What's Giing on with Wahama and the TVC?

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Titletown TVC wrote:Say what you want.....the facts remain. Waterford, Fed Hocker, Southern, and Eastern are vehemently opposed to our continued membership. Belpre and South Gallia arent doing anything to support us staying. The smart money says Wahama is out. It is just a matter of time. The fun part will be now when the supers have to actually say why they want us out. If it were up to me, we would get out of the WFCIO.

The TVC Hocking might be the WFCIO, but the TVC Hocking would be the BEST FCIWV if it were in West Virginia and composed of similarly small schools. I think all the Hocking schools would have winning records every year if they played 10 games against WV schools.


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The TVC would be an average conference in west virginny. But hey dont take my word for it.......schedule some of our best and see how bad you can beat them. i personally would love to watch NY make the trip to Williamstown or Wheeling central. What are you waiting for?


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Titletown TVC wrote:The TVC would be an average conference in west virginny. But hey dont take my word for it.......schedule some of our best and see how bad you can beat them. i personally would love to watch NY make the trip to Williamstown or Wheeling central. What are you waiting for?
Computer points ... Nelsonville-York gains nothing from playing such schools, including Wahama.


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excuses! Actually, beating a WV team with a solid record would be a playoff points cash cow........ IF you beat them. They key is playing a team with an enrollment similar to yours. Which means Athens couldn't dine on AA teams like they do in Ohio....... :roll:


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Yea, your right ... Nelsonville-York playing Wahama (a tiny DVI school) would be better than playing Logan (A DII school) ... I'm sure they will hurry up and try and make that switch tomorrow.

"AA" teams????

Yea, we use divisions here in Ohio. Are "AA" teams good? bad? In between? ... :mrgreen:


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Ooops. Didnt realize you were so football ignorant. AA is the midsize class in WV. Everyone in the Ohio would be AA except Athens. Therefore they would have to play AAA schools to compete against schools their enrollment size. Obviously Logan would be a better opponent for NY if they can win. My point is that its better for NY to play Williamstown or Wheeling Central or Wahama who will win 8 or 9 games than it is to play River Valley for example.


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Titletown,

I don't have a dog in this fight but man, you aren't making any friends in the TVC by what you have been saying on here. You might have actually swayed some of your supporters the other way. I wish the kids at Wahama the best!


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Yea, I know exactly what double-A is titletown; it was a joke man.


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93Bulldog wrote:Yea, I know exactly what double-A is titletown; it was a joke man.
I'm glad the rest of Wahama's fans aren't D-bags like our good buddy Titletown!


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93Bulldog wrote:Yea, your right ... Nelsonville-York playing Wahama (a tiny DVI school) would be better than playing Logan (A DII school) ... I'm sure they will hurry up and try and make that switch tomorrow.

"AA" teams????

Yea, we use divisions here in Ohio. Are "AA" teams good? bad? In between? ... :mrgreen:
NY received a lot more computer points by beating D6 Trimble and NC than they did by beating Logan last year. Just sayin...


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Once in a blue moon that happens MOTIVATOR.


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93Bulldog wrote:Once in a blue moon that happens MOTIVATOR.
It probably would have happened the year before as well. Also, when Logan does win 7 or 8 games NY would have a tall task of beating them. How many times has NY beaten Logan, 6 or 7 in the history of the series? But they routinely beat Trimble, who routinely wins 7, 8, or 9 games. So in the long run NY is better off scheduling Trimble, and other schools like them for playoff point purposes, simply due to the fact they are not going to beat Logan during seasons when Logan has a lot of wins, and thus playoff points to provide them.


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How has playing and beating D6 Trimble worked out for NY when it comes to playoff success?

Its a complicated process on who to schedule each year - one that can be argued over and over on here. There is a reason why a guy like Dave Boston Jr., who has been around the coaching and scheduling process for years, scheduled a team like Logan. There is a reason why Athens scheduled Warren, Gallipolis, Jackson & Watkins Memorial ... For any of us to think we know more about what coaches should do in terms of scheduling opponents is absurd - coaching is their life - they know what they're doing.

SINCE 2006:

Nelsonville-York ... 0-4 in the playoffs ... 6-0 vs Trimble.


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Back in the 1960s when I played HS football, Wahama was tough, and, far as I know, they remained good at football most years in the nearly-50 years since, so it's not as if the league didn't know they were letting a fox into the hen house. besides, we all know most sports run in cycles, even with great coaches. Sometimes there's a dearth of talent in some sports, and even in all sports on occasion.

I don't know enough about the situation to comment further, but I've been a Wahama booster for many years, except when we played them. And I didn't know they'd never won a WV football state title.


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93Bulldog wrote:How has playing and beating D6 Trimble worked out for NY when it comes to playoff success?

Its a complicated process on who to schedule each year - one that can be argued over and over on here. There is a reason why a guy like Dave Boston Jr., who has been around the coaching and scheduling process for years, scheduled a team like Logan. There is a reason why Athens scheduled Warren, Gallipolis, Jackson & Watkins Memorial ... For any of us to think we know more about what coaches should do in terms of scheduling opponents is absurd - coaching is their life - they know what they're doing.

SINCE 2006:

Nelsonville-York ... 0-4 in the playoffs ... 6-0 vs Trimble.
I have watched you on here for a few years now, and seen how you change your point, and the point of other people to suit your arguments or to keep from admitting that someone else may be correct about something. It is entertaining and somewhat comical to watch. I will address each of your arguments here:

I never claimed that playing Trimble, or NC would help prepare NY for the playoffs. Only that beating those teams provides much needed points to get in, and host a game. Much more than beating Logan did. After all, you have to get in first, or it doesn't matter how prepared you are. You made a sarcastic comment, toward another poster twisting what he was saying, about scheduling smaller schools rather than Logan, so I gave a reason why scheduling a smaller school who wins might be a better option. Apparently you are too closed minded to admit that someone else has a point, so you again try to change my point into something I had not intended it to be.

OBTW how did playing Logan work out for NY last year in preparing them for the playoffs? Supposedly one of the best groups of talent NY has ever had, and yet again a first round playoff loss. In fact, NY has never won a playoff game under Dave Boston Jr., even when they played teams such as Ironton, and St. Clairsville who were going to "prepare them for the playoffs." So maybe playing Trimble is not a reason for why they are seemingly not prepared for the playoffs. I make no claim that I know more about scheduling than anyone else. Only that the math proves that playing teams that win 7 to 9 games a season is a good thing for playoff points, even smaller schools, if you can beat them. And playing schools bigger than yours does no good unless you can beat them during seasons when they win some games. At least not for playoff points.

Nelsonville-York (Under Dave Boston Jr.) ... 0- 7 in the playoffs no matter who they have played in the regular season including Ironton, St Clairsville, Crooksville, Logan, Fairfield Union, Newark Catholic, Bishop Ready... All teams, like you said about Logan, that were going to "prepare them for the playoffs." No I know little about scheduling, but it seems this type of scheduling has done nothing to help coach Boston Jr. in playoff prep.


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If you 'knew for a fact' that the smaller team was going to win 7, 8 or 9 games ... great.

But who the heck knows what a team is going to do from year-to-year ... There is a difference (and gurantee) however when it comes to 1st level points - you beat a division II team (Logan) its gonna benefit you more than beating a division VI team ... Since the scheduling is done BEFORE the season; its really just a game of "risk vs reward."

But thanks for taking the time MOTIVATOR to make such a long post pointing out my character defects ... :mrgreen:


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We really don't have time to point ALL of your character flaws. What makes this country great are forums like this where people like me and motivator actually give your opinions the piddly amount of credence they deserve. You are a master at turning things around to fit your points. I bet the high school kids on here are really intimidated by your community college intellect. Nevertheless.........

Motivator made great points. For Nelsonville, it would be far better to schedule Trimble, Wahama, Williamstown, or Wheeling Central as opposed to Logan. If you were reading with comprehension 93Bullfrog, you would have seen his point about how beating a good Logan team is not likely to happen. If you want to impress us. Go back and show the record of Logan on the years NY actually won the game. Then look at the records of the above mentioned "small" schools. They ALWAYS have winning records. You can take their performance to the bank. Say what you want about where they play, but they do win games and thats what counts.


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Titletown TVC wrote:If you want to impress us. Go back and show the record of Logan on the years NY actually won the game.
I remember the '94 game. NY defeated Logan and Logan went on to win the SEOAL outright.


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What were the records that year? I bet that was a great game. Still, that puts at one occasion.


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I had planned to respond to 93 this morning as I was confident he would either miss my point, attempt to change my point, or both. However, Title Town gave a great response. The only thing he missed is that NY is not 6-0 against Trimble since 06. All of his other points were spot on. Further, 93, some times it takes a long winded post to ensure that some, like you, have no wiggle room to try to twist another posters point of view. :mrgreen:


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