#1 Peebles vs. #4 Wheelersburg, 3/6 District Semi-Final

[warrior 89]

I haven't even read all seven pages of this topic but here's the bottom line Peebles did not play like Peebles, how many uncontested layups/bunnies can you miss by your starters and expect to win? I'm not disrespecting them I am a fan of the SHL, I'm just simply saying that would have turned the outcome of this matchup around by double digits. Congrats to the Indians on a good season!

[da burg_07]

I cant see how you can say burg is more physical when the foul count was 24 to 6.I think #15 might have been taking the bus to Court Street when he Jordan-like tried to cup the ball and took 4 NBA steps twice in the last 3 minutes of the game especially in the last 15 seconds.That call has to be made.The Burg fans can say what you want,it was a blown call.I am starting to question what it takes to get your high school officiating liscense.The same ref officiated the Portsmouth vs S.P. game last week and he doesn't have a clue.

If you are going to talk about #15 taking an extra step, also mention the fact he was getting pushed and hacked. What about #14 getting shoved onto the scorers table in the first half with no call? What about Stegman going up for a right handed layup and getting pushed completely under the basket and somehow still making a reverse with no call..... There were plenty of chances for the refs to make more calls, but as mentioned above, they wanted the players to decide the outcome of the game. While I do believe Justice is a great player, the best TEAM with the best coach won the game. I would almost bet that drrabbit has pictures to back up the examples I mentioned.

I agree. To me this was not much of an upset, though it could have went either way. I can't believe nobody has mentioned how well we defended Justice. Everybody is acting like he had a great game, but didn't I read he shot 10-28 from the floor? Sure he scored a lot, but shooting it that many times and us holding him to 27 points was an accomplishment to me. We forced him to take pretty tough shots with yes, I'm going to say it again, our physical play.

[Rodeo1]

You have your thoughts.I have mine,but ;at the end of the day we are both just people pecking around on a keyboard with nothing else to do.Difference is I know this is all meaningless .The only thing that matters is the young men that we raise.

[The D]

You have your thoughts.I have mine,but ;at the end of the day we are both just people pecking around on a keyboard with nothing else to do.Difference is I know this is all meaningless .The only thing that matters is the young men that we raise.

I feel like pretty much everyone knows that this is meaningless and nothing will change the outcome of a game that has already been played, but am I going to sit there and let you say that missed calls and coaches decided this game? of course not...

[ticklethetwine]

Maybe so ,but;We will never know because the Danials kid was never given the chance to play much because of fouls.Arey and Daniels foul problems in the first half were the biggest difference in this game.Could have been alot different had Daniels been afforded the same luxuries as Stegman..Probably big difference had Stegmans fourth foul been called earlier as it should have been.A blow of the whistle here or there the other way and the talk would have been alot different.Your kids are class acts along with your coach and they deserve to crow.Revel in your glory now ,because ;after Your great coach Barrick calls it a day you will be back to square one.You just about lost him last year.

63 That sure is good cop out, if the Daniels and Arey had not been in foul trouble in the first half, it could have been different. Anyone who has watched any of there games know that they are in foul trouble a lot. You get that way, when you get bet off the dribble, always playing from behind your man, after you constantley get blown by. I did not see any ball pressure on the Burg. guards, to help prevent the ball from coming in. The center for Burg. was a real player, I do not feel anyone could have done any better on him, than Justice did. Of course, if he guarded Stegman the hole game he may have been worn out. I doubt it though, Justice if a fine player. Without he and Countryman, Peebles would have had very little scoring. Wheelersburg was the better team,better prepared, and better coached. Peebles had a very good club, but not good enough. My hat is off to them for their effort. Good luck to Wheelersburg as they continue tournament.

[rxburgfan]

if the "3's" are falling you better rebound. that's the nature of "that" game and it never changes. just ask duke.

[98jettakeoff]

What I really want to know is: did the Peebles team bus
driver ever get found? He/she was paged several times
during the Wellston-Chesapeake game. Was there
an issue with the individual? Were they ill? And if not,
did it create a problem back at Peebles?

[Rodeo1]

Battery in the hearing aid went bad.He's at home and fine.

[Out of Bounds]

I cant see how you can say burg is more physical when the foul count was 24 to 6.I think #15 might have been taking the bus to Court Street when he Jordan-like tried to cup the ball and took 4 NBA steps twice in the last 3 minutes of the game especially in the last 15 seconds.That call has to be made.The Burg fans can say what you want,it was a blown call.I am starting to question what it takes to get your high school officiating liscense.The same ref officiated the Portsmouth vs S.P. game last week and he doesn't have a clue.

Fouling doesn't constitute being physical. Usually fouling is a sign of getting beat and being out of position. Peebles let Burg get in the lane at will in the first half. Then when the double team came, they didn't have good box out responsibility and got beat on the boards. That's usually an effort thing. Barrick's kids out hustled and played stronger and more fundamental the whole game. Peebles played like they have all year. No big deal when they give up a lay up. They will out score you. Well they didn't hit enough three's to out score the Pirates and the season is over.

[da burg_07]

I haven't even read all seven pages of this topic but here's the bottom line Peebles did not play like Peebles, how many uncontested layups/bunnies can you miss by your starters and expect to win? I'm not disrespecting them I am a fan of the SHL, I'm just simply saying that would have turned the outcome of this matchup around by double digits. Congrats to the Indians on a good season!

I'm sure Peebles didn't play their best, but perhaps its because you actually played a decent team. With the exception of maybe a couple games, you havn't played a quality team all year. Some of the credit at least should go to Barrick and the boys.

[slug]

I always make it a point ot catch a few of Peebles games each year. They for the most part have good teams. Their basketball tradition is fun to watch. But I will have to agree with Out of Bounds. Their lack of fundamentals got them beat. Hope they see that and work on that in the future. Nice season for Peebles, and congrats to Burg.

[Chieftan]

First of all, Congratulations on an incredible season for the Peebles Indians. Our community could not be prouder of the boys and the coaching staff and what they have accomplished this year.

The outcome of the game is not what we wanted or anticipated. We did not play to our true potential for a variety of reasons and in the end we came up short. I do not believe that Wheelersburg is a better team than Peebles, they are a very different team than Peebles.

There is no sense in debating back and forth with Burg fans, if we were in their shoes we would be gloating and saying the officials were fair and that our team was better....all the same rhetoric....not blaming them for that. They did come away with the win.

So hold your head up high Peebles Indians, no one can take away what you've accomplished for our little ole' town of 1800 people this season!!! We are proud fans!!

[yabbadabbadoo]

[quote="galaxie63"]Maybe so ,but;We will never know because the Danials kid was never given the chance to play much because of fouls.Arey and Daniels foul problems in the first half were the biggest difference in this game.Could have been alot different had Daniels been afforded the same luxuries as Stegman..Probably big difference had Stegmans fourth foul been called earlier as it should have been.A blow of the whistle here or there the other way and the talk would have been alot different.Your kids are class acts along with your coach and they deserve to crow.Revel in your glory now ,because ;after Your great coach Barrick calls it a day you will be back to square one.You just about lost him last year.[/quote]


Seriously!!!!! I believe that the coach before him did fine and the coach before him and so on......Don't get me wrong, he is a great coach. Man knows his stuff, but with the Burg being as an elite job that it is, they would bring someone in that could more than do the job and I'm sure Coach Barrick would tell you the same thing. Burg has always had the athletes which any coach will tell you just makes there job a little bit easier. I would venture to guess that Burg is more of a basketball school then a football school due to the number of times that basketball has made it to the final four. In my 35 some years of watching Burg basketball, there have been 4 head coaches. Mike Hughes, John Eaton, Mike Lovenguth and Tom Barrick with the last three having lead the Burg to 6 final fours and two state runner-ups. How many schools in the state can make that claim? None in Southeastern Ohio.

[popeyes]

With everyone talking about officials, coaching and players let us remember that Wheelersburg has been there before in big games. Not only in basketball but fb and baseball as well. They have that mentality that few teams in our area have. I believe that it is always good for a few points each game .The indians have had a great season and with Stegman the Burg can get to the regionals. Tournament play is kind to but one team per night and only ONE team at the end........

[The D]

Seriously!!!!! I believe that the coach before him did fine and the coach before him and so on......Don't get me wrong, he is a great coach. Man knows his stuff, but with the Burg being as an elite job that it is, they would bring someone in that could more than do the job and I'm sure Coach Barrick would tell you the same thing. Burg has always had the athletes which any coach will tell you just makes there job a little bit easier. I would venture to guess that Burg is more of a basketball school then a football school due to the number of times that basketball has made it to the final four. In my 35 some years of watching Burg basketball, there have been 4 head coaches. Mike Hughes, John Eaton, Mike Lovenguth and Tom Barrick with the last three having lead the Burg to 6 final fours and two state runner-ups. How many schools in the state can make that claim? None in Southeastern Ohio.

Absolutely...whenever TB decides that it is time to go, Burg will just get another great coach to fill his shoes...most likely being a current coach who knows how things go and will continue the Burg tradition and continue to win games...There will always be athletes, and they will continually strive for perfection, and they will win game after game for many years to come...

the better team won this game...I know that may be difficult to admit, but they did...peebles wasn't ready to play, so that means Burg was better prepared...peebles didn't get to show their true abilities because of foul trouble, so Burg is better at not getting beat off the dribble and does not resort to fouling when it happens...not to mention Stegman couldn't be stopped all night...

[rogue47]

As a nuetral observer, I thought the game was officiated pretty fairly. There were calls missed on both ends of the court. But if everyone from peebles is complaining about the missed traveling call at the end of the 4th on burg, then where was the traveling call on #24 from peebles in the 4th where you put the ball under is arm, took 2 and half steps, and then layed it in. Like I said, calls were missed on both ends

[Chieftan]

First of all the better team does not always get the win...in tournament anything can happen. You can't say Peebles didn't have a plan, I'm sure that Coach Arey and the Peebles players practiced and worked just as hard as Wheelersburg in preparing for the game. All we can do is comment on what we observed which was that Peebles did not perform to the best of their ability, nor execute the plan they needed to get the W.

Doesn't mean Burg is a better team, just means they executed their game plan better than Peebles on that given night. Lets not put burg on a pedastal, they still have to play some great teams before they can bring home the state title....gee whiz!!!!

Say what you will, Peebles played horrible and Burg barely took them into OT at the buzzer and only beat them by 5 ....its not like they beat Peebles by 20pts. Gimme a break! It was a tight game the entire time with Burg playing their level best, Stegman playing the best game he's played and Peebles playing the worst they've ever played....

[The D]

sure it seems like they don't play their best when they come up against a tough opponent like the Pirates...I am not saying they didn't have a plan, nor that they are a bad team, not at all...if you recall, from the start I called this as a win for the Pirates in OT and continued to say that it would be a close game...

I am simply saying that in this case, the best team did win...missed calls going both ways nullify each other, Burg dominating the boards, and executing fundamentals perfectly...not to mention showing up to play and pulling through in the clutch is a huge factor, especially when it comes to tournament play...they were the better team...

and who said ANYTHING about a state championship??? thats a looooong ways away pal...the Burg boys have a long road ahead of them, since the next, and most likely following two games after will be against teams that have previously beaten the Burg...they are just going to take it one game at a time, and whatever happens or wherever the road leads them they will give it their all and whatever happens happens

[Chieftan]

and who said ANYTHING about a state championship??? thats a looooong ways away pal...the Burg boys have a long road ahead of them, since the next, and most likely following two games after will be against teams that have previously beaten the Burg...they are just going to take it one game at a time, and whatever happens or wherever the road leads them they will give it their all and whatever happens happens

I was being facetious... state championship

[Burg_Grad_77]

Say what you will, Peebles played horrible and Burg barely took them into OT at the buzzer and only beat them by 5 ....its not like they beat Peebles by 20pts. Gimme a break! It was a tight game the entire time with Burg playing their level best, Stegman playing the best game he's played and Peebles playing the worst they've ever played....

And this was a Burg team that has struggled offensively all season long, especially with the outside shooting. And yet your coach didn't force them into a lot of outside shots and limit Stegmans touches and the Burg dominted the paint.

But on that same token, the Pirates play some of the best defense in southeastern Ohio and can make a team like Peebles play horrible so that wasn't a fluke that the Indians struggled. Coach Barrick is a defensive mastermind and that's a lot of the reason he wins a lot of games every year. Look at the scores over the past few years and you will see that the Burg rarely gets above 60 points in a game and most of their games are in the 35 to 50 point range. That's playing some good defense right there. They held a 2000+ point scorer to 27 points on 10/28 shooting and an explosive Peebles offense to 58 points, even with an extra 4 minutes of playing time.

And by the way, that wasn't Stegmans best game ever or the Burgs for that matter. But when you don't a person on your team that can handle Andy he will exploit that and make you pay and he did it all night long against the Indians no matter who was guarding him.