Warrior C C wrote:Thank You WarriorBS...I guess I am required to get my puppy some different shots per my granddaughter but I will try and let them tell me what he needs...Is this Alloways place a respectable place? Wasnt quite ready for this gift and didnt know it was so demanding...Not sure how to break it from chewing up everything. My slippers were the latest item, but I will survive. :12224 The sun comes out tmrw!
CC if you were a true warren fan who has followed sports there for so many years then you would know that there is a vet in belpre who is a warren grad and was a great athlete.
Good win for Warren against the Trojans. The Trojans need to cut down on the turnovers and silly mistakes late in ball games to become the team that they are capable of being. Not sure the coaching staff put the players in the best position to win as Zaide Whitley watched the 2nd half from the bench. When on the floor, he seemed to be a shut down defender and much better ball handler than the guards that Portsmouth had on the floor at the end of the ballgame, with the exception of Evans. I am still amazed that Evans didnt get a touch on the last few possessions Portsmouth had? The other guards had a hard time with Warren's pressure and seemed a bit overwhelmed. When Bendolph returns, Portsmouth's best lineup will be Evans, Bendolph, Whitley, McKinley, and Underwood; with bratchett, adams, jordan, and collins coming off the bench to spell them periodically. It's a long season with a lot of ball yet to be played and hopefully Portsmouth will learn from their mistakes and get some of these other guys some valuable playing time so they will be better equipped to face some pressure if called upon later in the season.
Congratulations to the Warriors on the win.......for the third year in a row, Warren wins at Portsmouth in another nailbiter.......the previous two wins were in OT. Austin Cunningham had an outstanding game for WHS.
I missed the game due to work, but it seems the most common opinion is that the Trojans defense did not put the clamps on Warren........getting stops at the most critical times has been a Portsmouth weakness for the last 4 years.........this would seem to partially explain why that in both of PHS's losses that the Trojans had the lead going into the final quarter, only to lose the game both times.........have to get stops in the clutch!!
This is still a good Portsmouth team that will get MUCH better when Andrew Bendolph comes back......I know this has been talked about ad nauseum, but AB brings tremendous on-ball defense and outstanding point guard skills.......I still think he is the best PG in the SE district.
Having Andrew in the lineup will make a huge difference in how the Trojans handle full court pressure, half court traps, and other defenses that right now are giving PHS trouble.
Take Cunningham out of the Warren lineup........Trojans win.......take Austin Loop out of the South Webster lineup........Trojans win..........we don't have our best player, and yet we're still playing good enough basketball to give ourselves a chance to win in the 4th quarter.
Zaide Whitely will play more and be an impact player.......being a runner myself, I know that you don't get in great cardiovascular shape in just 10 days........no one could expect Zaide to play 3 or 3 1/2 quarters of all out hard basketball after being injured for 3 months.......I wasn't at the game, and was surprised he didn't play more, but I didn't expect major minutes from him at this point of the season........just maybe Coach Collins is just trying to ease him back into playing shape.
When we get our full lineup going, and then we go out and lose a game like this, then I will really be upset!!
Trojan Dave : I guess you could use that senerio if you choose (take out the other teams highest scorer and we win). The problem with that is for 3 quarters you had the high scorer in the game, and you were winning. Evans played a great offensive game, but if my memory serves me right, he had a little foul trouble defensively. Austin Cunningham has had some of his best games in that gym. Im thinking he could have scored more. In the 4th quarter Ward had 10, Windland had 8 Cunningham had 7 Hastie had 5, and Austin Henthorn flat out waylaid your big man Underwood. That my friend is team play. Lets back up Grant Venham not only had 4 blocks two of them were Stellar... one into the backboard, one into the wall, both from your other big man McKinley. You had your boy Zaide in the game quite a bit, but the warriors had some great guard play defensively that held him to what 4 maybe 6 points? OK, he's hurt, I'll give him a break. It was the full court press that really messed with your team. I don't know how Bendolph helps that unless your a guard away from a good team, but I kinda doubt it.
Evans was the offense. McKinley was the other half of the scoring effort, but he only shot within a few feet of the bucket. He also tried to give a few of his foul shots to Evans.....that made him look real good. So,if Bendoplh is the answer, GREAT. I think you take what you get and make the best of it. PERSONALLY, Collins was out coached on this particular evening.....Warren also used the Team approach there too. Coaches Maddox, Duckworth, Coffman, and Colgrove ,well done. Coach Maddox this is the second time I believe you were actually enjoying yourself, Do It Some More, because that win was great!
Trust me, Abdrew Bendolph will bring much more to this team then ball handling, if we had Andrew no way wopuld Warren be able to doupkle and triple down on Evans like they did in the second half, and yes, that was a Great move ny Warren coaches, good coaches pick up on things like that, take the ball out of Evans hands and it gives you much better chance at winning.
Im not saying we win the games we lost with Bendolph, no one can ever know that., but I can say we will be a much better team with Bendoplh because I seen it with my own eyes over the summer.
Im not sure if we are a guard away from being a good team either, but I know we took a very good Warren team to OVER TIME two times last year,and let on slip away from us this year when we was up 14 or so in the second half this year, so if Warren is a great team as I have ben hearig "and they looked pretty good to me" then I feel good about where we are right now, with a lot of basketball left to play.
best of luck to Warren, cant wait for round two with you all.
I hope you do well with your season. I am sure your kids work hard, and will do well. I am just tired of hearing that "Bendolph Sad Song". The kids you have played hard and never stopped, and you get this "If we had a different team this never would have happened". Why discredit the ones that did the most for you on the day it happened? I bet they didn't go home happy, but they gave what they have, and every time you yell "Bendolph", one of them is thinking "Why even try, as soon as he gets here I won't even smell the floor".
Think about that senerio. It's gonna do one of a few things, mess up what chemistry you have, make a few players try harder, or you'll come out smelling like a rose. That last one is the one I'd shoot for.
Zaide should have played more period...he looked fine when he played...when the game was close at the end he should have been on the court...for me it is hard to watch...going back to last years tourney the Trojans last three losses have been due to complete 4th quarter meltdowns...again in my opinion no composure, poise, Basketball IQ, and I hate to say it but you have to question their preparation...AB or no AB we should have won the game...30 points in the 4th quarter come on!...AB will definitely help no doubt but I am getting sick of hearing the excuses and what ifs...bottom line they are 1-2 and should be 3-0 =underachivers so far...to me thats the worst thing you can say about a team or a player
Not to make you feel better, but a few of the boys on the floor in the 4th quarter have alot of chemistry, and have something to prove. I don't think that 30 points is out of the question when they get together. The 5 that took the floor in the begining of the 2nd quarter in my opinion, can take us further than any other Warren Team (that includes the State Runner-Up Girls Team). I have that much confidence in their abilities, style of play, and Chemistry... Mix that with the others that play their hearts out day in and day out, and we can't go wrong... I would like to be proven wrong. Unfortunately, the only thing I can do is sit back and watch...hold my breath, and encourage the ones that do go out there to do the best that they can possibly do.
32, 16, 6, You are right, play with what you have, not what if. When Knost went down with his ankle, Coach Maddox went to the bench and used what he had. This is not the first time a Warren team has come from behind down big in the 3rd qt. 2005 Sec. Tourny. game at Logan, Warren down 27 to FU with 5:13 to go in the 3rd qt. Maddox went with his SPEED TEAM as I called it, and by the end of the 3rd qt. the game was tied! Coach Maddox did the same thing Sat. nigth. 2 starters and 3 bench players made the run. 9 players scored, now thats using what you have and TEAM BALL and a DEEP BENCH.
Ex Coach 78 : Why, do suppose we come from behind? I think it's as obvious as Rudolph's red nose. Look at the two quarters Warren had the most points scored. That happened because there was a certain mix of kids on the floor. It was a combination of defense and scoring, and "I wanna be there".
We have got to see its better to get ahead and be ahead than to come from behind. Don't get me wrong, there are teams you have to have some beef on the floor. Unfortunately with big comes slow.
Thus your speed team. With playing time comes confidence. Most of the kids are getting that playing time. It just seems backwards to me. The next game we will go back to that same old starting 4. Knost will probably be out for a day or two with that ankle. Again, I will be encouraging a couple of players to do their best. It's just confusing to me. We should be here to play basketball, win games, and try to go as far as we possibly can.
We have more than "One" big man. Now, go back and read.....He was a part of the 2nd quarter scoring effort, and also a part of the 4th. He played stellar d on both of Portsmouths big men. I personally think the kid needs a little help. He shouldn't have to work that hard by himself. It "might" help to keep the fouls down if we could get someone to play help side d. That isn't pointed at any player directly. Its just something that needs some work. Of the other few that play that low post position, not one of them help out on the collapse, or on the box out. (Which has nothing to do with how fast you run the 40.) This is basketball, you have to move your feet to get where you need to be and know when to plant them. You have to use the butt and legs to shove them out of the way, I see alot of streight up play...
he did play prety good D agaisnt our big men, Dion, did end up with 20 points but had to work hard to get it,Dion was coming off a 28 point game the week befor so hopefuly he keeps playing the way he has been.
32,16,6...I am not saying Warren doesn't have a nice ballclub and good team chemistry but PHS has too many athletic kids to give up 30 pts in a quarter especially when you consider they only gave up 38 in the first three quarters combined!...to me it is either they are not in shape or simply don't have the desire or want to to play good defense...again Warren has a nice club but I think anyone who was at that game left there thinking the Trojans let one get away
32,16,6, I saw the same thing you did. Coach Maddox went with the speed team when he needed. He tried other combinations earlier, I'm sure he thought would work. You're always searching for the right combination the entire game. The speed team got it done. But that combination would not have worked the whole game. Thats why you have a bench to go to. I do agree with you on the post play and I know its worked on in practice. But if the players don't do it in the game thats not the coaches fault. Go team Warren Warriors
bball06 NODOUBT, I would feel the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. I just hope you all dont change that before we meet again..
78 : Its been worked on in practice for alot of years... I am not sure who's gonna make it happen. If the players don't hold themselves accountable than I would say it's up to the coach next. Then you have the parent coaches that are probably preaching it to their players daily... I havn't heard anybody yell "SIT" yet? Who knows.
As far as the combinations, I belong to the "If it works, use it till it Breaks" Club. I'm all about giving kids a chance, but how many chances does a kid get ? I say go with the 2nd quarter combo, and the 4th quarter Speed Team is obsolete, and bballo6 goes home knowing where he stands no questions asked. (Sorry Man, couldn't let that one go)
trojandave wrote:Congratulations to the Warriors on the win.......for the third year in a row, Warren wins at Portsmouth in another nailbiter.......the previous two wins were in OT. Austin Cunningham had an outstanding game for WHS.
I missed the game due to work, but it seems the most common opinion is that the Trojans defense did not put the clamps on Warren........getting stops at the most critical times has been a Portsmouth weakness for the last 4 years.........this would seem to partially explain why that in both of PHS's losses that the Trojans had the lead going into the final quarter, only to lose the game both times.........have to get stops in the clutch!!
This is still a good Portsmouth team that will get MUCH better when Andrew Bendolph comes back......I know this has been talked about ad nauseum, but AB brings tremendous on-ball defense and outstanding point guard skills.......I still think he is the best PG in the SE district.
Having Andrew in the lineup will make a huge difference in how the Trojans handle full court pressure, half court traps, and other defenses that right now are giving PHS trouble.
Take Cunningham out of the Warren lineup........Trojans win.......take Austin Loop out of the South Webster lineup........Trojans win..........we don't have our best player, and yet we're still playing good enough basketball to give ourselves a chance to win in the 4th quarter.
Zaide Whitely will play more and be an impact player.......being a runner myself, I know that you don't get in great cardiovascular shape in just 10 days........no one could expect Zaide to play 3 or 3 1/2 quarters of all out hard basketball after being injured for 3 months.......I wasn't at the game, and was surprised he didn't play more, but I didn't expect major minutes from him at this point of the season........just maybe Coach Collins is just trying to ease him back into playing shape.
When we get our full lineup going, and then we go out and lose a game like this, then I will really be upset!!
Dave, good call..it is obvious how big a difference A.B. has made for this team,,I am in no way taking anything away from the rest of the kids,,because they was already a good team,,but when A.B. joined the team it gave as another ball handler,another scorer and another big time defensive player, plus took a lot of pressure off Wayne and Zaide on getting the ball up the floor, made our bench deeper...I am in no way trying to start another debate, just wanted to point out that we was right about Andrew making a big difference in this team
