Rules question...

[Ryanexpress]

Good explanantion.
Over and back rule would be good to explain also for the fans. Most don't understand it.

Everyone is missing the question....lol...

Over AND back....

[Hoppy]

Over and back

The player must first have ALL these three things in the front court first, the ball and both feet. That puts them in the front court. After that happens the offensive team can not be the last to touch the ball in the frontcourt and then be the first to touch it in the backcourt.

The call everyone doesn't understand is this play. Team A has the ball in their frontcourt. Player A 1 is passing the ball to his team member and it is first touched by a player from team B and then touches team A teammate and goes into the backcourt and team A player is the first to touch it in the backcourt. The rule/call is over and back because team A was the last to touch it in the frontcourt and first to touch it in the backcourt.

Please remember there is no over and back on a throw in.

[mhs95_06]

As Hoppy said jump ball. Also the 3 feet is side to side not back, the player who is throwing in the ball can back out to the parking lot if the wall doesn't stop him. There is no warning for reaching over the line and touching the ball it is an automatic technical. Don't confuse live ball dead ball with the clock running.

Is there a minimum distance behind the line that the inbounding player must have to inbound from that spot around the perimeter of the floor that if there is not that distance, they can be moved to a place where that distance is available? When there is only maybe a foot between the line and the bench players behind, that isn't enough room to really keep the whole ball behind the line while throwing it in. Can the spot be moved or the defneder asked to step back to give additional room?

[KingJames]

If you make a pass and it is tipped then you tip it into the backcourt it isn't over and back. Once the ball is tipped you mist regain possession before over and back can be called

[Hoppy]

KingJames,

You as the offensive team can not be the last to touch the ball in your frontcourt and then be the first to touch it in your backcourt. The tip by the defensive team means nothing if you are the last to touch it in your frontcourt and then the first to touch it in your backcourt.

[Hoppy]

Here is another play for everyone.

Player A one is in her/his frontcourt. He/she throws the ball to a team member who has jumped from team A's backourt and catches the ball when still in the air, over and back or not?

[footballfanatic1]

NOT..

[noreply66]

Here is another play for everyone.

Player A one is in her/his frontcourt. He/she throws the ball to a team member who has jumped from team A's backourt and catches the ball when still in the air, over and back or not?

If you can safe a ball from going out with being in the air--wouldn't this be about the same

[blockcharge]

md We do move the spot to get the needed distance most of the time. You very rarely see the ball taken out in front of the scorer's table which is on the floor. We will instruct the defense to move back if we are trapped, but i haven't had to do this for a long long time becausr most of the gyms now have enough room for the thrower in. Now back in the day, and in a few of the older gyms now, you had the restraining line to give you room. If a gym today has a restraining line no matter how much room you have you,by rule, have to play the restraining line.

Hoppy I know! I Know!

[noreply66]

The ball is in play but at the disposal of the out of bounds player? This player has 5 seconds to initiate a play making all players eligible to participate. Same as fout shot. 10 seconds and no one can enter the lane or interfere with the free throw until the shooter initiates the play. Obviously a judgement call by the official as a lot of calls are. I will not bet my SSA on it but I think a ref seeing the ball being grabbed by a defensive player while it is still in the hands of the player out of bounds will give a warning for encroachment. Not certified IMO.

In most Gyms, the player throwing the ball in has plenty of room between the inbounds line and the wall behind them.If this is the case the player that is doing the guarding is allowed to be at the inbounds line and would have the right to grag the ball if the inbounds player extends the ball in play. In gyms where they don't have three feet [or they allow people to stand in this area] the ref has the right to demand the player in play to stand back. So it could go either way, depending on the room the player thats inbounding has.

[yellowjacket]

[quote="Hoppy"]Here is another play for everyone.

Player A one is in her/his frontcourt. He/she throws the ball to a team member who has jumped from team A's backourt and catches the ball when still in the air, over and back or not?[/quo
yes this is over and back.you have to establish yourself in the frontcourt by having both feet on the frontcourt.back to the taking the ball out of bounds if it is a jump ball what is the call if the thrower in and a offensive player touches it at the same time,like a handoff?

[FeetballRef]

Here is another play for everyone.

Player A one is in her/his frontcourt. He/she throws the ball to a team member who has jumped from team A's backourt and catches the ball when still in the air, over and back or not?[/quo
yes this is over and back.you have to establish yourself in the frontcourt by having both feet on the frontcourt.back to the taking the ball out of bounds if it is a jump ball what is the call if the thrower in and a offensive player touches it at the same time,like a handoff?

Please be careful. Both feet and the ball in the front court only applies when dribbling the ball. For a player to establish front court status while not dribbling the ball, involves touching the front court with a hand or foot while no other part of the body is in contact with the backcourt. It doesn't require both feet in the front court.

The same applies to a player returning from out-of-bounds, only 1 foot is required as long as no other part of the body is touching that floor, pillar, support, of wall out of bounds...

[clevelandbrowns#1]

md2020,
There is no do-overs!!! Good explanation by Hoppy and Blockcharge!! It is a jumpball when a player reaches the ball over the line on a throw in and a player grabs it from another team!!! What happens when a player grabs the ball from the same team??? This is a violation on the offensive team, ball to the defensive team. If the defensive team touches the ball as it is released from the (thrower inner) before it crosses the line -warning on the defensive team-If rule is broken a second time then -technical foul, 2 shots and ball taken out by the non offending team @ point of interruption. If defensive team touches the ball while it is @ the disposal of the (thrower inner), by breaking the line then a technical foul is to be called and the ball will be given back to the offensive team @ the point of interruption!!
I had the over and back in my game Tuesday night @ Leesburg vs Hillsboro. Leesburg had the ball in front court and then was trapped, a player from Leesburg leaves the backcourt in the air and catches the ball before he returns to the floor in the frontcourt-Violation (OVER and BACK)
All of you who complain at us, do you see how quick we have to make calls like the situation above??? Yes, we do miss some but not as many as you think we do!!! Know the rules before you scream at us about something that you don't 100% know for sure!!!

[KingJames]

Hoppy you must have possession in your frontcourt in order to have an over and back called. If the ball is tipped in your frontcourt by the defender you must regain control in your frontcourt prior to going into the backcourt for over and back to be called. If the ball is just tipped by you after being tipped by the defender the there is no over and back

[yellowjacket]

md2020,
There is no do-overs!!! Good explanation by Hoppy and Blockcharge!! It is a jumpball when a player reaches the ball over the line on a throw in and a player grabs it from another team!!! What happens when a player grabs the ball from the same team??? This is a violation on the offensive team, ball to the defensive team. If the defensive team touches the ball as it is released from the (thrower inner) before it crosses the line -warning on the defensive team-If rule is broken a second time then -technical foul, 2 shots and ball taken out by the non offending team @ point of interruption. If defensive team touches the ball while it is @ the disposal of the (thrower inner), by breaking the line then a technical foul is to be called and the ball will be given back to the offensive team @ the point of interruption!!
I had the over and back in my game Tuesday night @ Leesburg vs Hillsboro. Leesburg had the ball in front court and then was trapped, a player from Leesburg leaves the backcourt in the air and catches the ball before he returns to the floor in the frontcourt-Violation (OVER and BACK)
All of you who complain at us, do you see how quick we have to make calls like the situation above??? Yes, we do miss some but not as many as you think we do!!! Know the rules before you scream at us about something that you don't 100% know for sure!!!

what is the call if the same team touches the ball when taking the ball out.if it is a jump ball if a defensive player touches the ball it you cant say that because both offensive players touch the ball that it is a violation.out of bounds is out of bounds it doesnt matter if your are on offense or defense.

[RoadMan]

King James, be mindful of the term "team possession"...it comes into play in the situation you are talking about.

Which team was in control before the tip? Which team was in control after the tip? Does a tip indicate possession?

Hoppy, ClevelandBrowns#1 and Blockcharge have all provided correct information to you, information that is found in black and white, yet you continue to question whether or not it is true?

Just my .02

RoadMan

[clevelandbrowns#1]

Road Man,
Some people just won't listen. You give them the rule and they argue about the rule!!! we never win!!

[Ryanexpress]

Wow, didn't expect this much repsonse from one rules question...All though very interesting to read the fans & the officials in put on the rules topics...

I will say as stated above; Hoppy, ClevelandBrowns#1 and Blockcharge, I would not hesitate to go to any of these 3 with rules questions & be confident in their oppinion...They all know the game & what they are adding to this thread is all correct straight from the book...

[mhs95_06]

md We do move the spot to get the needed distance most of the time. You very rarely see the ball taken out in front of the scorer's table which is on the floor. We will instruct the defense to move back if we are trapped, but i haven't had to do this for a long long time becausr most of the gyms now have enough room for the thrower in. Now back in the day, and in a few of the older gyms now, you had the restraining line to give you room. If a gym today has a restraining line no matter how much room you have you,by rule, have to play the restraining line.

Hoppy I know! I Know!

In those gyms with a restraining line can an offensive player receive a pass when in between the OB line and the restraining line without penalty?

[KingJames]

You are not allowed