D3 R12 #5 Jackson (9-1) @ #4 Eaton (10-0)

[Ironmannut07]

Man this week is dragging

[TigerTownKid]

Good Luck Ironmen! Represent!

[ironmen85]

Is irontons game friday if so i might go watch that too how awesome would it be for seo to clean sweep this weekend going to be one of the longest week ever just waiting

[Yodiak2]

I've seen Eaton's film against Monroe and i seen a lot of things that made me feel better about this game going in and a lot of things that make me worry a little.
Eaton didn't look very physical against Monroe, then again it was a 42-7 Blowout. Eaton's defense looked pretty good however, no disrespect to Eaton, but Monroe looked like they had never blocked before. There were a lot of plays where Monroe didn't communicate up front and Eaton's Defensive Line were simply unblocked and they made plays in the backfield. Go Ironmen!

X-Factor,

I probably agree with you on this game at Monore... We were not that physical. On offense, you might consider us a finesse team because we do spread things out and pass. But we do run as often as we pass. On defense, I am not sure this was one of our more physical games either, but it did not need to be. The only time Monroe got inside our 30 yard line was because Eaton fumbled on the 9 and that is why they even scored. I do remember at the end of this game, Monroe basically quit. They simply just wanted the game to end. I did not have a chance to watch the film on Monroe vs Eaton so I don't know how the blocking was against Eaton's d-line, but maybe Eaton's d-linemen were quicker than Monroe and that is why they looked unblocked ? I am not saying this is the case but Monroe won 6 games this year, so they must of done somethings right vs other teams....

[footballfanatic1]

IS IT SATURDAY YET?????????? :aaaaa26 :aaaaa26 :aaaaa26 :aaaaa26

[SWBL]

For the most part, we are very respectful of everyone's opinion. Like I have stated before, I am enjoying the conversation on this site. Viewing film is just that...veiwing film. I, like anyone else, can break down film and see exactly what I want to see. All teams play to their competition no matter what part of the state they play. For example, I have looked at the Chillicothe game where Jackson scratched out a victory. A win is a win. There is no way anyone can convince me that Jackson didn't play to their competition that night. No, I am not knocking on Chilicothe. They are a team like we see in our league year in and year out. They played their hearts out and came up short. One point short.
As far as being physical, the boys will be there to play as I am sure Jackson will too. I will like to hear your opinions, win or lose, on the physicalness (is that a word) of the game. I think you will not be diappointed in what Eaton brings to the table. Good luck.

Go Eagles

The Winchester boy, any colleges looking at him? Just curious as to the thoughts of playing with an injury and his future.

[footballfanatic1]

swbl....some time we forget the its a game played by young men....good luck to your team.... but more luck to the ironmen.....play hard stay injury free.....

[Yodiak2]

Just some info on the final rankings:

JJ huddle power rankings for DIII:
http://www.jjhuddle.com/news/articles/2 ... on-as-no-1

AP State poll final rankings:
http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ft/boys/2010/poll10.htm


Miami Valley Sports Magazine rankings:
http://www.miamivalleysports.com/index. ... ns-crowned

Drew Pasteur's State Championship odds:
http://www.jjhuddle.com/news/articles/2 ... is-favored

2010 CalPreps ohio DIII rankings:
http://calpreps.com/2010/ratings/Ohio_division.htm#III

[wutang85]

Disregarding the egotistical people on both sites, i believe its going to be a wonderful atmosphere in Eaton on Saturday night, the field will not be an issue by the time game time rolls around. As for the game itself i honestly believe either team can win this. If Jackson establishes a run game and prevent the big play it seems it could be a long day for Eaton because i really don't think they have seen an O-Line like the Ironmen and a back that can run you over then outrun you for 40 yrds like Klay Arthur. On the other hand if Eaton establishes a pass game to go along with effective ground game and exploit some weaknesses in the D, Jackson will have a long ride home. Either way Good Luck to both teams.

[Yodiak2]

Disregarding the egotistical people on both sites, i believe its going to be a wonderful atmosphere in Eaton on Saturday night, the field will not be an issue by the time game time rolls around. As for the game itself i honestly believe either team can win this. If Jackson establishes a run game and prevent the big play it seems it could be a long day for Eaton because i really don't think they have seen an O-Line like the Ironmen and a back that can run you over then outrun you for 40 yrds like Klay Arthur. On the other hand if Eaton establishes a pass game to go along with effective ground game and exploit some weaknesses in the D, Jackson will have a long ride home. Either way Good Luck to both teams.

I agree, it will be a great game between 2 great teams..

[SWBL]

I think that the biggest thing about this game Sat. is the fact that other than a couple of big games this season neither team has really been challenged. Yes, I know of the Ironton game, and that was impressive to say the least. I know that St. Henry is not up to their normal standards this year, but that was a huge confidence game very early in Eaton's season. It may be hard to believe, but they are/were better than their record. This coming Sat. these teams will truly know where they stand. Both teams are Senior led with the desire to keep their season going. Questions that will be answered are: Can Eaton hold up to a solid running game? Can Jackson deal with the balanced passing/run game of Eaton? Will Eaton be able to handle the size of Jackson's OL? Can Jackson cover all of Eaton's receivers and back out of the backfield? These questions will be answered soon enough, but the fact of the matter is that whoever wins, this game will prepare either team for the next round. Sp. Shawnee is a power run team too. Maybe not the caliber of Jackson but a run team just the same. If WCH wins-doubtful-they mix it up a little like Eaton. I honestly feel that Eaton will be the best DL and quickest OL with excellent skills that Jackson has faced so far this year. With that being said, Eaton has yet to face an OL like Jackson's. This will be the yardstick that measures the whole 2010 season.

[X-Factor5]

I've seen Eaton's film against Monroe and i seen a lot of things that made me feel better about this game going in and a lot of things that make me worry a little.
Eaton didn't look very physical against Monroe, then again it was a 42-7 Blowout. Eaton's defense looked pretty good however, no disrespect to Eaton, but Monroe looked like they had never blocked before. There were a lot of plays where Monroe didn't communicate up front and Eaton's Defensive Line were simply unblocked and they made plays in the backfield. Go Ironmen!

X-Factor,

I probably agree with you on this game at Monore... We were not that physical. On offense, you might consider us a finesse team because we do spread things out and pass. But we do run as often as we pass. On defense, I am not sure this was one of our more physical games either, but it did not need to be. The only time Monroe got inside our 30 yard line was because Eaton fumbled on the 9 and that is why they even scored. I do remember at the end of this game, Monroe basically quit. They simply just wanted the game to end. I did not have a chance to watch the film on Monroe vs Eaton so I don't know how the blocking was against Eaton's d-line, but maybe Eaton's d-linemen were quicker than Monroe and that is why they looked unblocked ? I am not saying this is the case but Monroe won 6 games this year, so they must of done somethings right vs other teams....

As i said Yodiak, it was a 42-7 blowout. I didn't feel like they needed to be too physical with Monroe either. Also, like i previously said, i had only seen one film on Eaton and those were just a few assumptions based off of that. I seen the Franklin film today and Eaton appeared to be an entirely different team playing at home. In this game they were much more physical. I've noticed their run/pass ratio changed between those to games. As it probably does week to week.I wonder what they're going to have in store for the Ironmen. And I'm not taking anything from Eaton's D-Line, it's the best we've seen all season, bar none. I'm just pointing out the fact that there were simply times when Eaton defensive linemen were unblocked because of obvious miscommunication. One play that stands out to me, the defender was so shocked that he was untouched that he stutter-stepped (i believe he was anticipating screen). Now, i have absolutely no knowledge of Monroe, aside from this game, but having won 6 games. They must not have played like this. I do agree with you on the end of the game, Monroe seemed to be hanging their heads prematurely. Again, please understand that i'm not disrespecting, degrading or anything of that nature. I've never done that to any player or any team and I'm not going to start now. This is just what i seen.

Both teams are obviously great teams to be on of the 172 schools in Ohio out of the 720 that move on to play a week 11. And I think there are a lot of things that are going to make this a great football game. I can not wait for Saturday night.

Ironmannut07, you know I'm going to be there!

[X-Factor5]

SWBL... i don't understand what films you are not impressed with. Could you enlighten me on what films you have seen?

And as of Winchester, there are a few schools looking to recruit him. NCAA Division II Ashland is one that jumps out at me. I'm not sure what his interests are at the moment, but the oppurtunities are there.

[Pavilion]

It is kind of strange that the record of the opponents of these two teams is 38-62 and 39-61. Can't get much closer than that!

For those of you from Eaton who want to look at Alumni stadium you can go to the district website and click on JHS and then click on athletics and you can see a picture of it. The website is http://www.jcs.k12.oh.us.

[Ironman92]

No one knows. The team that plays closest to how they always play and execute....and maybe throw in a special play of two will win.

Very few Jackson playoff games have gone as expected.

Jackson vs Hillsboro...2 highest scoring teams anywhere averaging 40 pts per game...EACH.....final score 7-3

Jackson vs Gallipolis......Gallipolis destroyed us @ Jackson...no one expected that

Jackson vs Youngstown East......they had 1 player and we were going to beat them...had maybe 100 fans and 11 kids in their band....wee had 5,000 fans and aband that performed the script OHIO....couldn't tackle in 4th qtr and got beat on a rumbling TD with about 20 seconds left after leaading all game

Jackson vs DeSales....no chance vs the big boys.....all-state lineman out....Jackson was leading midway through the 3rd and held tight till deep into the 4th

Jackson vs Cincy Withrow...not a chance in the world to travel to inner city Cincy and knock off the top team in D2 .....with superstar Dante Love at QB (one of the top receivers in the NCAA until horrible injury that kept him from receiving the ball on Sundays)....sorry, but we won

Jackson vs Glen Este...we just beat Withrow.....load with talent we will take it to Glen Este....quite the oppsite happened

Jackson vs Waverly.....they already beat us pretty good during the season.....and we are missing a top player.......not much shot @ Waverly....but they needed some good fortune and OT to beat us.

IMO only Mt Healthy (win), Portsmouth (loss) and Kings Mills (loss) went as pretty much predicted.

Play very well and move on Ironmen!

[swbl5252]

I've seen Eaton's film against Monroe and i seen a lot of things that made me feel better about this game going in and a lot of things that make me worry a little.
Eaton didn't look very physical against Monroe, then again it was a 42-7 Blowout. Eaton's defense looked pretty good however, no disrespect to Eaton, but Monroe looked like they had never blocked before. There were a lot of plays where Monroe didn't communicate up front and Eaton's Defensive Line were simply unblocked and they made plays in the backfield. Go Ironmen!

X-Factor,

I probably agree with you on this game at Monore... We were not that physical. On offense, you might consider us a finesse team because we do spread things out and pass. But we do run as often as we pass. On defense, I am not sure this was one of our more physical games either, but it did not need to be. The only time Monroe got inside our 30 yard line was because Eaton fumbled on the 9 and that is why they even scored. I do remember at the end of this game, Monroe basically quit. They simply just wanted the game to end. I did not have a chance to watch the film on Monroe vs Eaton so I don't know how the blocking was against Eaton's d-line, but maybe Eaton's d-linemen were quicker than Monroe and that is why they looked unblocked ? I am not saying this is the case but Monroe won 6 games this year, so they must of done somethings right vs other teams....

As i said Yodiak, it was a 42-7 blowout. I didn't feel like they needed to be too physical with Monroe either. Also, like i previously said, i had only seen one film on Eaton and those were just a few assumptions based off of that. I seen the Franklin film today and Eaton appeared to be an entirely different team playing at home. In this game they were much more physical. I've noticed their run/pass ratio changed between those to games. As it probably does week to week.I wonder what they're going to have in store for the Ironmen. And I'm not taking anything from Eaton's D-Line, it's the best we've seen all season, bar none. I'm just pointing out the fact that there were simply times when Eaton defensive linemen were unblocked because of obvious miscommunication. One play that stands out to me, the defender was so shocked that he was untouched that he stutter-stepped (i believe he was anticipating screen). Now, i have absolutely no knowledge of Monroe, aside from this game, but having won 6 games. They must not have played like this. I do agree with you on the end of the game, Monroe seemed to be hanging their heads prematurely. Again, please understand that i'm not disrespecting, degrading or anything of that nature. I've never done that to any player or any team and I'm not going to start now. This is just what i seen.

Both teams are obviously great teams to be on of the 172 schools in Ohio out of the 720 that move on to play a week 11. And I think there are a lot of things that are going to make this a great football game. I can not wait for Saturday night.

Ironmannut07, you know I'm going to be there!

I think you are a little hard on Monroe. Monroe is no cream puff program. They are 6-4 THIS YEAR. They are a team that showed they can score points in bunches. Yet Eaton made them look...well using your words...like a team that "must not have played like this". Monroe has been in the playoffs many times in the last 10 years, and won their region just a few years back. They are a solid team, Eaton put up 42 on them, and only gave up 7 points due to a turnover inside their own 10 yard line.

Monroe 2010
8/27 H Meadowdale (1-9) [2:8] W 17-0
9/3 H Ross (7-3) [2:8] L 28-42
9/10 A Talawanda (1-9) [2:8] W 44-28
9/17 A Franklin (3-7) [3:12] W 16-9
9/24 A Valley View (6-4) [4:16] L 32-44
10/1 H Eaton (10-0) [3:12] L 7-42
10/8 H Brookville (3-7) [4:16] W 34-33
10/15 A Oakwood (5-5) [3:12] L 34-51
10/22 H Northridge (1-9) [4:16] W 56-0
10/29 H Bellbrook (4-6) [3:12] W 41-31

Valley View, solid team, multiple state championships, had to beat Eaton to get to playoffs this season, Eaton dropped 56 on them. St Henry, solid team plays in the MAC, which is the toughest league in the state, multiple state championships, Eaton beat em on the road. My point is, as bad as some of those teams look on film, they looked that bad for a reason.

[Yodiak2]

xfactor,
I did not take what you said as disrespect at all. I was agreeing with you about the Monroe game. The Monroe game was a surprise to me at the time. Monroe had just put up 34 points against a very good Valley View team the weak before and I was expecting more out of Monroe as well... As for the passing vs running. All year long our coaches have made adjustments during the game to call what is working and sticking to it. I think in past seasons, they did not always do that. We tried to oppose our will on them instead of countering what the other team was doing. Like SWBL stated in a previous post, Eaton has not seen an offensive line like Jackson has all year. I think the strength of Eaton's defense has definitely been their d-line, so this will be a match-up of Jackson's strength (O-line) vs. Eaton's strength (D-line). We have faced a few power running teams, but they just did not have the horses to pull it off like Jackson does. It will definitely be a good game and I don't think either team will run away with it. It could come down to a turnover or special teams play that decides the game...

[ironman02]

Not to get off subject, but I'm still curious. Does anyone know Eaton's results during their 1989 playoff appearance?

As for all the trash talking, it's just something that's inevitable. The thing that actually matters is that both staffs and teams have a great respect for each other. I'm sure that they both feel confident in their ability, but they also know that they're going to be facing an outstanding opponent. It's fun to talk on here, and maybe even have a little back-and-forth, but in the end, it doesn't matter. The Ironmen and Eagles will be playing their hearts out on Saturday night, and the best team on that night will win the football game.

As many others have said, I'm just looking forward to a great football game. Once the playoffs start, you can literally feel the intensity level rise. A game like this, with two small communities that live for football, makes it that much more enjoyable. Can't wait for Saturday night!

[Ironman92]

Lemon Monroe's 6 wins were versus teams that were a combined 13-47.

*Jackson must get pressure on QB

*Jackson must have TDs that come from long drives that wear down the defense.

*If Jackson does allow the "BIG" play and quick drving TDs.....my point above is even more important.

*Jackson will have to hit a pass or two early on to be able to run like they want to.

*Jackson must punt well, cover kicks well and make all extra points.

*Again, all this being said by this former golfer...no one knows.

[Blackjack]

Eaton should win this game by 3 TD's.

They have the home field advantage.
Southeastern Ohio football can not compete with anyone else.
SWBL is way too tuff for any league in Southern Ohio.
Too many state champions from Eaton's area.
Eaton scrimmaged 3 potential state champions this year.
Eaton can throw and run with the best teams.
Eaton is stronger and faster.
Eaton's players are smarter than the hilljacks from Southern ohio.
Eaton's coaching is far superior.

Guess all Southeastern Ohio teams should only play teams from their own area.