dime-a-dozen wrote:you guys watched it on TV! you werent there! not the same!
I agree, I had a good view on the TV with the Time clock right on the screen and an excellent view of the last Foul that put Logan on the line with 1.7 seconds left when the foul was called. Sometimes you have alot better view of things on TV and you get to see the replays.
Believe Me I was hoping for a Chesapeake win, but it was a foul and the right call was made. The Foul was called just outside the 3 Point Line, I don't think that is quite 75'.
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I Think the refs called a great game with the exception of the last call. Noble and Williamson were both going after the ball and Noble did bump Williamson while going for the ball but you can't let a game end like that 75 feet from the basket on a hustle play. Coach Davis coaches on hustle and defense and I bet he applauded Noble for that effort. It's a shame that a team got the w on a play like that. Chesapeake had the lead the whole second half and lost their two scorers and the team hung in there. I'm proud to be a panther
So many no calls the entire game. I'm not one to blame the refs, but it was 8 on 5 the whole game. The last foul wasn't my only issue with the officiating. Colin Kennedy was beat on while trying to get position the entire game (as usual) and fouls were rarely called. Despite that, the guy played a fantastic game. Chessy point guards were ridden down the court, but when Hintz got close to his man, the whistle was blown. And the sad thing is, these guys are from southern Ohio and do the same thing every time the have a Chesapeake game (which is a lot).
But enough about the officiating. Chesapeake played really well this game, and they should have won hit. The Kennedys really took control tonight. This was the best game I've seen Eric Kennedy play! His defense is really coming along and he is getting much momre aggressive. Foul trouble really hurt these guys in the lonng run, but losing by 1 to the defending AAA WV state champs really showed me that Chesy is the real deal. It was definitely preparation for teams they're going to face in the postseason. I wish we could see a rematch with these two teams...definitely some exciting basketball! Chessy had 5 losses last year and still went to the final four, so this doesn't hurt them a bit.
Another note, that Williamson kid has a nice shot, but he could sure use a little lesson in class.
For the record, I heard the SJ-SP girls officiating last year was suspect as well...but I think that had more to do with Catholic school vs. Public school than state borders.
I saw a non-SSAC sanctioned private school of under 100 kids (athletics are NOT pushed there...just recreational) play a public school a few years back and shoot 30 more FT's...they were called for 5 fouls the entire game, versus 27 on the opposite team...in a 2-point game. I'm talking fouls away from the ball...just crazy stuff. That same crew had called plenty of games in the SSAC school's gym before (and been just fine)...but never since.
I knew there would be trouble when one of the officials went to the scorers table before the game and asked "how many points did _______ score last game?" to the non-SSAC bookkeeper.
It doesn't matter if you were at the game or watching it on T.V. and it has nothing to do with being from Ohio or W.V. What really matters is you just should not make that kind of call in a tight game with virtually no time left on the clock. Let the kids decide the game.
Ball4 wrote:It doesn't matter if you were at the game or watching it on T.V. and it has nothing to do with being from Ohio or W.V. What really matters is you just should not make that kind of call in a tight game with virtually no time left on the clock. Let the kids decide the game.
So with that being said
Do you make that call in the first minute of the game? I am just curious to know when its the right time to call a loose ball foul, sorry I dont have a rules book so I dont know the answer
He knocked him into the bench with time left on the clock...it would have been Chesapeake ball on the sideline if that call is not made. It HAD to be called. Not making it would have been more of a travesty. He literally sent Williamson headfirst toward the Chesapeake bench. The official had no choice but to make the call with 1.7 seconds left.
Ball4 wrote:It doesn't matter if you were at the game or watching it on T.V. and it has nothing to do with being from Ohio or W.V. What really matters is you just should not make that kind of call in a tight game with virtually no time left on the clock. Let the kids decide the game.
Especially with all of the no calls the other 31 minutes and 58 seconds. If you're not going to call fouls the rest of the game, why call it then? IMO, it was just a hustle play. Just like someone diving on top of a guy on the floor to get a jump ball call. Shouldn't that be a foul then? There was contact, after all.
But the Peake played well tonight. I'm looking for another long season if they continue to play like they did tonight. There's no shame in losing to that team by a point.
As a former official all I'm saying is I would not have made that call in that situation. As conehead said it was a hustle play away from the basket and they both went into the Peakes bench. With the St. Joe Invit. coming up this week and Chesapeake playing in it and all these officials will be calling games ,I'll bet my last buck that if this crew got assigned Chesapeakes game they will be asking out of it.
So what do you call? You have 1.7 seconds on the clock, one kid who gained possession getting knocked out of bounds by another.
Make the proper call...curious exactly what you do call there. You said no call, but with the ball out of bounds and time on the clock, you have to call something.
Below is the link. Foul occurs 43 seconds into the video.
You're telling me that you reward the kid who was late to the ball for knocking the kid that beat him to it out of bounds by giving his team the basketball? If that is your take on it...well...I don't really have anything else to say...it's pretty self-explanatory.
That's really far away. I figured one of the cameras from down low would have a better angle. I don't know who I'd give the ball to, but that's because I'm not an official. But I still wouldn't call a foul. It's two guys just going hard after the ball--no different than someone diving on top of another who has possession of the ball and a jump ball being called (and that happened tonight). There's contact on both, but neither really affect the outcome of the game. The only thing Williamson could have done was hurled the ball down the court. The game was basically over.
ok with seeing that video clip the logan player clearly was first to the ball and the peake player gave him a hip check into the bench. Seriously find another call that a little more up in the air to complain about. As a fan without a dog in the fight thats clearly a foul from my point of view. So keep rambling on and on but its not going to change the outcome.
There was contact there, but there was contact all night that wasn't called and should have been. I think most people are upset because the ref decided to call that foul when the game was on the line but not the entire game. It's one thing if you're going to let players get away with being unnecessarily rough, but this play has to be called the same way as the rest of the game--which tonight was not at all.
All I want is a little consistancy, and even consistantly bad is okay with me.
conehead is right.. if you are going to let them play and not blow the whistle for the rest of the game why bother on that... there were harder and more obvious fouls committed through out the game and fouls that affected or would of affected plays that werent called...
Yes these guys come to the Ohio and call games and as soon as they walked on the floor it was like "oh no here goes the crap in officiating"....
So you guys would have a no call there giving the ball back to the peake and letting them get the last shot at the win. Then the shot goes in and then all the logan fans are here complaining about the refs. Really? This call is way different then a let them play call in the paint You have to call that foul forget how much time was on the clock that loose ball foul is called all the time at every level. Dont be made at the ref tell the peake player to not put the ref in that postition to make the call. What was the odds of the logan player getting that ball and making what like a 70 foot shot to win the game if the peake player would have backed off.
Bucks fan is right. The Logan guy had the ball and then got hip checked. If no one had possesion then I agree with a no call. But b/c Logan had the ball and it went out of bounds you have to call a foul on the hip check. Its either foul on Chessy or Chessy ball with time left. I was rooting for Chessy but the correct call was made. Lets all just agree that it was a painfull way to end a hard fought game.
Huge foul. I'm not sure how anyone is even arguing that. It was the correct call and while the Chesapeake player was hustling, he was still late to the ball and fouled him.
If you make a no-call there, Chesapeake gets the ball on the side with 1.7 left and you're rewarding them for a clear foul.
It's a tough way to lose a game, but it happens. Chesapeake will move on and continue to have a great season and will get many, many good things out of this game.
It was a foul. I know that. But he just ran into him. It wasn't a shove, and it wasn't an elbow. If the game had been officiated differently, I would have been alright with the call. But with an entire game of no calls, I'm not alright with it. Players got away with pushing off, shoving, etc. the whole time that was much more deliberate than that last foul. If it's not a foul at the beginning, it shouldn't be a foul at the end. One that really sticks out to me was when a Chesapeake player (can't remember who) was guarding the point guard as he brought the ball up the court, and the pg shoved the defender so hard he hit the floor. And he didn't just lose his balance, either; he fell hard. No call.
That being said, it's a terrible way to lose, but I was very impressed with the whole team last night. If someone's having an off night, there's always someone there to make up for it. I think this loss did much more for the Peake than beating someone by a ton. It's getting them ready for another long run in the postseason.
