The Logan D2 Sectional...

[hawkeyepierce]

...is a b...iatch! Is it time for a Super-sectional?

[bman]

Most of the D2 teams are in the western part of the district or northern part so that is why the sites have been moved more west and north. 12 of 18 - WCH, MT, Greenfield, Hillsboro, Waverly, Unioto, Chillicothe, Logan Elm, Circleville, Sheridan, New Lexington and Fairfield Union. 11 of the 18 are west of U.S. 23, 33 or north of 33. Jackson is also a half hour from the Southeastern site and Athens is about 30-40 minutes from the Logan site and Vinton is 30 minutes from the Logan site.

I agree it is an inconivence for the river area schools of Gallipolis, Marietta and Warren, but the diminishing population of southeast Ohio has dropped some river area schools like South Point, Meigs, Northwest, etc. to D3 which has also helped move the D2 sectionals west and north. This is why we've been getting only one to regional for most of the last 10 years.

Ideally, most Southeast tournaments should be based around Chillicothe and Athens to best serve the district, but Athens is already being used for a D3 sectional. And Logan's new facilities are going to get tournament games.

[bman]

It's funny how the Southeastern sectional was stronger for several years, but the balance has seemed to move to Logan over the last couple of years. Definitely some good basketball teams with Warren, LE, Sheridan, Marietta, Vinton and a team like Fairfield Union is dangerous.

[Excoach78]

A loaded sectional for sure. This will be a big week for most teams coming into the draw. You better bring your A game to Logan and still hope you SURVIVE!!!!!!!!!

[Longfellow Deeds]

I don't think it's right that the OHSAA only allows 2 teams to come out of this sectional. Unlike past years where they've allowed 4. Most of these teams are worthy of a district appearance and I think they should go back to an 8 team southeast district tournament and go on with 2 teams in the regionals, just like it was a few years back. The southeast district is one of the biggest if not the biggest district in the state for D2 teams. JMO.

[danicalifornia]

Yep, biggest by far, LOL.

Possibly most spread out, but that's the only place we win on this one.

[hawkeyepierce]

The question remains unanswered. That is, "Is it time for a super-sectional?" I know that the Cincinnati area has one and I believe the Central District uses one. Why not here?

[bman]

Logan Elm and Jackson were the two closest teams to Logan. Logan Elm is closer to Logan than Jackson is. Thus, why LE was sent to Logan.

[bman]

I favor the super sectional but the problem in the SE is travel. For example, say Hillsboro and Marietta play on a weeknight.

[bman]

In 2008 and 2009, each sectional sent four to district and two were sent to regional. Those years were SE vs. SE and E vs. E at regional. Pretty good two years for the SE as Chillicothe and LE both got to state, and Chilli won it all.

[mhs95_06]

What is a "supersectional"? Is that all 18 teams in one draw? If so, I don't see what good that does as the top two in each sectional cross over anyway, and if just one team is moving on to the regional in the end that should be good enough, as I would think that would be good enough if two teams were moving on.

[mhs95_06]

So there are 188 teams and 16 move on to regionals. That is an average of one team advancing for every 11.75 teams there are in D2. So if you take the number of D2 teams in each district and divide them by 11.75 you get:

Northeast- 48 -- 4.09
Southwest- 39 -- 3.32
Northwest- 34 -- 2.89
Central- 26 -- 2.21
East- 23 -- 1.96
SOUTHEAST- 18 -- 1.53

If you round each district off to the nearest whole number you get 4,3,3,2,2,2 = 16

Why not do it that way? Which district got more than their fair share? For better competition don't they want to try to have less repeaters? Wouldn't that mean they'd want to be sure to not short the weaker districts?

[vchoops]

I favor the super sectional but the problem in the SE is travel. For example, say Hillsboro and Marietta play on a weeknight.

I respect your opinion, but I think travel really isn't a strong argument against this. Right now Hillsboro and Marietta for instance still play on a weeknight. If Marietta had to go to Southeastern or Hillsboro had to go to Logan, its about a 45 minute extension. Keep in mind, half the teams are only going to travel once, and in D3 even the winning teams (outside of the play in games)only have to do it once before going to the Convo. That's not that big of deal in the big scheme of things to make sure that competitive balance is improved. In D3 you have a Jackson sectional that has 5 of the top 7 or 8 teams in the entire district all in the same sectional. I've talked to many coaches about this, and I've yet to find one that was against it. The district board needs to respect the coaches wishes on this, step up and make this change.

[bman]

The super sectional gives folks a better say of who they play and allows the better teams to advance further. You don't get a 14-6 team from sectional A get to districts while a 9-11 from sectional B gets to districts because sectional A is better than sectional B.

[Philos_Finest]

New Lex is a team that could surprise a higher seed. They have knocked off Tri-Valley this season.

[hawkeyepierce]

Lets start posting records for this sectional. Currently, Vinton County is 12-3.

[newlex/sheridan]

Sheridan is 14-2. Lost by two in overtime to Tri-Valley early in the year but returned the favor beating them @ TV by over 20 a week ago. They lost an early game by 2 to newark catholic despite leading the entire night, didn't play well and it was early. After the outstanding extended football season they had and adjusting to a new head coach they are really hitting their stride. They have a great combo of size and athleticism that will be hard for most teams to match. Have also defeated very talented John Glenn, and Maysville squads. Led Fairfield Union by 30 when they pulled their regulars with 5 min to go in late December. They will be a tough out come tourny time, having seen Warren, IMO, these are the best two teams in this sectional.

Other records:
Fairfield Union-8-8
New Lex-6-11 (they did beat Fairfield Union on the road, Nelsonville, and Tri-Valley. Dangerous early game)
Logan Elm-13-3

[EasternDspy]

1.Warren 15-1 2.Logan Elm 13-3 3.Sheridan 13-2 4.Marietta 12-5 5.Vinton County 12-3 6.Fairfield Union 8-8 7.Athens 6-11 8.Gaila 5-11 9.New Lex 6-9

[Longfellow Deeds]

I stand correct. Thanks for those numbers on each district. I just remembered in 2008 when Vinton County played Chillicothe in the regionals. I didn't realize how high the other numbers were. I would be a fan of a super sectional also. When is the drawing for Logan bracket anyway?

[EasternDspy]

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