no circumstances does Chilli ever not play Portsmouth)
week 9: D3 Logan elm (good rivalry in Bball the last few years and geographic fit)
Week 10: D4 Unioto (A bye week before the playoffs would be nice. The two schools are seperated by less than 2 miles. It would be fun to watch)


Obviously some of those schools would be hard to schedule for various reasons. Logistics would prevent some and some would simply be unwilling to schedule us. I doubt we will ever get another big OCC school such as GC, UA, or scioto to schedule us again unless Hinton takes us to a level of consistency similar to that of Logan of the last 10 years and even then it would be harder for us because we are smaller and therefore offer less points for those schools. I feel that a matchup with Unioto would not happen either because a) they would most likely never compete b) Chillicothe would have everything to lose and nothing to gain by playing Unioto. Historically, Chilli has always been the "big dog" in Ross County and has never played any SVC school. The risk of losing to a team like Unioto, while small, would be an embarassment. Logistics and to a smaller degree, the same feelings about Waverly could derail that game as well. Again, Chilli has historically been way bigger and better than Waverly and those feeling could be tough to overcome on either side to schedule the game.
I in no way am intending to offend anyone at Waverly or Unioto. I am simply stating what has been true historically in terms of the schools comparing to each other and I do know that Chilli is shrinking and is no longer automatically better than everyone else in the area.

As a result, my list of backup schools for whatever schools don't work out on that schedule are:
D4 Ironton
D2 Athens
D2 St. Charles
D3 Gallia Academy
D2 Big Walnut


This schedule is made in respects to making the playoffs, staying relatively healthy, and having some good geographic rivalries. Also, this is assuming the program in in decent shape(not as in the past 2 years with the down talent level). Assuming an average talent level for us, I feel this would be a tough but managable schedule most years that would allow us some easier weeks but also get us plenty of points and prepare us for the playoffs.


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Wheelersburg in no particular order

1,2,and 3 would be Ironton, Portsmouth, Waverly.
4. West
5 Minford
6. Columbus Ready
7. Would love to see a home and home vs a Mac team
8. Cabell Midland, Spring Valley, or Ashland Ky
9. Lucasville Valley
10. Amanda CC or Chilli


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siderman wrote:
West_Sider wrote:
siderman wrote:Most of these schedules look like suicide. You need a couple get well games on your schedule no matter who you are, even on up years. Not to mention a couple down classes could almost kill your program.

The upside though, you probably get into the playoffs at 5-5 and are battle tested ;-)
True, but I'm not sure it's battle tested or beat to death. :122245

A few schools that West isn't playing that I would like to see are Ironton, Gallia Academy, and Russell Ky.

Ironton hasn't made the playoffs all those years for nothing. Their good, but their also schedule smart. They don't just play ashland and russell for the big gate. The way out of state points are calculated is bull pucky. Get a win over a big-mediocre out of state school like Greenup county and you get big school secondary points for every win they get whether it's ashland or Lewis County. To me, that is the biggest flaw in the Harbin Points system beside the needed multiplier for private schools.
So why isnt West playing Itown? never knew why they quit after that home and home a few years ago? Ironton plays the KY teams because west and a few others here in ohio wont play them! FACT. Gotta admit, when Burg wins, they get great playoff points. And Burg alway gives the tigers great points for the playoffs. And Burg still makes the playoffs. West has no reason for NOT playing them. Same region, same enrollment. Nuff said.


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[quote="demaniac1]
So why isnt West playing Itown? never knew why they quit after that home and home a few years ago? Ironton plays the KY teams because west and a few others here in ohio wont play them! FACT. Gotta admit, when Burg wins, they get great playoff points. And Burg alway gives the tigers great points for the playoffs. And Burg still makes the playoffs. West has no reason for NOT playing them. Same region, same enrollment. Nuff said.[/quote]

I don't know. Why don't you ask the AD?

Last time West played Ironton was week 7 of 2005. They played them in the middle of the SOC schedule. Next year Valley joined the league and Ironton I believed joined the SEOAL. Maybe its a scheduling conflict? I don't know. By the way, we played them very tough also. We were without a doubt one of the 8 best teams in the region that year and we sat home week 11 because we played a tough schedule. Ironton lost in the great Region 15 final with Bellaire.

The way the Coach left Ironton, it may be better for a little time to pass before we play. I don't know. Unless we see them in a couple weeks. :122245

Burg is good and they play Ironton tough. But the fact is they rarely win and they have the best week in the year to play Ironton. Year after year, you know exactly what Ironton is going to do, they've only been doing the same thing for 30 plus years. Wheelersburg changes from year to year. That is a big advantage for Wheelersburg. They want no part of Ironton later in the year.


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COAL GROVE
FAIRVIEW
RUSSELL
OAK HILL
CHESAPEAK
BOYD COUNTY
SOUTHPOINT
FAIRLAND
THE BURG
VALLEY
ROCK HILL


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TigerMack wrote:
fuzzhead wrote:Coal Grove (no particular order):

Nelsonville York
Valley
Minford
Rock Hill
South Point
Chesapeake
Gallipolis
Oak Hill
Symmes Valley
Fairland

Fuzz,

I think that that would be a great schedule for those Hornets. I remember when Coal Grove use to play Gallipolis and Nelsonville-York. Wasn't the series between Gallia Academy and Coal Grove pretty competetive?
GA leads the all-time series 23-19-0. Average score is GA 19, CG 17! They played every year from 1964 to 2002! Why not resurrect this series?


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fuzzhead wrote:
TigerMack wrote:
fuzzhead wrote:Coal Grove (no particular order):

Nelsonville York
Valley
Minford
Rock Hill
South Point
Chesapeake
Gallipolis
Oak Hill
Symmes Valley
Fairland

Fuzz,

I think that that would be a great schedule for those Hornets. I remember when Coal Grove use to play Gallipolis and Nelsonville-York. Wasn't the series between Gallia Academy and Coal Grove pretty competetive?
GA leads the all-time series 23-19-0. Average score is GA 19, CG 17! They played every year from 1964 to 2002! Why not resurrect this series?

The series ended in 03, and GA leads the series 24-19-0.

This series should remain dead. Coal Grove is not the team they were in the 90's. They use to be on par with teams like West, Valley, and Minford. Now they can't even stay on the field with them. If Coal Grove/Gallia Academy would have played this year the score would have looked similar to the Valley/Coal Grove score, and it would have looked that way most of the last decade. No need to resurrect a pointless game between a d3 and d5 school.


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Danny Boy, I don't know where to begin with you. Wow. Do you really think Gallipolis was THAT much better than CG this year? Gallia was exposed badly this year at Ironton. CG and Gallia both played Athens about the same. CG was WAY down when they went on the skid against Gallia in the early 2000s. Now they are getting close to where they were. CG could have beaten GA several times during the last decade, definitely in 08 and 09. As for the other teams you mentioned, CG beat Valley in 08 and 09 and has never lost to Minford by more than 2 TDs. They also lead the all-time series against West and probably would have beaten them last year. Get a clue. The winner of the game would get good points from the loser most years if this one were to start back up.


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First, Coal Grove is not Ironton. Let's not go there considering what Valley did to Coal Grove.

Second, I'll give you 08 and 09, but at the same time who didn't beat Gallia those years? 99-07 Gallia wins easily. 2010 Gallia wins easily.

Third, let's not compare scores. Athens is a rivalry game for Gallia, and they played week one. Jackson was beaten soundly by Wellston, and Gallia was up 41 to 7 on them before the jvs took over. Jackson beat Ironton in ot, and Gallia was destroyed by them. Scores mean nothing.

Last, Coal Grove is no where near the team they were in the 90's JMHO. Like I said d3 vs d5 is pointless unless it's a rivalry game, or a team like Wheelersburg that is always good. I don't think anyone from either side is crying about this game not being played anymore.


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Yeah, actually quite a few people Ive talked to would like to see it played again. But I guess when you have the attitude that you're better than another team just because you have a bigger school, there's not much anyone can do to convince you otherwise. The high horse attitude is really unnecessary and unwarranted given GAs not-so-great football history.


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demaniac1 wrote:Wheelersburg in no particular order

1,2,and 3 would be Ironton, Portsmouth, Waverly.
4. West
5 Minford
6. Columbus Ready
7. Would love to see a home and home vs a Mac team
8. Cabell Midland, Spring Valley, or Ashland Ky
9. Lucasville Valley
10. Amanda CC or Chilli
Interesting schedule. Here is mine for burg. Also in no particular order

Ironton
Portsmouth
Ports West, Newark Catholic
Wayne WV, Spring Valley, Cabell Midland
Paul Blazer, Johnson Central
Raceland
Russell
Amanda CC, Cincy Reading
Nelsonville York
Versailes, Marion Local Maria Stein

I can come up with more


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