Sat. Sectional Finals Updates and Final Scores

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Great job SHL 4 for 4 on Saturday at Valley


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ManitouDan wrote:really really hard to justify that score. May the basketball gods cast bad karma upon that team.

Was thinking of any possible scenario where that would be justified and just can't imagine it. say chilli starts 5 freshman. say r-burg has a roster of 8 upper class thourghobreds. You instruct the girls not to steal the ball, pack tight in a zone on D. On O you tell them to pass it around a bunch before shooting. then the score doesn't get so out of hand.
I agree. Getting blown out is a part of any level of athletics but without a shot clock there is NEVER any reason for a score to look like this. This humiliates and humiliation is different than a "good ol fashion butt kicking" Nothing positive comes out of something like this.


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First reaction to Reynoldsburg 94 Chillichothe 5 was Chilli must really be bad and Reynoldsburg must really be good. This is true obviously. Quickly followed by empathy for Chilli. Leaving the jym I would much prefer to be wearing a Chillicothe shirt then a Reynoldsburg shirt. I would hope something positive could be gleamed by those girls involved.


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I'm a parent of a Chillicothe player. I defended Marietta when they beat us 73-7 on their home court. The Marietta staff did the best you can do rotating everyone and trying to limit your offense without telling your kids "not to play".

Reynoldsburg, the #1 team in the state and Chilli in D-1 by 6 girls. Chilli has a "program" befitting of a D-4 school. So it was a recipe for disaster set in place a few years back.

Reynoldsburg came out like a #1 team. Their press would not allow or girls to hardly inbound the ball. They would steal it at will and lay it up. The first quarter score 35 to 2. Now, after that, the Reynoldsburg coach did do a great job of playing everyone. Their best players (including their 6'2 freshman verbally committed to Mich St) played less than 15 minutes of game time. Chillicothe was missing 2 of their 5 starters and the coach played EVERY kid also, even the JV kids. Reynoldsburg was DEEP and their bench was also THAT GOOD.

The only negative thing in my opinion was the one lady referee who we found out later was "being evaluated" as she put on quite a show. The two men (Craig and Gerald) had 23 and 40 years experience and it showed on the court. Krista Jenkins with her whole 8 years experience decides to call a technical on one of our freshman when we are down about 60 to 2. As Reynoldsburg went in for another easy layup, our freshman yelled, "shot" just as has been done a thousand times in games this season. Yep, we are down over 60 points and we get a "T" for that! She also was quick to call us on 5 seconds and other infractions that don't have to be called in a 90 point game. Needless to say the Chilli fans rode her hard, on the border of being tossed! I'd just like to say thanks to Craig and Gerald who did all they could to try to keep the game from getting worse and I hope Jenkins' evaluation was bad enough to keep her from officiating anything but polo.

Now I will be following Ironton's Lady Tigers! Go get em Nikki and the Lady Tigers! See you in Waverly.


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sprinter14 wrote:I'm a parent of a Chillicothe player. I defended Marietta when they beat us 73-7 on their home court. The Marietta staff did the best you can do rotating everyone and trying to limit your offense without telling your kids "not to play".

Reynoldsburg, the #1 team in the state and Chilli in D-1 by 6 girls. Chilli has a "program" befitting of a D-4 school. So it was a recipe for disaster set in place a few years back.

Reynoldsburg came out like a #1 team. Their press would not allow or girls to hardly inbound the ball. They would steal it at will and lay it up. The first quarter score 35 to 2. Now, after that, the Reynoldsburg coach did do a great job of playing everyone. Their best players (including their 6'2 freshman verbally committed to Mich St) played less than 15 minutes of game time. Chillicothe was missing 2 of their 5 starters and the coach played EVERY kid also, even the JV kids. Reynoldsburg was DEEP and their bench was also THAT GOOD.

The only negative thing in my opinion was the one lady referee who we found out later was "being evaluated" as she put on quite a show. The two men (Craig and Gerald) had 23 and 40 years experience and it showed on the court. Krista Jenkins with her whole 8 years experience decides to call a technical on one of our freshman when we are down about 60 to 2. As Reynoldsburg went in for another easy layup, our freshman yelled, "shot" just as has been done a thousand times in games this season. Yep, we are down over 60 points and we get a "T" for that! She also was quick to call us on 5 seconds and other infractions that don't have to be called in a 90 point game. Needless to say the Chilli fans rode her hard, on the border of being tossed! I'd just like to say thanks to Craig and Gerald who did all they could to try to keep the game from getting worse and I hope Jenkins' evaluation was bad enough to keep her from officiating anything but polo.

Now I will be following Ironton's Lady Tigers! Go get em Nikki and the Lady Tigers! See you in Waverly.
As stated above by myself and a couple other posters this could have been prevented by proper coaching techniques.Maybe a 40 point mercy rule should be put in.


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I think it was Florida that implemented a "rolling clock" in the second half if the halftime score was really lopsided. I believe we would have qualified for that down 48-2 at half if my memory is correct.

I think that should be implemented in Ohio as well. Especially if both coaches agreed to it.


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That might even be a better idea.Tell your daughter to keep her head up.That had to have been painful to go though and witness.


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sprinter14...i have total respect for you for not blaming the Reynoldsburg coach like so many of the posts on here by people who , probably, wasn't even at the game. so many people want to crucify a coach when there is a blowout without knowing any facts...this drives me nuts!! now if he left starters in, that's a different story but by the way you described it, the coach didn't run-up the score. you can't tell the reserve players to go in the game and not play, that's ridiculous, they put in the time and committment like the starters and shouldn't be handtied just so someones feelings don't get hurt. that's what's wrong with society today, everyone wants to feel good and make sure everyone gets a trophy without earning it. in the real world it's not like that and maybe being blownout will teach a lesson too and make a player practice harder and improve so it doesn't happen again. sorry to ramble on but when i was a victim of a blowout (lost a bball game by 60 in hs) my parents didn't say " that other coach is so mean for beating you by that much", my parents said "you guys need more practice to correct mistakes and get better". i'd be more embarrassed if the other team just stood there and did nothing instead of playing.
now, that ref is absolutely ridiculous!! i'm with you, i hope she gets a bad eval.


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ok, slim jim..what coaching techniques are you talking about? if the coach played everyone then what are you talking about?


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mray --so you disagree with the coach telling the players to work the ball on O before taking a shot and telling them to set back tight in a zone with a 50-4 lead ?


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There is no shot clock in high school ball.Run the offense like MD said...You could do a lot of things to prevent this from being anywhere near as bad as it was...


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Slim Jim and mray, thanks for the kind words. My daughter is a freshman JV player. The JV actually went 3-13 this season and showed a lot of improvement. She wasn't too torn up over the ordeal. I hated it for our 3 varsity starters who had played all year and were left with the insurmountable task and without our center and a forward.

I didn't mean to start an arguement and you are BOTH correct. Slim jim is right, there are ways to coach that will help keep this from happening BUT after the first quarter, I think Reynoldsburg did indeed TRY to limit their scoring somewhat. They could have done more! BUT, they also could have beaten us 200-5 if they wanted to. In the 3rd and 4th quarter, I noticed Reynoldsburg passing the ball a LOT more with open shots. Obviously they had been instructed to pass more and shoot less.

I think the OHSAA needs to adopt a rule that if there is a 30 point margin at halftime, and both coaches agree, a rolling clock is implemented in the second half. If there is a 40 point or more margin at half, automatic rolling clock in second half.

Thanks to everyone for their support and well wishes. We had a rough season and I posted in a few other threads about our losses. I recieved several PM's from people telling me their stories and/or wishing us well. There is light at the end of the tunnel as our 6th, 7th, and 8th grade teams are VERY good. Thanks to you all and good luck to area teams still playing.

GO SEOAL!!


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Educate me: So how did the#1 seed, #1 team in the state end up playing an 0-20 team. No bye in the tourney?? Pick um?? And they did hold the score down in the second half scoring only 46 points to 48 in the first half. I know it is what it is. Just what is it?


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TRUST ME IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH WORSE......SHORTENING THE LAST HALF WOULD HAVE BEEN MY CHOICE......


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I don't argue a bit that it could have been a lot worse , I argue it also could have been a bit better. You have to put up quite a few shots to score near 50 in a half. That is not "working the ball around"


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I'm probably the only person posting on this thread who was there to witness this. Trust me, Manitou Dan is correct in that it could have been worse if they wanted to be jerks, but it could have been better.

Yes, they scored almost the same number of points in the second half, but it was primarily their bench against our bench. Their bench was varsity 2nd stringers. Chilli's bench includes 3 freshman because we ONLY HAVE 13 girls TOTAL playing basketball. Refer to my earlier post about Chilli's "program" (or lack thereof) for girls.

Most D-1 school's have freshman girls teams. But no, our only 4 freshman (one starts varsity) all played #1 Reynoldsburg instead of playing on their level because we lack numbers.

Finally, to answer md20 question, D-1 is SCREWED up. They seed all 80+ teams in the central district. Then starting with #1 you PICK your spot. Nobody wanted Reynoldsburg and we got last choice. Yep, there were buys, and Reynoldsburg didn't want one. If done like the other divisions, we SHOULD have gotten a play in game with another struggling school, but D-1 is as screwed up as can be. Hope we are back in D-2 next year!!!


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thanks for your input sprinter, best of luck next season.


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footballfanatic1 wrote:TRUST ME IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH WORSE......SHORTENING THE LAST HALF WOULD HAVE BEEN MY CHOICE......
How in God's name could it have been any worse? They nearly lost by a 100 as it was...


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