Chillicothe vs. John Glenn...D2 Regional Semifinal

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Lets not make this into a dumb debate over a choice that was already made. Jake picked Findlay because he can go in there right away and make contributions and have a chance to start.

As for who Jake played AAU for, I have no idea. I'm sure he played some in the spring but he was also the quarterback of the football team so I don't know how much he played AAU.


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Jakes dunk can be seen on this page..

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1749332647883


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Anyone have video of Maliks dunk? Heard it was pretty nice.


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I've looked for it but everyone I know there that was recording didn't get a good shot of it


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Haegan could play at a MAC school. Not OU because their backcourt IS loaded regardless of their record. They just have no frountcourt to speak of.

Congrats to the Muskies. Good luck next round. I think Hartley should win this game easily and would have said the same had the Cavs won but good luck none the less.

The Cavs came out and played the worst opening half I have ever seen them play last night. The effort was non existent and they didn't look like they even wanted to be there. I was proud of the way that they battled back and showed a lot of heart in the second half but the first half was an embarassment. I do want to commend Tyler Manion as he was, from an outside perspective in the stands, the only one who looked like he cared and wasn't just going through the motions in the first half. Good luck to all the Seniors in whatever you do from here on out. Underclassmen need to let this be motivation to get back here next year and advance even farther or at least meet your full potential and advance as far as possible.

I am kind of suprised I am the first one to bring this up and I hate doing it but... The Cavs fully deserved to be in the hole that they were in after the first half. They played uninspired and were lucky to be relatively in the game after halftime. The second half however was some of the worst officiating I have ever seen. Not saying it was good in the first half because that was one of the worst crews I have ever seen. Of the three refs, I had only seen one of them before and he is usually not that bad. He was the best of the bunch last night too. The other two refs(both blonde ones) were just plain terrible. I wouldn't want those two guys reffing my YMCA adult rec league games. Phanton traveling calls, guys getting thrown around and no call and then there being no contact at all and fouls being called. Very inconsistent and IMO it hurt the Cavs on several occassions and really kept them from being able to get back in the game. Also, I know the technical on Beverly was deserved but, none of the refs saw anthing happen and then they went to the scorer's table and asked what had happenned and then issued the T. It was definately deserved but you cannot give someone a foul if you dont see it happen regardless of what it looks like. Just sayin.

In the end the Cavs had a great season. I feel they are out too early because they came out lazy one time too many and that sucks but it doesnt take away from the rest of the year. Good luck to JG on Saturday.


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after watching the video of jakes dunk definitley not even close to the best dunk. Malik Jumps off to the side as he didnt I get posterized. Maybe it was a lot better in person I don't know but I saw a dunk earlier from london In the season it was an alley that he caught at his waist and threw down. It sounds like the same thing he did last night but only it wa
s a reverse dunk. Most if not all of london dunks are pretty exciting


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bschmee10 wrote:after watching the video of jakes dunk definitley not even close to the best dunk. Malik Jumps off to the side as he didnt I get posterized. Maybe it was a lot better in person I don't know but I saw a dunk earlier from london In the season it was an alley that he caught at his waist and threw down. It sounds like the same thing he did last night but only it wa
s a reverse dunk. Most if not all of london dunks are pretty exciting
Mr. Heagans dunk was nic though,imo,if Malik dont have 4 fouls that dunk might not have happened...still nic dunk though....now Maliks two hand REVERSE ALLEY OOP DUNK was probably the best dunk ive seen in a while,can you imagine 20 pounds to that frame? Oh well.....continued good luck to the Muskies.....GO Cavs...!


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would love to see a video of Malik's...and bvmv i'm with you that Malik didn't challenge like he usually does due to the 4 fouls, but who knows...Heagan might have thrown it down on him anyways...we'll never know. This was just the exclamation point and a great performance from Heagan.


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Maliks was a reverse and 35 was an in your face. When you lose you don't want to complain about the refs. The blonde spiked guy was sad. We should not have been in a place for it to matter. It was a an off night and that happens. It hurts not to see the Cavs playing. Good kids and a class act all year. Should of Would of and Could of makes us crazy. Thanks for a great ride.


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Any hitchbone thoughts...?


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^^^^^

My whole post just got wiped out. 15 minutes of typing. Wow. I will regroup and post tomorrow. Had a lot on my mind, and it is lost in forum land.

Congrats to JG on the victory. Hated to see them lose a tough one today.

Congrats to our St Rt 23 neighbors as the Trojans move on to the State.

I'll be back...


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It has been almost 4 full days since my beloved Cavs season came to a screeching halt. Unfortunately all of my comments were blown away in the twinkling of an internet outage a few days ago. I cannot re-create my thoughts, but I will list a few of my bullet points I can remember. I traditionally do a Cavs Season in Review and that will come after the State Championships are determined.

1) Congrats to John Glenn and their hard fought victory last Thursday night at the Convo. The final outcome showed a healthy point differential (and it was), but I believe that both teams left everything they had on the floor. It is to bad that JG season ended Saturday in overtime to Bishop Hartley. I like to see the Public Schools fair well at tourney time, but than again that is another topic/thread.

2) Great to meet excoach78. It is always wonderful to meet guys like trojandave, bigdowgg, gahs4ever and so many others. My goal in forum life is to get to meet the legendary pfloyd. excoach and I meet a few years back down at Warren. He was a gentleman and extremely knowledgeable about the game. Know after meeting "excoach78" I can understand why I agree with many of his post.

3) As for the game....There were various reasons Chilly lost (or JG won) the game, but IMO, it comes down to the basics of Basketball. First....The saying is Offensive wins games, but defense wins championships is true, however, as Coach Kellough says, at Regional Tournament time, you better put the ball in the hole or you will go home. As simple as that sounds, you cannot shot under 30% and win a game against a tough opponent.

4) Second...It was stated in forums and in the papers that JG dominated the board battle. That is true, but that is very deceiving in how. The Defensive boards are real easy to explain, simply because Chilly missed 41 shots. If you rebound 75% of those, you get 30 defense rebounds. The real issue was the Offensive Rebounds that JG got. The 2nd qtr which really spun the tale of the ball game, saw Chilly give up to many multiple shot possessions to JG. The first qtr was bad, but the 2nd qtr was terrible. With London in foul trouble, the Cavs struggled controlling the boards. Also, with Jake H. penatrating and drawing defenders, the backside offensive rebounding position was wide open. IMO, our guards have to drop and and help out on these boards.

5) Third...Jake Heagan had a solid game. Many will say that 30 and 12 is an outstanding game, but many of the points came late and from the foul line. He took many of the shots in the first two quarters that were not falling, but again with the offensive rebounds, JG was able to put the ball in the hole. IMO, JGs role players stepped up huge and made a big difference. They made shots and accounting for another 27 points.

6) Cavs Rotation....Clearly the Cavs rotation was hurt by the absence of Isaac Beverly in the 2nd half. Due to the unfortunate tecnical, the Cavs staff made the correct decision in not playing Issac the balance of the game. With a short bench all ready and Chilly relying on defensive pressure, we lost our best on ball defender, fastest defender, and probably best defensive hands player we have. This also hurt in the depth area (and foul trouble). Many have questioned what happened on the T and simply put a young man acted out of frustration at the wrong time and by knocking an object on the court was automatically (and correctly) given a technical. The tough part was that due to this being called a bench technical, Coach Kellough had to sit basically the whole second half.

7) Officiating of the Game...Before anyone says, I knew this was coming, please know that I have the utmost respect for officiating. This game was a case of "how the game was called". From the far reaches of the Convo, it is hard to see how the game is being officiated, but from the floor, it is very apparent, what is being allowed and what isn't. These officials allowed physical play to go on and I am not sure, the Cavs are that type of physical team. JG used this to their advantage and was wise to do so. We used it to our advantage in the second half as we aggressively turned over John Glenn (including Heagen) with our press and in your face defense. However, the JG kids have (or had) a unique way of playing with their lower bodies. Two pictures in the Chillicothe Gazette really demonstrated to me, what was happening and what Coach Kellough was asking the refs to watch. Simply put, the Cavs were longer and leaner, so JG instead of jumping with the Cavs (excluding Heagen) used their lower bodies to throw the Cavs off balance. Jalen Ragland was bumped many times as he drove to the lane. These were not fouls in a physical type game, but clearly threw off the rhythm of Ragland, Johnson and London when they were around the rim. The best shot may be of London skying high to get the ball only to have the JG player (#54 I believe) have his back to Malik and backing into him (like a boxout). Even though JG was called for numerous push in the backs, etc (which sometimes seemed like phantom calls, even from my perspective), they clearly played to how the game was being played. Again, I am not sure that Chilly is that type of team this year.

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/apps/ ... lleriespic

Pictures 6 and 22 above.

8) Cavs Individually - There is no Individual in TEAM and it is important to understand that while Ragland was struggling with his shot, the overall team shot poorly as well. IMO, this was the worst shooting performance I have seen a Gary Kellough coached team have in his 6 years with Chillicothe. We simply could not put the ball in the basket. I have heard numerous comments, about Jalen's off game and he would be the first to agree with that. However, if we shot 50% from the other players, we win the game.

9) Jake H. dunk was nasty. Not that he dunked over Malik, but more the athleticism that he shows. The kid has serious hops. Maliks reverse oop was nasty as well. However, this ole timer has seen many more that get me out of my seat, so those two don't make my top 20. Watching the likes of Mark Baker back in the late 80's jump over the head of a kid taking a charge and throwing it down at the UD arena bring back memories. Maybe Tregg Lee from Cleveland St. Joes or Greg Simpson from Lima Senior. Or maybe my all time Ohio dunker, Bill Walker (now New York Knicks) from North College Hill throwing down over Canton McKinley at the Schott.

10) Last but maybe the most important....Our program lost a tremendous mentor, coach, confident, supporter and friend in the passing of Craig Hitchens last April. The seniors on this team and in particularly our guards spend alot of time with Craig in the summers, fall and winter. I know how much he meant to these kids. IMO, our struggles in the ball handling area (and decision making) were a direct result of not hearing that constant teaching from Craig about limiting turnovers. In this game we turned the ball over 16 times without being pressured one bit. Our current staff is excellent, but replacing Craig will take years to do. In the back of my mind, I wanted to win a Regional Championship in Craig memory. We did not get it done and over this weekend, I realized that Craig would want the kids to win it for themselves and not for him. What he would want is the kids to leave it on the floor. Every ounce of energy, sweat and tears. I believe in my heart that the Cavs did that.

Therefore, in closing, the Cavs lost a game to John Glenn, but they really didn't lose, because the process of getting to the Regionals is much greater than getting there. The kids did there best, did not make shots and will have great memories to look back on.

Four Regionals in Five years (six overall) since Coach took over the program. Not bad for our school, community and county.

GO CAVS!!!


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that dunk still would have happened even if malik had 1 foul.....


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Thanks hitchbone....


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