Southeast District D4 Rankings 2-2-11

[grayjonathan42]

i have to agree i think the seeding will be fair especially with the close records in the soc 1 because each team will think they should be 2 or 3. but in the end i think the coaches will seed the tournament fairly because like you guys have said green was not a two seed last year

What makes you think they will seed the sectional fairly??? Oh, I see it will be fair as long as Whiteoak and Fairfield are #4 and #5 playing each other while if this was any other year Clay would be the #4 seed but wont this year probably just because of the above scenario? Or Manchester will somehow get passed by Green for the #2 seed (LOL) and will play Whiteoak or Fairfield to advance? That is fair as long as it helps an SOC 1 team advance to Districts I guess?

wait a second i never said where i think the teams will be placed so how can say i think it would be fair if whiteoak and fairfield are 4 and 5. I think south webster and manchester will be one and two followed by green or clay depending on which one plays webster better and then wins the last contest between them

my rankings are:
1.south webster ( if they beat green and clay)
2. Manchester
3.green
4.clay
5.whiteoak
6.fairfield
7.notre dame
8.newboston
9.east
10.western

if it was talent based no problem whiteoak and fairfield would probably be higher but its records and you are also forgetting that clay has a pretty talented team as well when they work together.

[Ironman92]

Any other year I'd bet Green and Clay over Fairfield/Whiteoak.....but not this year.

[halftime]

Clay scrimmaged Fairfield at the beginning of the year and beat them 3 out of 4 quarters. I think if Clay would rematch all the teams they played before they would beat them they lost to all DIII schools by 1-8 points not like they was blow outs and that was before they actually started playing as a team and was playing really good! I'm not saying they are gonna beat Webster but they sure are gonna give them a run for there money specially inside!

[heatfan]

halftime,

Way back when i used to play highschool basketball we scrimmaged the defending DIV I state champs. We also beat them 4 of 5 quarters. It went like this:

1st Q- They beat us 29-6
2nd Q- We won 15-13
3rdQ- We won 17-13
4th Q- We won 12-8
5th Q- We won 20-15

The difference in the wins and loses were as following, 1st Q they played there best 5. Next 4Q's- there best 5 left to play AAU...

Moral of the story, summer scrimmage means nothing come february

[What Time Is It?]

First of all, I believe clay and green will give webster a run if not beat them. How can you say farfield and whitoak should go ahead of clay and green when one of those teams is going to be soc champs. I think green only has 3 losses too. Clay did have a bad loss to new boston at home, but the next game new boston they could've beat green at green if it wasnt for the bad call on the buzzer beater. Dont get me wrong, whiteoak and fairfield are good teams but just because thier in the shl doesnt mean they're better than the soc teams. Because of scheduling there is no way to compare them except for when they meet up in the tournys.

[halftime]

halftime,

Way back when i used to play highschool basketball we scrimmaged the defending DIV I state champs. We also beat them 4 of 5 quarters. It went like this:

1st Q- They beat us 29-6
2nd Q- We won 15-13
3rdQ- We won 17-13
4th Q- We won 12-8
5th Q- We won 20-15

The difference in the wins and loses were as following, 1st Q they played there best 5. Next 4Q's- there best 5 left to play AAU...

Moral of the story, summer scrimmage means nothing come february

Ok. Clay didn't scrimmage them n the summer? They scrimmaged them when the season started towards the end of November. AAU is over by then so they had all there players there playing against Clay.

[fhs_shl11]

Clay scrimmaged Fairfield at the beginning of the year and beat them 3 out of 4 quarters. I think if Clay would rematch all the teams they played before they would beat them they lost to all DIII schools by 1-8 points not like they was blow outs and that was before they actually started playing as a team and was playing really good! I'm not saying they are gonna beat Webster but they sure are gonna give them a run for there money specially inside!

Were you at the scrimmage?
The reason why I ask is because if you were there, then hopefully you realized that Chris Cox, Cameron Rolark or Cody Ferrell did not play one second against Clay.(The top 3 scorers for Fairfield)
Also when i say one second, i honestly mean they did not play at all against them and Coach Carson did the same thing against Eastern Meigs.
Coincidence? Just think about it.
He did not want to show the top 3 scorers to teams he could possibly play in tourny.
Put Cox, Rolark or Ferrell in all 4 of those quarters. Then very likely the outcome would have changed.

[heatfan]

halftime,
I'm just stating some reasons for one team winning over another in a SCRIMMAGE. I dont know what players played, how much, or if at all. But it sounds like another person stated the facts for me. :122245

[jimmy chipwood]

Sparky (and anybody else on the inside),

Back to my original statement earlier on this thread. Why doesnt Fairfield and Whiteoak schedule some of the SOC 1 schools for non-conference games instead of playing D2's WCH, Miami Trace, McClain, Hillsboro, etc. I understand the whole "we need to be battle tested" but why not try to schedule 2 games a year against SOC 1 schools. A lot of teams (ex: North Adams) have learned that the way to make tourney runs is to get good seeds and have easier paths out to the Districts every year. To do this you have to win games! Whiteoak and Fairfield get tested enough with the SHL schedules they play every year.

[sinjinian]

Good point, but, all the SOC schools are a great distance away from Whiteoak and Fairfield and would not bring in near the revenue of schools that are closer and larger. Money plays a part in everything. If they are good enough, they'll get out of the sectional despite their seed.

[sparky]

some of the shl schools play a non league game against teams from the other division as this generates great crowds. i know whiteoak used to play lynchburg, north adams, and eastern brown in non league games and to handle the crowds they sometimes played at xu or southern state.

[svbt1112]

South Webster solidified their position tonight! SW 61 Burg 51

Have to go take care of business tomorrow night at Clay.

[Ironman92]

WO and Fairfield are much closer to those schools you mentioned. Fairfield to Portsmouth is a TRIP....Fairfield to Greenfield, HIlsboro, Miami Trace, WCH...all quite close.

[The Ghost of Swanker]

south webster handles Burg tonight. burg never had a lead in it

[jimmy chipwood]

WO and Fairfield are much closer to those schools you mentioned. Fairfield to Portsmouth is a TRIP....Fairfield to Greenfield, HIlsboro, Miami Trace, WCH...all quite close.

All I heard in December was how Admirable it was for New Boston to make the drive to Lynchburg Clay for two night to get beat by 30???

If it is all about money I didnt realize that WO/FF were such poor districts that they need the extra $1000 (from gate money) to play the WCH, MT, GM, and Hillsboro. Thats pretty sad if that is the case.

How hard would it be to schedule two SOC 1 schools to home/home contracts (1 home/1 away). That would break down to an average of 1 road game a year to the Porsmouth area. I think WO/FF could handle that! In the process they would have a chance to show the SOC 1 schools what level of ball they play.

Eastern Brown has done this over the years playing in different tip-offs, shootouts, tournaments, etc - this year they traveled to Zane Trace and Chesapeake to play (SED D3 teams). They have learned how to play the game and get credibiltiy in the SED. When they first made the move to the SED years ago they didnt play hardly anyone from the SED. Now, they have learned that to gain respect you have to play people from your district at least a couple of times a year.

[jimmy chipwood]

Some Big Weekend Scores

South Webster 61
Wheelersburg 51

South Webster 84
Clay 76

Fairfield 92
Adena 64

Manchester 68
Fairfield 67

Symmes Valley 76
Eastern Pike 65

Fort Frey 42
Waterford 29

Belpre 64
Racine Southern 59

Wahama 85
Trimble 69

North Adams W
Whiteoak

Eastern Meigs 62
Belpre 40

South Gallia 69
Federal Hocking 59

South Gallia 52
ISJ 50

Green 45
Notre Dame 41

[jimmy chipwood]

Big Tuesday Night Games

South Webster
Green

Trimble
Southern

[BlindWhiteHat]

St. Joe wins at New Boston 60-59.

[The Ghost of Swanker]

South Webster rolls Green. Sciotoville East tomorrow night. They are undefeated against D4 teams