He Who Took His Talents To South Beach

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Wow. LeBron is the most unstoppable basketball player ever. He can get to the basket at will, better than anyone ever. And as far as the Hawks, they arent a championship team. I thought gahs4ever was kind of smart but after reading this then I pretty much have no respect for him.


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KingJames wrote:Wow. LeBron is the most unstoppable basketball player ever. He can get to the basket at will, better than anyone ever. And as far as the Hawks, they arent a championship team. I thought gahs4ever was kind of smart but after reading this then I pretty much have no respect for him.
Pretty sure GAHS wasn't out to get your respect. He was staing his opinion, which last time I checked was what SEOP's was for.....Just because you don't agree with him is no reason not to respect him. DO YOU KNOW HIM PERSONALY? DO YOU KNOW THE THINGS HE DOES TO SUPPORT GALLIA ACADAMY ATHLETICS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE IS? Respect is a big WORD.

I don't like a lot of peoples opinions on here, but that has nothing to do with respecting someone personaly


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If LeBron can get to the basket at will why is he firing up long 3 point shots instead of driving to the basket when the game is tied? Shouldn't he want to take the best shot he can during that moment? Even right now teams would rather LeBron take the last shot to win the game instead of D Wade. Also it was considered to be Melo who played the best in the last Olympics.


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Wow, at times this topic gets out of hand. I just want to say that I respect everyones point of views, thats what this web site is for, so that people can post their opinions. Just some of us like LeBron and some don't, but I think both sides can agree that LBJ is a very talented ball player.


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A little out of hand............... don't agree with everything 4ever says on here nor do I have to. He has the same issues with me, I am sure. But without knowing him, I respect him as much as one possibly can for what he does with the young people of Gallia Academy and for what he stands for in life in general just basing that off of some of his posts on here. Respect, really? And I am somewhat in agreement with you about LBJ, king.

LBJ is very talented, physically more than any other player I have seen therefore I enjoy watching him. I am a fan of sports and enjoy watching great talent and god given ability.

As far as Lebron taking bad shots at the end of games.... I think alot of that goes back to Mike Brown standing outside the huddle until the horn sounds then going in and saying a little 3 word rah rah chant. It also has alot to do with the most important part of playoff basketball, defense. Defensive strategies change come playoff time and teams won't show it in the regular season. Playoff defense is about pushing players and teams out of their comfort zone and the Celts and Magic had the patent on the plan for beating the Cavs. Crowd the paint and don't let Lebron drive, especially late in the game, and make all the other Cavs (the pretenders) beat them. NOBODY can get to the rim at will without the help of teammates and it is hard for teammates to help when they are busy watching the show. Of course the exception would be to leap from about 20 feet over everyone and dunk it without making/drawing contact but that would be Space Jam stuff right there. Sure he shouldn't have taken those shots but after watching that same episode many times, it is the gameplan with no option number 2. Even late in regular season games teams would crowd the paint and not let Lebron get an easy shot, sometimes. In time, someone will see what a value LBJ can be if he is taken off the ball and allowed to utilize screens and back cuts to create easy shots. He could be a much bigger force than he is if used properly and as a fan, that is why I keep watching but the big changes would be up to coaching. I am pretty sure Riley sees the potential and won't sit idle if potential isn't fully utilized, especially in the extra season when it counts most.

I watched Kobe go through the same situation when the Lakers struggled. He was on the ball every play and was the offense. Didn't promote winning at all. Now back in the pivot of the triangle he creates confusion and mismatches and most importantly uncertainty of his whereabouts for the defense and it makes him deadly when need be. Not comparing the 2 guys at all but comparing the situations. Kobe is in a much better situation for scoring even if he gets half the touches as Lebron because of easier shots. And yes he is a better jump shooter right now but at 26 he wasn't nor could he attack defense like Lebron can right now.

4ever, I do have a question for you. Have you ever seen a book about the Big O, I think he co-authored it? I haven't seen it since hs in the GAHS library but in this book he credits the best player he ever played against as being a "white boy" from Marshall University, he couldn't remember the name and said he didn't know what became of him but was sure he was playing pro ball somewhere...... Kinda interesting read, especially when the MAN was my coach at the time. Of course you know who I am referring to.


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LeBron puts up 51 against the Magic last night. The Heat were up 20 with 6 minutes to go and Orlando made a late run and were only down 3 with a chance to win it at the end and missed the shot.


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LeBron played well last night and was motivated to do that. Just think if he could play that way all the time. Even though he scored 51 the Magic still came close to winning at the end. If Howard would have shot 50% from the free throw line the Magic would have won.


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Sorry. Thought this was a Brian Daboll thread.


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bdubya wrote:Sorry. Thought this was a Brian Daboll thread.
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Only a Browns fan could appreciate that!


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LeBron is coming up short again at the end of games. The one 3 point shot was way off.


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Did anybody else see Lebron's reaction when he got rejected by Amare, priceless


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The Knicks are a real good team cant wait to see who they pick up in the off season. What do you guys think would happen if D. Howard went to New York? Could Howard, Amare, and Melo play together?


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^^ Been that way for decades and not going to change anytime soon. It's funny to see the term "big market" tagged to a team from Miami though considering they are a fairly new franchise. Went from no market to big market. Tradition creates a fanbase which generates money and in pro sports money is king. Miami is proof that small market can become big market but it takes good ownership, good coaching, and a winning product. The best franchises in pro sport have consistancy in ownership and show loyalty towards thier "family" which is attractive to people (Celts, Lakers, Yankees, Steelers, Sox just to name a few). Very few maintain a high level without being loyal (Cowboys, Reds, Browns) but can have great seasons mixed in with the mediocre ones.

Nobody wants to go to work for a company that consistantly changes hands and shows little dedication to gaining success. Pro athletes are only human. Not defending them at all for their egotistical ways but just trying to shed a different light on the thread. Who would you guys like to play a sport for if you could play just one season in any pro sport? Where would you like to say you spent your time as a player?

All sports, including high school and college are really the same but at least in those sports graduation clears the shelf every few years. The powers remain powers and the rest play a never ending game of catch up. Some gain ground and some just try to keep their head above water. Very few are fortunate enough to catch up and stay at the top consistantly but the powers are rarely down for very long.

Without getting political, our gov't and economy work the same way (most of the time). If everyone were middle class things may be better for our country but hard work is rewarded, as it should be, and diversity exists. All men are NOT created equal contrary to what we were taught in school years ago. Good or bad, it is life.


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Along with what you said Chipwood, small market teams can become big market teams. For example Cleveland before LBJ got there was prob the smallest market team in the NBA and over night once they got LBJ they were one of the biggest markets, and a short 7 years later after the KING left it is back down to prob one of the smallest markets and still losing money everyday that Lebron is not in a Cavs uniform. I read somewhere that the Cavs and the city of Cleveland will make around $500,000 dollars less a night than last year when LBJ was there.


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4ever, Sorry my first sentence was to you. The rest was just a general rant concerning all the silly talk of big market vs small market by all the talking heads. Things are really the same as they have been for years. I live in Gallipolis, that is small market to me, any city worthy of a pro sports franchise is big market compared to southern Ohio. If I started a pro basketball team called the Gallipolis Gauls, that would be small market! :122245


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I would like to say to you most recent post though that franchises with tradition and "true" fans don't have to win to fill the seats and get support. Our Brownies have struggled most of the past 40ish years but games are sold out and fans like you and I find a way to be optimistic by any glimmer of light that appears and watch religiously (when they are on tv). Boston had some down years but the fans didn't leave, they were restless but didn't waiver in their support. LA fans are different in that most true fans don't get to attend games, that spot is reserved for the celebs, exluding Jack who is true.

To the Cavs credit, they do have a solid leader in their coach now and he does things much differently than they were done by Brown. Hickson is a glimmer of light, but he was solid last year as well, just got to watch from the bench most of the game.

My Gauls will never have a gym to play in if it is up to me.


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We're all rooting for laundry these days :( ....except for brown pants :mad:


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4ever, you said James had nothing to do with the market size in Cleveland. James had everthing to do with the market size in Cleveland. The Cavs were nobody before LBJ got their, and their attendence was awful. When LeBron was a senior in highschool and they played at the Cavs arena they sold it out, the Cavs never sold out one game that year that should tell you something. LeBrons first game as a Cav the arena was sold out, and continued to sell out every night untill the day he took his talents to South Beach. The only games the Cavs have sold out this year was the first game of the season and the night the KING was back in town. Not to mention all the Cavs gear sold when LBJ was their. You cant sit their and say the Cavs are worth as much now as when LBJ was their. LeBron had everything, I repeat everything to do with the market in Cleveland.


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So you saying if the Lakers didnt sale one ticket all season or sale any fan gear that the market would be the same size. If your answer to that is yes then you are wrong. The market size has to do with money and the more people that come to the games is more money.


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I cant believe you have a highschool education, because who is talking about football this is a NBA thread. Also I didnt say anything about LA having a football team I said the Lakers which if you didnt know is a NBA team. To answer your question no was have not had a favorite NBA team since the Bulls back in the Jordan days. I am just a LeBron fan. All that matters in a market is MONEY PERIOD and guess where 90% of that money comes from............. THE FANS THAT BY THE TICKETS TO WATCH THEM PLAY.


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