9 bucks for playoff tickets

[caglewis]

How exactly is it that schools should fund their athletic programs? Increase property taxes via getting levies passed? Charge tuition to attend? Assess extra fees for any student to participate in any extracurricular activities? Or charge admission to attend special events [athletic, dramatic, musical, etc.] and offer for sale concession food and other items most of which are provided by unpaid volunteers? Mercy! What other "entertainment" of any type costs under $10.00 these days?

[noreply66]

anyone out there having to pay parking?

[WestSportsFan]

Yes, Highland charged for parking. I couldn't believe that it is allowed on school property at a playoff game.

[newlex/sheridan]

Sheridan, who hadn't charged to park EVER, blocked off both ends of Sheridan drive and required all non-parking pass cars pay a $2 parking fee, then they didn't even have people directing parking, it was a free for all. I also think it's crap how you can't conduct a 50/50 drawing unless it is done outside of the gates and drawn an hour minimum prior to kickoff. There were 7,000 people at the Sheridan/Salem game, think of the profit the boosters would have made off of that. Then they charge $9 for a single ticket to the game. Rediculous. That said, you basically can't do anything for $9 anymore and I'd rather take in a game then anything else. Skipped out on the Tri-Valley game and went to a movie with the gf Friday night, $7 a movie ticket and they sell bottled water and gatorade starting at $3.50 a 20 oz. Our country is ran by idiots, it is no wonder we are in the state we are. And for whomever mentioned that most are lucky they don't have pay to play, get ready for it. While our new governor elect is reported to be strong on jobs and the economy he is very open about his admiration for a charter school system and hates labor union in schools, you will see more educational cuts coming your way. The news last night reported that a levy in Pickerington (I believe) went down and now each player participating will have to pay $1050 to play sports there. Can you imagine that?

[madpolecat]

The playoffs do not exist for the good of the schools.

The playoffs exist for the good of the OHSAA.

End of Discussion.

[Pol pot]

NCF - OH$AA - It is always about the cashola, unfortunately. I will probably go watch Burg play Fredericktown, but that may be it for me this year.

You got that right.. I remember hearing a couple of years ago that they held their "Annual Conference" in Hawaii. Ridiculous !!

I thought Dan Ross would be a little different than the previous crew.... but.... same ole, same ole.
Just like the damned politicians. Tax and spend. They live high on the hog while Joe Schmoe has to pay $36 just for tickets for his family of 4 to go watch big brother play, not to mention money for gas, hotdogs, cokes, hot chocolate, etc.

as far as i know Dan Ross hasn't done anything new that's positive and certainly not for his home area.

i was at a game the other night and a friend had brought his 5 year old grandson to the game so he could see his older big brother play in the playoffs. The kid was dressed well but still was about to freeze before halftime so his grandpa took him down and was going to take him to the car for awhile to warm him up but was told at the gate that if they left he'd have to pay to get back in ( another $9 bucks EACH for him AND the grandson ) He asked the attendants if they thought a 67 year old man and his 5 year old grandson was going out to get a couple of horns of liquer or grab a quick joint or what? They just said that's the rules.... so he took his boy and went home.
It appears that "Big Brother" was not only in the game but also standing guarding at the gate too.

Maybe Dan Ross needs to practice what he preaches and ...

RESPECT THE GAME !!!

Maybe you need to use a little common sense and get a clue!

Dan Ross was not the commissioner when OHSAA delegates went to Hawaii (and actually it was District Boards). Re-entry rules are standard in many venues. As for price it is what it is, prices are rising in every facet of our society. You have a choice in this matter and that choice is stay home.

As for programs, each hosting site is required as part of the agreement to make programs, these are generally not real involved programs as schools have less than a week to get them together.

[Pol pot]

How exactly is it that schools should fund their athletic programs? Increase property taxes via getting levies passed? Charge tuition to attend? Assess extra fees for any student to participate in any extracurricular activities? Or charge admission to attend special events [athletic, dramatic, musical, etc.] and offer for sale concession food and other items most of which are provided by unpaid volunteers? Mercy! What other "entertainment" of any type costs under $10.00 these days?

Have you not figured this out yet, some of these guys think it should all be free, because "It's for the kids".

[newlex/sheridan]

I would still go at that price but I can afford to. Not everyone has a job right now believe it or not. If a family of four has to decide between spending $36 bucks just to get in a game and mom and dad aren't working or only one of them is this means they are shorting themselves in another area. If son/grandson or some other relative is playing then you are making them put a price on how much being there means to them. Don't get me wrong, I know you have to charge to get in for sure and I would def. have no problem paying the $9 IF THE SCHOOLS GOT THE MONEY, but they don't, the OHSAA does. There are countless examples of this sort of thing. I coach basketball, in order to coach in the state of Ohio you have have both a BCI/FBI background check $55, CPR/1st aid certification $15-35, Sports med/pupil activity supervisor permit $25 for the class and $45 for the application fee, and now we have to take a "fundamentals of coaching" class that you purchase online and take online (5 hours by the way) with a test that doesn't record grade. This is fine by me, just more hoops to jump through, but what about my volunteer assistant coach who has to pay all of these fees and isn't being compensated? Or my reserve and 7th grade coaches who are college students? When is it that they will have made enough? OHSAA is a money maker, they do not have the interest of the kids at the top of their list and I think that is wrong.

[gunit]

I thought you weren't allowed to charge to park unless you did during the regular season?

The 9 dollars is a joke for admission.

[Pol pot]

NewLex/Sheridian, you can thank your State Legislature for many of those fees to coach and the NHFS (National High School Sports Federation) which the OHSAA belongs to and has to follow many of their protocols, not the OHSAA it's self. You are also correct that not everyone has a job that allows them the luxury of these games, however does Walmart give things away when people can not afford to pay?

[Orange and Brown]

I look at it this way! During the season NY charges 4 bucks, away games are 4 to 5 bucks and sometimes a buck or 2 to park. I don't like having to pay to park but it's not the end of the world. Paying 8 bucks for presale playoff tix isn't that bad. I understand when you take a family of 4 to the game it gets costly at that price, but there are a lot of hands in the money we pay for postseason sports. It costs a lot of money to organize football playoffs. If someone on here thinks they can do a better job then the powers that be currently then throw your hat in for the job.

[sprinter14]

What burns me is the fact that only PRESALE tickets go to the schools (and just a portion of that I believe)

But when you do pay $9 at the gate, NONE of that goes to the schools???

Someone correct me on that if I am wrong.

I would gladly pay 9 at the gate if half of my money went to the schools.

[Mad-Dogg]

Another question about the OHSAA. I was told at the gate by the ticket takers that there were no programs for the game between Burg and Ridgewood because the OHSAA wouldn't allow it. What the Hell is up with that? I have always gotten a program at the playoff games for a souveneir. He told me they wouldn't aloow them to sell them because they would be making a profit and yet they have the audacity to charge $9 for a ticket. Dan Ross should be ashamed of himself.

Did this happen at all the 1st round games?

i agree 77. that was a bunch of BS. i've always got programs at playoff games

[selonmc]

If you do a little math the numbers are staggering. I estimated the amount of people that attend playoff games and I increased it with each division. Meaning more people will attend a D3 game than a D5 game for example. Believe me the numbers I used are extremely conservative. I come up with around 1,000,000 people will attend all playoff games combined (that's an average of 5,000 per game). With ticket prices at $9 and $8 presale lets assume the average tick price is $8.50... that's a total of about $8,500,000.

How much does a venue get for hosting a game rounds 2 through 4, and how much does Mass/Canton get for the championship games? That would be a an expense coming out of that $8.5mm. Let's estimate, 84 sites will need to be rented in rounds 2 through 4, and then Mass/Canton for the Championship round. IF, and I can't imagine OHSAA pays this, but if they actually paid and average of $30,000 per venue then that would only be an expense of $2,520,000. I totally pulled $30,000 out of my arse; maybe somebody else on here knows what their school got for hosting a game. I can't imagine they pay over $500K for all venues. On top of that I believe OHSAA sells the rights to broadcast the championship games. Then there are those cute OHSAA playoff shirts and crap.

My point is where is all of this money going? I'm not sure how insurance is handled... whether that's an OHSAA expense, but I can't think of any other expenses off the top of my head other than trophies. That's just football. Imagine the revenue the basketball tourny produces. I know not all OHSAA playoffs/state meets probably make a profit, and there are administrator salaries/offices that need to be paid; but there are large sums of money being made by OHSAA. I would like to see where it is all going because the school I follow isn't seeing a dime of it.

[Pol pot]

If you do a little math the numbers are staggering. I estimated the amount of people that attend playoff games and I increased it with each division. Meaning more people will attend a D3 game than a D5 game for example. Believe me the numbers I used are extremely conservative. I come up with around 1,000,000 people will attend all playoff games combined (that's an average of 5,000 per game). With ticket prices at $9 and $8 presale lets assume the average tick price is $8.50... that's a total of about $8,500,000.

How much does a venue get for hosting a game rounds 2 through 4, and how much does Mass/Canton get for the championship games? That would be a an expense coming out of that $8.5mm. Let's estimate, 84 sites will need to be rented in rounds 2 through 4, and then Mass/Canton for the Championship round. IF, and I can't imagine OHSAA pays this, but if they actually paid and average of $30,000 per venue then that would only be an expense of $2,520,000. I totally pulled $30,000 out of my arse; maybe somebody else on here knows what their school got for hosting a game. I can't imagine they pay over $500K for all venues. On top of that I believe OHSAA sells the rights to broadcast the championship games. Then there are those cute OHSAA playoff shirts and crap.

My point is where is all of this money going? I'm not sure how insurance is handled... whether that's an OHSAA expense, but I can't think of any other expenses off the top of my head other than trophies. That's just football. Imagine the revenue the basketball tourny produces. I know not all OHSAA playoffs/state meets probably make a profit, and there are administrator salaries/offices that need to be paid; but there are large sums of money being made by OHSAA. I would like to see where it is all going because the school I follow isn't seeing a dime of it.

You do realize that the OHSAA publishes their revenue and expenses, no need to go off on tangents and speculate. Expenses are plentiful for each and every tournament that is ran, there is much more to do than roll a ball out, for tournaments expenses are covered for the competing schools, and the only tournaments that belong to the OHSAA are the entire set of Football Tournaments and the REgional events and up of all other sports.

[Pol pot]

Another question about the OHSAA. I was told at the gate by the ticket takers that there were no programs for the game between Burg and Ridgewood because the OHSAA wouldn't allow it. What the Hell is up with that? I have always gotten a program at the playoff games for a souveneir. He told me they wouldn't aloow them to sell them because they would be making a profit and yet they have the audacity to charge $9 for a ticket. Dan Ross should be ashamed of himself.

Did this happen at all the 1st round games?

i agree 77. that was a bunch of BS. i've always got programs at playoff games

YOu are serious aren't you? This is 100% responsibility of the site management, no one else, this is NOT Dan Ross' fault, nor is this the fault of the OHSAA. One yahoo on here says they didn't sell programs 20 people say they did and the everyone flies off the handle believe the one who says they didn't sell them. Get a clue.

[Gray Fighting Tiger]

The playoffs do not exist for the good of the schools.

The playoffs exist for the good of the OHSAA.

End of Discussion.

As far as money goes, I think that's correct.

[Gray Fighting Tiger]

What burns me is the fact that only PRESALE tickets go to the schools (and just a portion of that I believe)

But when you do pay $9 at the gate, NONE of that goes to the schools???

Someone correct me on that if I am wrong.

I would gladly pay 9 at the gate if half of my money went to the schools.

According to info which has been published many time over the years in the Ironton Tribune, you are correct. A "part" (how big a part, I do not know) of pregame sales go to the school, but ZERO of the gate sales.

I too would feel a lot better about the ticket prices if all or most of the money went to the schools.

[Pol pot]

Teams and schools do make money off of these games, each and every team gets an expense sheet, they get paid good mileage, meals for each player and limited staff, cheerleaders the same, each school gets a set amount for incidential expenses, and they get the bonus for pre-sale tickets.

Some of you act like these games are 100% profit for the OHSAA, there are many expenses that go into these games, there have been play-off games that have lost money, and several every year simply breakeven. Also keep in mind that Football and Basketball have to support all of the other championships that the OHSAA sanctions. Do you really believe that the Regional and State Tournaments make money in the following sports? Tennis, Track, State Cross, Golf, Bowling, Swimming and Diving, Soccer? The revenue has to support the other programs. Now I do understand that many of you would do away with the so called Olympic Sports, but athletics is not about just a few athletes.

[sprinter14]

Just to feel better about my $9 per ticket (we will be buying 6), I am arranging for a friend of mine to pick tickets up for me at Ironton ahead of time. This way, hopefully SOME of my money is going to Ironton athletics.

If it were resonable to stop by Minford or Oak Hill one day this week, I would do the same for them, but it isn't worth 2 hours of driving to save $12 and to find out later a school gets 5 cents from each pre-sale ticket.

So can anyone enlighten us on what the percentage is that a school gets of pre-sale tickets??