All Ohio D-III

[stylepoints101]

i agree dancew/wolves . Farnsworth has tremedious upside and i feel extremely privaliged to have been able to watch him fro the past 4 years . as for monteroso , is he a good player ? is he fun to watch ? yes and yes . but is he the same kind of leader and does he have the same kind of grit as brett ? no and no . if you want to see a good matchup you should have been at the zanesville gusmacker last year when farnsworth's team went against Dylan Kaufman of Hiland's team and farnsworth won the game but a sudden death drive to the basket where he was fouled and he nailed a clutch foul shot . but back to the main point . if monteroso keeps working and becomes more of a leader and team player , he very will be a first teamer next year and he could play at the next level with farnsworth. Plus i will be at the North-South game in columbus to watch farnsworth and derosa from st.c (whom i have watched for the past 4 years ) . pretty sure heagan and gibson will be there too . in the stands , watching the game beside me.

[Frost]

You talk about a leader, Monteroso is the leader of the STC team, no questions asked. Gusmacker is 3 on 3 and does not mean anything. You keep saying if Monteroso keeps working he will play on the next level, there is no question around here that he will play on the next level, its going to be where does he want to play. Somebody mentioned that Farnworth was offered both basketball and baseball scholarships, it one or the other, D I cannot split basketball scholarships. Derosa who is Monteroso's teammate turned down the District 12 all start game to play in the north-south game, he does not have any scholarship offers. So playing in the north-south game doesn't mean you are getting a scholarship. Last nite I went to the espn.com recruiting base, Farnsworth is not listed, Monteroso has a grade of 81 and 2 stars right now. I don't think much more needs to be said.

[newlex/sheridan]

Fellas, I understand you getting accounts to promote a kid or are the kid or whatever. No biggie. Brett is a quality player but he in no way shape or form is as good as Heagen/Gibson/Burrell or Monteroso. And, in order to play in the north/south game you have to be nominated and selected by the coaches in your district. There is a north south game that combines d1/d2 and one that combines d3/d4. In district 12 the nominees were Heagen/Gibson/Israel/Crane. Only one of them gets to play, Heagen got the vote. In d3/d4 the nominees were farnsworth/fickiesen/ramsier/and a kid from st. clarisville. The st. clairsville kid won the vote. The only way brett is playing is if that player turned it down for one reason or another, which apparently he did. There were over 20 coaches there that voted on that honor and they chose a kid who was second best on his team to monteroso OVER Farnsworth. That should tell you something. Def not going to play D1 basketball on scholarship, maybe D2. I have never seen him play baseball so maybe he can do that there. Also, scoring points in all-star games means very little, nobody plays D in those.

[Charge]

I actually like the AP better than the coach's. I think the AP does try to somewhat go off of the player's stats. I realize it is impossible for someone in the media to see every kid play, so they rely on the media in other areas plus stats to make their selections. In the coach's pick, I have seen coaches nominate kids off their own team that doesn't have as good of stats as another player off their team. I have also seen a coach nominate one player for an all league honor and nominate a player that didn't make all league for all district. I think the AP does try to go more on stats. Bottom line, I wouldn't put a lot into either, if a player is good enough to play at the next level he will.

[jayhawkpimp021]

In my opinion I don't think burrell should even be mentioned among players of this status.. his game is no where near comparable to those of farnsworth's, heagen's, gibson's, and monteroso's I will admit gibson, farnsworth, heagen and monteroso are all around the same talent but also you have to notice that they are all different kinds of players.. If i'm looking for the all around best player I think you have to go with farnsworth.. he is the floor general for the zeps.. he can shoot, he passes well, his dribbling skills are heads and tails above most kids his age, and farnsworth looks much more mature than the other players on the floor when he is playing.. gibson is one heck of an athlete but still very raw with terrific upside.. heagen is by far the most dominating post player among these names but couldnt really take over a game if he absolutely had to.. monteroso would be the closest in comparison to farnsworth but i still dont think he has progressed enough to match farnsworths game all around.. and when it comes to scholarship talk we all know heagen took his full ride d2 to findlay.. and gibson decommitted from his previous full ride.. i havent heard anything about burrell period.. by the end of monteroso's junior year we will know where he stands among the group for scholarship offers but there's been alot of talk about where farnsworth is going because he's had multiple d1 scholarships that i know of, and already turned down findlay to play w heagen.. that woulda been nice though

[stylepoints101]

ok whatever . believe me , or dont believe me . i know that everything i have said are cold had facts . and i feel that its an embarrassment and a disgrace to this chat room that you people do not recognized what this kid has accomplished ! i have watched derosa for the past 4 years , seen basicly every st.c home game , and i would say that if my grandmother was 6'6 she could do most of the stuff derosa could . st.c is a good TEAM ! you win as a TEAM ! st.c won alot of games this season 21-3 was their record i think ? you could put a pee-wee player on the court with them and they would look a thousand times better than they really are . carlton is a very good point guard whom i think is more valuable to the st.c team than derosa . he makes the wheels go round for that team . if you look at farnsworth stats at the end of the season he averaged 16 shots per game and averaged 21.2 points per game . im no math major but thats not a bad percentage . but you all just wait , this fall around september -october just wait and see where farnswoth is . i know for a fact and it is common knowledge around here that brett has got multiple D1 offers for basketball and baseball . i sat behind kent state AND akron recruiters at the shenandoah v.s. frontier game . and i GUARANTEE that they werent there to see any one from frontier .... you people sit far away from this fire way out here at little shenandoah , but let me say , its alot hotter than you think .

[newlex/sheridan]

In my opinion I don't think burrell should even be mentioned among players of this status.. his game is no where near comparable to those of farnsworth's, heagen's, gibson's, and monteroso's I will admit gibson, farnsworth, heagen and monteroso are all around the same talent but also you have to notice that they are all different kinds of players.. If i'm looking for the all around best player I think you have to go with farnsworth.. he is the floor general for the zeps.. he can shoot, he passes well, his dribbling skills are heads and tails above most kids his age, and farnsworth looks much more mature than the other players on the floor when he is playing.. gibson is one heck of an athlete but still very raw with terrific upside.. heagen is by far the most dominating post player among these names but couldnt really take over a game if he absolutely had to.. monteroso would be the closest in comparison to farnsworth but i still dont think he has progressed enough to match farnsworths game all around.. and when it comes to scholarship talk we all know heagen took his full ride d2 to findlay.. and gibson decommitted from his previous full ride.. i havent heard anything about burrell period.. by the end of monteroso's junior year we will know where he stands among the group for scholarship offers but there's been alot of talk about where farnsworth is going because he's had multiple d1 scholarships that i know of, and already turned down findlay to play w heagen.. that woulda been nice though

Haha......I would ask Chillicothe if they think Mr. Heagan can take over a game. Or Carrolton, or even Bishop Hartley. Fyi, he is a guard, not a post. Calling gibson raw is laughable, he was a two time all state performer for one of the best programs in Ohio, he committed D1 Saturday to Albany with several other legit D1 offers. He will be playing there with former Zville standout Logan Aronhalt. He is a 6'1 point guard with range and a 36" vertical. His high school coach called him college ready, he might know a thing or two about talent, he has been to three final fours, put numerous kids in d1 and 2 schools and has a current NBA player who played for him by the name of Kevin Martin. Burrell was possibly the best player on the court in the district 12 game as he plays both ends. He has offers from several D2 schools at this point. Wheeling Jesuit, West Liberty and Walsh among others. There are very, very few scholarship offers available for next year, most are filled in the early signing period. It is 99.9% likely that even if Brett were going to get a D1 ride that it would be too late, they have already given these schollys away. Maybe he could walk on and earn one in the future. This is why Gibson had a difficult time, he was committed to Columbia but de-committed during season because they wanted him to go to a prep school for academic purposes. He sports a 3.2 gpa with a 22 act score but Columbia is an Ivy league school.

[stylepoints101]

i live in zanesville and i have honestly never heard of this burrell kid until i seen him at the D12 all star game . being in zanesville i have heard and seen alot of Gibson , and his is legit , but i do have to agree with jayhawk that he is still a little rough around the edges . he is more of a "street" type , 1 on 1 , kind of player . but no doubt in my mind that he is D1 material . at the next level , if he can get the right guidance , he could maybe transfer to a bigger D1 school , because from what i have seen of him he has as much potential as anyone i have ever seen .he is a tremedous player but can become ever better , that is the scary part . and as for farnsworth , he has multiple d1 offers on the table . i seen him after the North -South game talkin to some guys in kent state polos . and from other sources it seems to me be where he is leaning the most at the moment .

[newlex/sheridan]

Burrell was a Zanesville kid until Jr high, he moved to Columbus with his family and was an all-city/district performer at Beechcroft last year. He returned to Zanesville for his senior year. Great defender and athlete. Very good basketball player.

[stylepoints101]

wouldnt he have to sit out a year before he could play ?

[newlex/sheridan]

I would have thought that too but apparently there are loop holes in everything. Probably dealing with custody issues and such if I had to guess. There are ways around it. Also, I believe if you physically move in to the district and enroll the previous school year you can be cleared to play.

[stylepoints101]

ooh . i was under the impression that the only way you could transfer and not sit out a year was if you did it between your 8th grade and freshman year . but as you say there may be ways around it .

[Frost]

Whats happened with Brett Farnsworth? I heard that he has not decided what to do about going to college. Whats the word out of shenandoah?

[stylepoints101]

i heard yesterday that he has offically signed with Kent state . i know for a fact that them and indiana state was the two he was deciding between . if its true it should be in the newspapers soon .

[jayhawkpimp021]

yeah i've heard that around farnsworth has been planning on signing d1 somewhere for basketball or baseball.. there's deff some truth in what stylepoints posted

[newlex/sheridan]

Is he playing baseball? I just checked the mens basketball page and it doesn't have him listed under those who have been signed or targeted. It has a list of players but Brett isn't on there.

[stylepoints101]

i dont know , last i heard he commited there for basketball ?

[Frost]

From what I have heard, he hasn't taken the test. Basketball signing is over from my understanding.

[stylepoints101]

i just heard from a close friend of the family and other sources that he commited there for basketball . if he keeps performing like he has on the baseball field , he might look somewhere else for baseball .